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Velosnooze.com has an interesting read by M. Barry banning
radios. When reading it, it made me wonder how things might have been different, back in the day, if teams and riders could instantly know all about road and weather conditions, and how this might have affected Hampsten's win on the Gavia that day. |
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"Scott" wrote in message
... Velosnooze.com has an interesting read by M. Barry banning radios. When reading it, it made me wonder how things might have been different, back in the day, if teams and riders could instantly know all about road and weather conditions, and how this might have affected Hampsten's win on the Gavia that day. Huh? That's a win that would have been the least affected by knowledge of what was going on. |
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"Tom Kunich" wrote in message m... "Scott" wrote in message ... Velosnooze.com has an interesting read by M. Barry banning radios. When reading it, it made me wonder how things might have been different, back in the day, if teams and riders could instantly know all about road and weather conditions, and how this might have affected Hampsten's win on the Gavia that day. Huh? That's a win that would have been the least affected by knowledge of what was going on. OK, fine that you think that way, but could you elucidate on the reasons? I happen to agree; I think the biggest effect on race outcomes from a ban on radio would be breakaways that don't get caught with 2k to go, and I see more-dangerous conditions within the peloton as the domestiques are scrambling to get to team cars that might not be where they think they'd be resulting in considerable chaos and potentially more crashes. But specific to Hampsten's stage on the Gavia? When everyone is in survival mode, I'm not sure a radio is going to make much difference, but I'd like to hear other opinions. --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReactionBicycles.com |
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On Oct 4, 10:47*am, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote: "Tom Kunich" wrote in message m... "Scott" wrote in message .... Velosnooze.com has an interesting read by M. Barry banning radios. *When reading it, it made me wonder how things might have been different, back in the day, if teams and riders could instantly know all about road and weather conditions, and how this might have affected Hampsten's win on the Gavia that day. Huh? That's a win that would have been the least affected by knowledge of what was going on. OK, fine that you think that way, but could you elucidate on the reasons? I happen to agree; I think the biggest effect on race outcomes from a ban on radio would be breakaways that don't get caught with 2k to go, and I see more-dangerous conditions within the peloton as the domestiques are scrambling to get to team cars that might not be where they think they'd be resulting in considerable chaos and potentially more crashes. But specific to Hampsten's stage on the Gavia? When everyone is in survival mode, I'm not sure a radio is going to make much difference, but I'd like to hear other opinions. --Mike-- * * Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReactionBicycles.com Huh? That was a win? I thought "Hampsten winning on the Ggavia" was one of the classic RBR trolls. |
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Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
"Tom Kunich" wrote in message m... "Scott" wrote in message ... Velosnooze.com has an interesting read by M. Barry banning radios. When reading it, it made me wonder how things might have been different, back in the day, if teams and riders could instantly know all about road and weather conditions, and how this might have affected Hampsten's win on the Gavia that day. Huh? That's a win that would have been the least affected by knowledge of what was going on. OK, fine that you think that way, but could you elucidate on the reasons? I happen to agree; I think the biggest effect on race outcomes from a ban on radio would be breakaways that don't get caught with 2k to go, and I see more-dangerous conditions within the peloton as the domestiques are scrambling to get to team cars that might not be where they think they'd be resulting in considerable chaos and potentially more crashes. But specific to Hampsten's stage on the Gavia? When everyone is in survival mode, I'm not sure a radio is going to make much difference, but I'd like to hear other opinions. --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReactionBicycles.com Scott, you're far less understood than I thought. |
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Le 10/4/2009 11:47, Mike Jacoubowsky a bien réfléchi et puis a déclaré:
But specific to Hampsten's stage on the Gavia? When everyone is in survival mode, I'm not sure a radio is going to make much difference, but I'd like to hear other opinions. --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReactionBicycles.com Not the Gavia, but consider the Landis gallop - there would have been zero difference, as the car drowning and feeding him was next to him the entire way, and had full radio communication available. If any difference could be imagined, I think it would favor the escape group, which would have team cars at their elbows all the way. On the other hand, if the riders could only switch channels to satellite radio ...... -- Sandy Verneuil-sur-Seine FR -- S'endormir au volant, c'est très dangereux. S'endormir à vélo, c'est très rare. S'endormir à pied, c'est très con. - Geluck, P. |
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DirtRoadie wrote:
Huh? That was a win? I thought "Hampsten winning on the Ggavia" was one of the classic RBR trolls. If you repeat something often enough it becomes true. Ask Rumsfeld if you require further elucidation. |
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Scott wrote:
Velosnooze.com has an interesting read by M. Barry banning radios. When reading it, it made me wonder how things might have been different, back in the day, if teams and riders could instantly know all about road and weather conditions, and how this might have affected Hampsten's win on the Gavia that day. The opening made me think that pro bike racers are dumber than Cat 4 retards. One of his points is that removing radios makes the racing safer because riders are no smarter than sheep. Although he phrases it more charitably. Bob Schwartz |
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On Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:25:27 -0700 (PDT), Scott
wrote: Velosnooze.com has an interesting read by M. Barry banning radios. When reading it, it made me wonder how things might have been different, back in the day, if teams and riders could instantly know all about road and weather conditions, and how this might have affected Hampsten's win on the Gavia that day. Haha. From what I've read, 7-Eleven did have better race information about weather on that stage, and the road, than a lot of the opposition, due to efforts by Mike Neel and also help from an Italian old-time pro (Motta I think, but I might be wrong) who was very familiar with the climb and descent. |
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