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  #21  
Old May 13th 20, 04:08 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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On 13/05/2020 15:37, Simon Mason wrote:
On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 3:28:53 PM UTC+1, Pamela wrote:
On 15:20 13 May 2020, Simon Mason said:

On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 3:15:20 PM UTC+1, Pamela wrote:

This is the sort of trouble poor parents create. You can also see it
when their children grow up to become unruly teenagers.

They were both saying "please excuse me" very politely indeed.


It's a courtesy if the couple choose to stop walking to let through a
child who should have had stabiliser wheels and who was so unstable on her
bike that she promptly fell over when she slowed down ... but they do not
have an obligation.


Nobody is saying that they did, but they did not act as poor parents as you suggested.


Nobody suggested that.

The dog-walking victims were not the child's parents. That is absolutely
clear.
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Old May 13th 20, 04:09 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Pamela
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On 15:49 13 May 2020, Simon Mason said:
On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 3:47:20 PM UTC+1, Pamela wrote:

The dozy father captured on video the consequences of inadequate
parental supervision and then his equally dozy wife posts it to
Facebook. Oh my!


Yet the police are investigating the incident as foul language and
criminal damage.


Not according to your post which says:

Detective Superintendent Kev Broadhead said: "Nottinghamshire Police is
keen to speak to anyone who may have seen what happened or recognises
those in the footage so that officers can establish the circumstances
surrounding this incident."

Nothing there about language or damage. He also adds:

"As more people are walking and cycling in line with the government's
new guidance, we would encourage everyone to be aware of their
surroundings and to be considerate of other people using paths and
parks"

That would include cyclists harassing pedestrians.
  #23  
Old May 13th 20, 04:17 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Simon Mason wrote:
On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 3:36:52 PM UTC+1, Pamela wrote:

Not only that but the poor dog could be traumatised. The RSPCA
should investigate why the child was so out of control that she
startled the helpess animal. It's obvious the poor thing wouldn't
understand the father saying "excuse me".


The police are currently investigating the foul language and the
criminal damage to the child's vehicle, not the RSPCA.


Were you investigated when you chucked yourself off that bridge.
"Foul language" try not to be sissy.


  #24  
Old May 13th 20, 04:25 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Pamela
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On 15:28 13 May 2020, JNugent said:

On 13/05/2020 15:15, Pamela wrote:

On 13:13 13 May 2020, TMS320 said:
On 13/05/2020 12:24, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:


"Arrested"?!
The brat should not have been on the path in the first place, you
know that as well as I do.

"You can walk, jog, bike, cross-country ski or ride horseback on most
trails at Blackwell."


It doesn't say you are obliged to give way to poorly supervised
children. The child had poor control of her bike and after striking the
couple could have gone on to strike the dog who may have then
responded. Social services should investigate why the child wasn't
properly supervised.

This is the sort of trouble poor parents create. You can also see it
when their children grow up to become unruly teenagers...


...on bikes, and so "entitled".

Some of them go on to make usenet posts in support of law-breaking.


Could the father in the video also be riding a bike? He seems to be
travelling just a little bit too fast to keep up with the girl by walking.
Also his motion seems smoother than the paces of a pedestrian.

If so then he could have given an example to his daughter of dismounting
while they both went past the couple.

Instead he cycles one-handed, while filming with a smartphone held in his
other hand.
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Old May 13th 20, 04:33 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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On 13/05/2020 16:25, Pamela wrote:
On 15:28 13 May 2020, JNugent said:

On 13/05/2020 15:15, Pamela wrote:

On 13:13 13 May 2020, TMS320 said:
On 13/05/2020 12:24, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:


"Arrested"?!
The brat should not have been on the path in the first place, you
know that as well as I do.

"You can walk, jog, bike, cross-country ski or ride horseback on most
trails at Blackwell."

It doesn't say you are obliged to give way to poorly supervised
children. The child had poor control of her bike and after striking the
couple could have gone on to strike the dog who may have then
responded. Social services should investigate why the child wasn't
properly supervised.

This is the sort of trouble poor parents create. You can also see it
when their children grow up to become unruly teenagers...


...on bikes, and so "entitled".

Some of them go on to make usenet posts in support of law-breaking.


Could the father in the video also be riding a bike? He seems to be
travelling just a little bit too fast to keep up with the girl by walking.
Also his motion seems smoother than the paces of a pedestrian.

If so then he could have given an example to his daughter of dismounting
while they both went past the couple...


....and staying at least six feet away from them.

Instead he cycles one-handed, while filming with a smartphone held in his
other hand.


Are the local Social Services "investigating"?
  #26  
Old May 13th 20, 04:49 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Peter Parry
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On Wed, 13 May 2020 02:47:28 -0700 (PDT), Simon Mason
wrote:

He should get arrested for a public order offence (using the f word)


If that were to be done then 30 minutes on the local canal towpath
with the peleton shouting fraternal greetings at pedestrians in their
way would fill all the cells in London in no time.

  #27  
Old May 13th 20, 05:36 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 4:17:39 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 3:36:52 PM UTC+1, Pamela wrote:

Not only that but the poor dog could be traumatised. The RSPCA
should investigate why the child was so out of control that she
startled the helpess animal. It's obvious the poor thing wouldn't
understand the father saying "excuse me".


The police are currently investigating the foul language and the
criminal damage to the child's vehicle, not the RSPCA.


Were you investigated when you chucked yourself off that bridge.
"Foul language" try not to be sissy.


If you had a 6 year old child, would you like some thug saying 'so f***ing what' to her after he had kicked your child's bike? Sounds like a real nice chap.
  #28  
Old May 13th 20, 05:51 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Pamela
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On 17:36 13 May 2020, Simon Mason said:

On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 4:17:39 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 3:36:52 PM UTC+1, Pamela wrote:

Not only that but the poor dog could be traumatised. The RSPCA
should investigate why the child was so out of control that she
startled the helpess animal. It's obvious the poor thing wouldn't
understand the father saying "excuse me".

The police are currently investigating the foul language and the
criminal damage to the child's vehicle, not the RSPCA.


Were you investigated when you chucked yourself off that bridge.
"Foul language" try not to be sissy.


If you had a 6 year old child, would you like some thug saying 'so
f***ing what' to her after he had kicked your child's bike? Sounds like
a real nice chap.


If I had a six year old child I would make sure she could cycle safely and
could brake to avoid hitting an obstacle. She's only got to find she can't
maintain her speed and then would fall off.

Until she could cycle confidently I wouldn't let her loose on a path where
dogs and horses go.

The faultless couple walking their dog probably thought they had a scummy
parent on their hands and the man no doubt spoke to him in language the
father could understand.

A pound to a penny the couple don't get prosecuted. Not so sure though about
the dodgy father recklessly taking his daughter to potentially unsafe places
without sufficient supervision. The poor girl fell over because he was too
far away.
  #29  
Old May 13th 20, 05:55 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Pamela
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Default Man hurls abuse and kicks a youngster's cycle

On 16:49 13 May 2020, Peter Parry said:

On Wed, 13 May 2020 02:47:28 -0700 (PDT), Simon Mason
wrote:

He should get arrested for a public order offence (using the f word)


If that were to be done then 30 minutes on the local canal towpath
with the peleton shouting fraternal greetings at pedestrians in their
way would fill all the cells in London in no time.


In another setting:

it's strange how this father complains when other users of the path don't
give way to his daughter travelling faster behind them ... and yet on the
road cyclists will hog a whole lane without giving way to faster motorists
travelling behind them.

What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
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Old May 13th 20, 06:02 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Bod[_5_]
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Default Man hurls abuse and kicks a youngster's cycle

On 13/05/2020 16:17, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 3:36:52 PM UTC+1, Pamela wrote:

Not only that but the poor dog could be traumatised. The RSPCA
should investigate why the child was so out of control that she
startled the helpess animal. It's obvious the poor thing wouldn't
understand the father saying "excuse me".


The police are currently investigating the foul language and the
criminal damage to the child's vehicle, not the RSPCA.


Were you investigated when you chucked yourself off that bridge.
"Foul language" try not to be sissy.


Why do you stoop so low by constantly having a dig at Simon when he was
clearly in a depressed state at the time of the incident.
I'm sure he wants to put it all behind him.
Good luck to Simon for the future.
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Bod
 




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