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  #61  
Old May 15th 20, 08:54 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Madness: Driver almost hits oncoming vehicle while overtaking cyclist

On 15/05/2020 20:45, TMS320 wrote:

On 15/05/2020 16:24, Pamela wrote:
On 15:56Â* 15 May 2020, JNugent said:

Not only Simon. TMS320 uses traduction as his main tactic when he
reaches the bottom of his shallow barrel.


It must be frustrating when one runs out of argments and has to resort
to underhand methods.


Yes, it is frustrating to deal with Nugent's twisting and dishonesty.
And his use of meaningless big words.


And right on cue, here he comes with more traduction and falsehoods -
his stock in trade.
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Old May 15th 20, 08:56 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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On Friday, May 15, 2020 at 8:49:11 PM UTC+1, Kelly wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:

On Friday, May 15, 2020 at 8:01:03 PM UTC+1, Kelly wrote:

The mum says, "What an awful man. My daughter is traumatised. They
(i.e. the 'victim couple') clearly have an issue with cyclists and
were making a point of not moving."


Here is the potty mouthed chav and his scummy sour faced bint.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EX_tawzX...pg&name=medium


Hmm... I've been told not to be too judgmental - although it does look
like The Sun and social media have already made up their minds on how
they feel about this guy and his natural reactions.


If his "natural reaction" was to verbally abuse a six year old girl and kick her bicycle, then he deserves all he gets.
  #63  
Old May 15th 20, 09:45 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mr Pounder Esquire
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Default Madness: Driver almost hits oncoming vehicle while overtaking cyclist

Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, May 15, 2020 at 8:45:07 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:


I am surprised you and Nugent don't die of dehydration. I have no
doubt you would argue with someone offering you a glass of water.


Why do you think he has been in my killfile for 10 years?


Cowards use a killfile.


  #64  
Old May 15th 20, 09:54 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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Default Madness: Driver almost hits oncoming vehicle while overtaking cyclist

On Friday, May 15, 2020 at 9:45:15 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, May 15, 2020 at 8:45:07 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:


I am surprised you and Nugent don't die of dehydration. I have no
doubt you would argue with someone offering you a glass of water.


Why do you think he has been in my killfile for 10 years?


Cowards use a killfile.


It saves me reading tedious tripe that offers nothing to serious debate and is my right to employ as I wish.
  #65  
Old May 15th 20, 10:12 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mr Pounder Esquire
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Default Madness: Driver almost hits oncoming vehicle while overtaking cyclist

Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, May 15, 2020 at 9:45:15 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, May 15, 2020 at 8:45:07 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:


I am surprised you and Nugent don't die of dehydration. I have no
doubt you would argue with someone offering you a glass of water.

Why do you think he has been in my killfile for 10 years?


Cowards use a killfile.


It saves me reading tedious tripe that offers nothing to serious
debate and is my right to employ as I wish.


Then killfile me.
You only post boring **** anyway.


  #66  
Old May 15th 20, 10:14 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Pamela
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Default Madness: Driver almost hits oncoming vehicle while overtaking cyclist

On 20:45 15 May 2020, TMS320 said:

On 15/05/2020 16:24, Pamela wrote:
On 15:56 15 May 2020, JNugent said:

Not only Simon. TMS320 uses traduction as his main tactic when he
reaches the bottom of his shallow barrel.


It must be frustrating when one runs out of argments and has to
resort to underhand methods.


Yes, it is frustrating to deal with Nugent's twisting and dishonesty.
And his use of meaningless big words.

I suppose I must be grateful neither Simon nor TMS320 is in the same
room as me when this happens, else they might resort to violence to
win their argument in the way the lower orders often do.


I am surprised you and Nugent don't die of dehydration. I have no doubt
you would argue with someone offering you a glass of water.


Perhaps if you undertake not to quote dishonestly Nugent would forgive you,
although I can't guarantee it.

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Old May 15th 20, 10:15 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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On Friday, May 15, 2020 at 10:12:39 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, May 15, 2020 at 9:45:15 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, May 15, 2020 at 8:45:07 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:


I am surprised you and Nugent don't die of dehydration. I have no
doubt you would argue with someone offering you a glass of water.

Why do you think he has been in my killfile for 10 years?

Cowards use a killfile.


It saves me reading tedious tripe that offers nothing to serious
debate and is my right to employ as I wish.


Then killfile me.
You only post boring **** anyway.


Then killfile me.
  #68  
Old May 15th 20, 10:15 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Pamela
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On 17:39 15 May 2020, Simon Mason said:

On Friday, May 15, 2020 at 4:25:08 PM UTC+1, Pamela wrote:

I suppose I must be grateful neither Simon nor TMS320 is in the same
room as me when this happens, else they might resort to violence to win
their argument in the way the lower orders often do.


Your original assertion that a six year old girl was capable of
"harassing" a big ugly potty mouthed chav was worthy of the derision it
attracted.

I mean, just look at them!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EX_tawzX...pg&name=medium


They look frightened by the gobby chav's threats.
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Old May 15th 20, 10:20 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 20:01 15 May 2020, Kelly said:

JNugent wrote:

On 15/05/2020 14:35, Kelly wrote:
JNugent wrote:
For the Nth time: this is NOT normal times. The child should have
kept, by her parents, at least two metres away from those victims,
at all relevant times.

As far as I am aware, everybody in the whole group knows that. In
fact, in my very first reply to you in this thread I said: "...I
agree with you that current emergency regulations have been broken.
I think the police should at least remind the father of his
responsibility towards ensuring his daughter maintains social
distancing rules. Ironically, the police can see where the father
failed in that regard from the father's own video, something that he
and his wife brought to the attention of the police themselves."

So, what could be clearer than that?

This vital fact seems to be totally ignored. It should not be.

Eight posts from here up, in this thread, TMS320 says: "With the
benefit of 20:20 hindsight vision, perhaps it would have been better
had the father waited until the path was widened out a bit." to
which I replied, "That is it, really, in a nutshell." As in, yes,
it was the father's responsibility (not sure if the mother was
actually there) to keep his daughter two metres away from other
people - of course, it was, and we all know that.

Not a word of that is about the behaviour required as a result of
current problems.

Not if that is the way you choose to see it.


That HAS to be the only way to see such things at present.

Every word of it apply in normal circumstances.

Then I added: "...all those involved in the 'incident' will be that
little bit wiser in future." But it looks as though you don't think
the victim man has anything to learn from this incident.

What can he "learn"?

How about, if he had responded better everyone would have thought
better of him for being an obvious good guy? It's not obligatory, I
know, and can accept that too. Maybe he likes playing the bad guy. In
which case, having delivered a volley of verbal abuse, giving the
child's bike a good kick on departing was a clever move.


People have different personalities. Most people, whatever their natural
tendencies, will take exception to being run into by a bicycle. There
will almost certainly have been a certain ount of shock coming into
play. Don't be so judgmental of natural reactions. Be judgmental of
deliberate acts.

That a cyclist might run into him from behind on a footpath? That
some people - regrettably, including the parents of some small
children - will not behave responsibly?

He very possibly already knew that. After all, everyone else does.

Okay, I also wouldn't have thought either of those where something he
had to learn (they're, as you say, both possibilities that people are
aware of. Although I have, in fact, never been run into from behind on
a footpath... just lucky, I guess.)


There's little else that he and his companion could "learn" from the
incident.

Okay, that's
your view but I still think he could have responded better, even
under these abnormal circumstances. He didn't recoil from the child
in horror when she brushed up against him, as if in fear of being
exposed to a massive viral load of Corvid-19. He didn't stand back
from her at all, on the contrary, he held his ground and
remonstrated quite aggressively with the father, who then couldn't
immediately retrieve his distressed child. As far as I'm concerned,
the victim man would have gained far more sympathy for his situation
if only he had acted a bit more responsibly himself. And all I have
done is point that out.

He could possibly have behaved better. That does not mean that he and
his companion were not the (obvious) victims. It does not mean that
the parent-with-the-camera-phone was in the right.

I have never suggested otherwise.


Good. But suggesting that post-collision reaction by the victim was
somehow untoward does go some way in that erroneous direction.

You seem to be taking all this as some kind of diminution of the
main point but it isn't, the main point has already been conceded.

This, luckily, was not a case of an injury accident. The breach of
the social distancing rules *is* the major issue here.

Again, I have never suggested otherwise.


We are in agreement.


Here is an update a day this incident:

Quote:
A COUPLE who knocked a six-year-old girl off her bike when they
refused to move won't face a police probe over the
"misunderstanding"... Detective Superintendent Kev Broadhead, from
Nottinghamshire Police, told The Sun Online that no action will be
taken. ... He said: "We have reviewed the footage and do not believe
this was a criminal offence. The couple involved called us about the
incident and we are satisfied that what took place was a
misunderstanding between the two parties. They have both been updated as
such.
Unquote

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/116172...icycle-police/

So, it seems the 'victim couple' themselves contacted the police as
they were worried about what could become of them after the video went
viral. There is mention of the government's new guidance and social
distancing. But interestingly, no mention, of any rules being broken
by the father and his daughter.

The mum says, "What an awful man. My daughter is traumatised. They
(i.e. the 'victim couple') clearly have an issue with cyclists and
were making a point of not moving."


Strange how it wasn't the gobby chav who called the police after failing
to supervise his 6 year old daughter and letting her ride dangerously in
public even though she hadn't learnt to use the brakes.

Not only the daughter but the chav approached the couple closer than 2
metres. The police usually fine people for this sort of anti-social
distancing behaviour.
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Old May 15th 20, 10:28 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mr Pounder Esquire
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Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, May 15, 2020 at 10:12:39 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, May 15, 2020 at 9:45:15 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Friday, May 15, 2020 at 8:45:07 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:


I am surprised you and Nugent don't die of dehydration. I have no
doubt you would argue with someone offering you a glass of water.

Why do you think he has been in my killfile for 10 years?

Cowards use a killfile.

It saves me reading tedious tripe that offers nothing to serious
debate and is my right to employ as I wish.


Then killfile me.
You only post boring **** anyway.


Then killfile me.


I don't do that.


 




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