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  #151  
Old May 20th 20, 03:27 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Pamela
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Default Madness: Driver almost hits oncoming vehicle while overtaking cyclist - SIMON

On 15:06 20 May 2020, Kelly said:
Simon Mason wrote:

...when I was investigated, they discovered that I never took a meal or
tea break and so they forced me to have them, during which I could post
about cycling matters to urc using company IT. In fact, they always
encouraged us to use the internet as it was "free IT training".


I think it is heinous that anyone should take a grievance they have with
someone on usenet and then anonymously and maliciously take it out into
real life. That in itself is bad enough, in my opinion.


The Internet is not some protected playpen where people can act illegally
and get away with it. There is real-world accountability:


A JUDGE has ordered a Seattle man to stop posting to a skiing
discussion group on the Internet after a six-month flame war developed
into threats of violence.

Scott Abraham and several others had been involved in a long-running
feud, both on the Usenet newsgroup rec.skiing.alpine and sometimes in
person on the slopes. The battle started with an argument over free
ski-lift tickets, and escalated to a flame war with insults, personal
attacks and offers to fight.

Later an anonymous poster threatened to shoot Abraham, who responded
that he had started carrying a gun. Two of Abraham’s opponents filed
complaints charging him with harassment. And on 12 November, a district
court judge ordered Abraham not to contact the defendants or post
anything to rec.skiing.alpine.

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  #152  
Old May 20th 20, 03:43 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Pamela
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Default Madness: Driver almost hits oncoming vehicle while overtaking cyclist

On 20:32 19 May 2020, TMS320 said:
On 19/05/2020 14:08, Pamela wrote:
On 10:47 19 May 2020, TMS320 said:
Pamela wrote:

Cyclists in this group have taken the side of the father because
the girl was riding a bike but what if she was on a scooter or
skateboard and fell over after being unable to slow down for a
couple on the footpath? Would they still think she and her
father was in the right?

Perhaps the cyclists can get you for libel with your claim "that they
have taken the side of the father".


Simon has alleged the man committed a public order offence. Simon also
provided own false testimony. See:

MID


It's pointless making a link. If there is something you want to bring
forward just copy and past it. Not that it's relevant.


Wake up, duh! The link show the origin of what I quoted. I hope you're
pretending to be thick and that it's not natural.

It is not libel for me to say cyclists have taken the side of the father.


But still an inaccurate statement.


In other words, your earlier comment is incorrect:

Perhaps the cyclists can get you for libel with your claim "that they
have taken the side of the father".
  #153  
Old May 20th 20, 03:55 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Kelly[_2_]
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Default Madness: Driver almost hits oncoming vehicle while overtaking cyclist - SIMON

Pamela wrote:

On 15:06 20 May 2020, Kelly said:
Simon Mason wrote:

...when I was investigated, they discovered that I never took a meal or
tea break and so they forced me to have them, during which I could post
about cycling matters to urc using company IT. In fact, they always
encouraged us to use the internet as it was "free IT training".


I think it is heinous that anyone should take a grievance they have with
someone on usenet and then anonymously and maliciously take it out into
real life. That in itself is bad enough, in my opinion.


The Internet is not some protected playpen where people can act illegally
and get away with it. There is real-world accountability:


A JUDGE has ordered a Seattle man to stop posting to a skiing
discussion group on the Internet after a six-month flame war developed
into threats of violence.

Scott Abraham and several others had been involved in a long-running
feud, both on the Usenet newsgroup rec.skiing.alpine and sometimes in
person on the slopes. The battle started with an argument over free
ski-lift tickets, and escalated to a flame war with insults, personal
attacks and offers to fight.

Later an anonymous poster threatened to shoot Abraham, who responded
that he had started carrying a gun. Two of Abraham’s opponents filed
complaints charging him with harassment. And on 12 November, a district
court judge ordered Abraham not to contact the defendants or post
anything to rec.skiing.alpine.


Yes, but what has got nothing to do with ukrc. Who is talking about
anyone attempting to 'act illegally and get away with it' on this
group?

  #154  
Old May 20th 20, 04:17 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Kelly[_2_]
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Default Madness: Driver almost hits oncoming vehicle while overtaking cyclist - SIMON

(Kelly) wrote:

Pamela wrote:

On 15:06 20 May 2020, Kelly said:
Simon Mason wrote:

...when I was investigated, they discovered that I never took a meal or
tea break and so they forced me to have them, during which I could post
about cycling matters to urc using company IT. In fact, they always
encouraged us to use the internet as it was "free IT training".

I think it is heinous that anyone should take a grievance they have with
someone on usenet and then anonymously and maliciously take it out into
real life. That in itself is bad enough, in my opinion.


The Internet is not some protected playpen where people can act illegally
and get away with it. There is real-world accountability:


A JUDGE has ordered a Seattle man to stop posting to a skiing
discussion group on the Internet after a six-month flame war developed
into threats of violence.

Scott Abraham and several others had been involved in a long-running
feud, both on the Usenet newsgroup rec.skiing.alpine and sometimes in
person on the slopes. The battle started with an argument over free
ski-lift tickets, and escalated to a flame war with insults, personal
attacks and offers to fight.

Later an anonymous poster threatened to shoot Abraham, who responded
that he had started carrying a gun. Two of Abraham’s opponents filed
complaints charging him with harassment. And on 12 November, a district
court judge ordered Abraham not to contact the defendants or post
anything to rec.skiing.alpine.


Yes, but what has got nothing to do with ukrc.


Oh dear, let me start again.

You state, "The Internet is not some protected playpen where people
can act illegally and get away with it."

Okay, no, its not. But what is the relevance of your statement here?
Who exactly are you suggesting has acted illegally and sought to get
away with it?

  #155  
Old May 20th 20, 04:27 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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Default Madness: Driver almost hits oncoming vehicle while overtakingcyclist - SIMON

On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 3:06:04 PM UTC+1, Kelly wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:

...when I was investigated, they discovered that I never took a meal or tea break and so they forced me to have them,
during which I could post about cycling matters to urc using company IT. In fact, they always encouraged us to use the
internet as it was "free IT training".


I think it is heinous that anyone should take a grievance they have
with someone on usenet and then anonymously and maliciously take it
out into real life. That in itself is bad enough, in my opinion.


That's why I took the letter to the police. It was obviously a malicous communication meant to cause me distress and alarm.
  #156  
Old May 20th 20, 05:03 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Kelly[_2_]
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Default Madness: Driver almost hits oncoming vehicle while overtaking cyclist - SIMON

Simon Mason wrote:

On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 3:06:04 PM UTC+1, Kelly wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:

...when I was investigated, they discovered that I never took a meal or tea break and so they forced me to have them,
during which I could post about cycling matters to urc using company IT. In fact, they always encouraged us to use the
internet as it was "free IT training".


I think it is heinous that anyone should take a grievance they have
with someone on usenet and then anonymously and maliciously take it
out into real life. That in itself is bad enough, in my opinion.


That's why I took the letter to the police. It was obviously a malicous communication meant to cause me distress and alarm.


There you go, that says enough.

Sounds like a trauma none of us would like to go through. Even without
knowing the exact details, it's like you said, nasty people.

  #157  
Old May 20th 20, 05:07 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default Madness: Driver almost hits oncoming vehicle while overtakingcyclist - SIMON

On 20/05/2020 15:06, Kelly wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:

...when I was investigated, they discovered that I never took a meal or tea break and so they forced me to have them,
during which I could post about cycling matters to urc using company IT. In fact, they always encouraged us to use the
internet as it was "free IT training".


I think it is heinous that anyone should take a grievance they have
with someone on usenet and then anonymously and maliciously take it
out into real life. That in itself is bad enough, in my opinion.


It's a good job that it didn't happen then, isn't it?

And it didn't. The poster concerned was a notorious wind-up merchant.
  #158  
Old May 20th 20, 05:08 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mr Pounder Esquire
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Default Madness: Driver almost hits oncoming vehicle while overtaking cyclist - SIMON

Simon Mason wrote:
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 3:06:04 PM UTC+1, Kelly wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:

...when I was investigated, they discovered that I never took a
meal or tea break and so they forced me to have them, during which
I could post about cycling matters to urc using company IT. In
fact, they always encouraged us to use the internet as it was "free
IT training".


I think it is heinous that anyone should take a grievance they have
with someone on usenet and then anonymously and maliciously take it
out into real life. That in itself is bad enough, in my opinion.


That's why I took the letter to the police. It was obviously a
malicous communication meant to cause me distress and alarm.


Forced to have a meal or a tea break. You would never have survived in the
real working world.


  #159  
Old May 20th 20, 06:08 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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Default Madness: Driver almost hits oncoming vehicle while overtakingcyclist - SIMON

On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 5:08:27 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 3:06:04 PM UTC+1, Kelly wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:

...when I was investigated, they discovered that I never took a
meal or tea break and so they forced me to have them, during which
I could post about cycling matters to urc using company IT. In
fact, they always encouraged us to use the internet as it was "free
IT training".

I think it is heinous that anyone should take a grievance they have
with someone on usenet and then anonymously and maliciously take it
out into real life. That in itself is bad enough, in my opinion.


That's why I took the letter to the police. It was obviously a
malicous communication meant to cause me distress and alarm.


Forced to have a meal or a tea break. You would never have survived in the
real working world.


I worked for 40 years in the chemical industry.
  #160  
Old May 20th 20, 06:21 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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Default Madness: Driver almost hits oncoming vehicle while overtakingcyclist - SIMON

On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 5:03:07 PM UTC+1, Kelly wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:

On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 3:06:04 PM UTC+1, Kelly wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:

...when I was investigated, they discovered that I never took a meal or tea break and so they forced me to have them,
during which I could post about cycling matters to urc using company IT. In fact, they always encouraged us to use the
internet as it was "free IT training".

I think it is heinous that anyone should take a grievance they have
with someone on usenet and then anonymously and maliciously take it
out into real life. That in itself is bad enough, in my opinion.


That's why I took the letter to the police. It was obviously a malicous communication meant to cause me distress and alarm.


There you go, that says enough.

Sounds like a trauma none of us would like to go through. Even without
knowing the exact details, it's like you said, nasty people.


The worst thing was having senior management having to go through pages of hateful messages celebrating the deaths of toddlers on bikes, rejoicing when old cyclists died of heart attacks and much worse. All in the most disgusting of language.

Poor Guy Chapman had nutters ringing his wife up in the early hours on pay phones and hanging up. Calling him a murderer and publishing personal details incuding the names of his children, his phone number and medical details online. Nasty people indeed.
 




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