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Not sure I agree with this
http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/usa...tage-2/results
"The Trek-Livestrong squad of Taylor Phinney, Ian Moir, Julian Kyer and Justin Williams dominated the men's team pursuit contest, taking the Stars and Stripes by nearly 10 seconds. With a time of 4:25.83, such a dominant performance by a group of young men all under the age of 21 bodes well for the future of American track cycling." If they were to knock 10 seconds off that time, they would still place behind the Koreans at Worlds. http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/track...results/men_tp And that's about a million miles away from a medal in that event. I'm guessing they would be close to getting lapped by the riders the US had in the mid 1990s, the only group to produce medals. Compare this year's times to what was going on over a decade ago at an outdoor track. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...21c4e905835409 Granted the team pursuit seems to be targeted for elimination. And granted those are all young guys. But the distance between a 4:25 and relevance is large. Bob Schwartz |
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Not sure I agree with this
On Oct 2, 8:24*am, Bob Schwartz
wrote: http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/usa...k-championship... "The Trek-Livestrong squad of Taylor Phinney, Ian Moir, Julian Kyer and Justin Williams dominated the men's team pursuit contest, taking the Stars and Stripes by nearly 10 seconds. With a time of 4:25.83, such a dominant performance by a group of young men all under the age of 21 bodes well for the future of American track cycling." If they were to knock 10 seconds off that time, they would still place behind the Koreans at Worlds. http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/track...results/men_tp And that's about a million miles away from a medal in that event. I'm guessing they would be close to getting lapped by the riders the US had in the mid 1990s, the only group to produce medals. Compare this year's times to what was going on over a decade ago at an outdoor track. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...21c4e905835409 Granted the team pursuit seems to be targeted for elimination. And granted those are all young guys. But the distance between a 4:25 and relevance is large. Bob Schwartz Don't know if this is the case, so I won't declare it as such, Kunich- style, but... there's a good chance they cobbled that team together the morning of the event or a few days before, at most. With a bit of proper training for the TP, they will likely be much faster. Whether they'd have a chance at medalling on an international level, that's yet to be seen. |
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Not sure I agree with this
Bob Schwartz wrote:
Granted the team pursuit seems to be targeted for elimination. And granted those are all young guys. But the distance between a 4:25 and relevance is large. Maybe the turns were slowing them down. |
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On Oct 2, 11:23*am, "Robert Chung"
wrote: Bob Schwartz wrote: Granted the team pursuit seems to be targeted for elimination. And granted those are all young guys. But the distance between a 4:25 and relevance is large. Maybe the turns were slowing them down. As much time and money as TIAF-CREF put in to Team Pursuit in 2006 the best they could do at Worlds in France that year was a 4:14. Pate, Creed Huff and Freisckorn. You need those other 3 guys to let Phinney drag them along for the entire 4k and their time would come down another 10 seconds. |
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Tri-Geek Slayer wrote:
As much time and money as TIAF-CREF put in to Team Pursuit in 2006 the best they could do at Worlds in France that year was a 4:14. Pate, Creed Huff and Freisckorn. You need those other 3 guys to let Phinney drag them along for the entire 4k and their time would come down another 10 seconds. http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/kool_aid.jpg |
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Robert Chung wrote:
Tri-Geek Slayer wrote: As much time and money as TIAF-CREF put in to Team Pursuit in 2006 the best they could do at Worlds in France that year was a 4:14. Pate, Creed Huff and Freisckorn. You need those other 3 guys to let Phinney drag them along for the entire 4k and their time would come down another 10 seconds. http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/kool_aid.jpg Perhaps he meant from their current time, 4:25. Phinney's personal best is 4:15. |
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Not sure I agree with this
On Oct 2, 4:21*pm, Susan Walker wrote:
Robert Chung wrote: Tri-Geek Slayer wrote: As much time and money as TIAF-CREF put in to Team Pursuit in 2006 the best they could do at Worlds in France that year was a 4:14. Pate, Creed Huff and Freisckorn. You need those other 3 guys to let Phinney drag them along for the entire 4k and their time would come down another 10 seconds. http://anonymous.coward.free.fr/rbr/kool_aid.jpg Perhaps he meant from their current time, 4:25. Phinney's personal best is 4:15. If the US wanted to win the pursuit the Phinney's should have had triplets. Damn selfish of them not to consider this 2 decades ago. |
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Anton Berlin wrote:
If the US wanted to win the pursuit the Phinney's should have had triplets. Damn selfish of them not to consider this 2 decades ago. Is cloning UCI legal ? |
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