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Going through the thread "Armstrong's NYC marathon time?" we see the following
picks for time: BJC at 2:35 Cowpunk at 2:55 RJK3 at "under 2:40: the question is by how much" Joedopebucket said "I will be impressed if he does it under 3 hours." Kyle Legate clocked in with "Who cares?" Miley90 estimated 3:07-3:12 Rik Van Diesel guessed 2:44 Dwayne thought matching Jaja's 2:55 would be good but beating 2:42 (a time turned in by Rolf Aldag in his marthon debut) would be a compulsive Lance's line. Rik Van Diesel changed to a 2:40 Ryan Cousineau went with a "supermotivated" 2:34 Ewoud Dronkert went with a 3:10 Phil Holman said 2:57 Michael Press at 2:35 Mark Fenelli at 2:50 Ben Weiner talked about rbr-LANCE drug use scenarios Since he ran a 2:59:37, I'd say that Joedopebucket is now officially impressed (if only just), Phil Holman came closest with actual numbers and Ryan Cousineau gets the Alex Trebekian "Oooh..." Noted that Nike provided three elite-level marathoneers to pace him. Did they peel off as they approached the line or did they get to sprint away at the end? -- tanx, Howard Never take a tenant with a monkey. remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok? |
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Howard Kveck wrote:
Noted that Nike provided three elite-level marathoneers to pace him. Did they peel off as they approached the line or did they get to sprint away at the end? and did LANCE tell them to pull or get dropped. |
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Donald Munro wrote:
Howard Kveck wrote: Noted that Nike provided three elite-level marathoneers to pace him. Did they peel off as they approached the line or did they get to sprint away at the end? and did LANCE tell them to pull or get dropped. LOL! Steve |
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Howard Kveck wrote:
Noted that Nike provided three elite-level marathoneers to pace him. Did they peel off as they approached the line or did they get to sprint away at the end? The pacing situation was weird. Joan Benoit Samuelson was fetching drinks from aid stations and handing them to LANCE. Hicham El Guerrouj, recently retired mile record holder, seemed to jump in with about 8 miles to go, and was fetching GU packs from aid stations, tearing them open, and handing them to LANCE. There was a Hispanic guy with a T-shirt reading "GERMAN", who I thought might have been former NYCM winner German Silva, and ran with LANCE almost the whole way. The only one of these I noticed crossing the finish line was El Guerrouj. I never noticed Alberto Salazar, who was mentioned in some media stories. I found the sight of El G and Joanie fetching refreshments very strange. Either (a) Nike doled out huge payola to them; (b) LANCE is a much nicer guy than it appears from media reports, and these other athletes really like him; (c) LANCE is so highly respected for his achievements that athletics superstars want to fetch him drinks and GU. I have no idea which applies... |
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"Dwayne" wrote in message
oups.com... Howard Kveck wrote: Noted that Nike provided three elite-level marathoneers to pace him. Did they peel off as they approached the line or did they get to sprint away at the end? The pacing situation was weird. Joan Benoit Samuelson was fetching drinks from aid stations and handing them to LANCE. Hicham El Guerrouj, recently retired mile record holder, seemed to jump in with about 8 miles to go, and was fetching GU packs from aid stations, tearing them open, and handing them to LANCE. There was a Hispanic guy with a T-shirt reading "GERMAN", who I thought might have been former NYCM winner German Silva, and ran with LANCE almost the whole way. The only one of these I noticed crossing the finish line was El Guerrouj. I never noticed Alberto Salazar, who was mentioned in some media stories. Sounds like cheating to me... JF |
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Dwayne wrote:
There was a Hispanic guy with a T-shirt reading "GERMAN", That was an incognito Ullrich in his Spanish disguise. |
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Dwayne wrote:
Howard Kveck wrote: Noted that Nike provided three elite-level marathoneers to pace him. Did they peel off as they approached the line or did they get to sprint away at the end? The pacing situation was weird. Joan Benoit Samuelson was fetching drinks from aid stations and handing them to LANCE. Hicham El Guerrouj, recently retired mile record holder, seemed to jump in with about 8 miles to go, and was fetching GU packs from aid stations, tearing them open, and handing them to LANCE. There was a Hispanic guy with a T-shirt reading "GERMAN", who I thought might have been former NYCM winner German Silva, and ran with LANCE almost the whole way. The only one of these I noticed crossing the finish line was El Guerrouj. I never noticed Alberto Salazar, who was mentioned in some media stories. I found the sight of El G and Joanie fetching refreshments very strange. Either (a) Nike doled out huge payola to them; (b) LANCE is a much nicer guy than it appears from media reports, and these other athletes really like him; They like him--they REALLY LIKE HIM!! Steve (c) LANCE is so highly respected for his achievements that athletics superstars want to fetch him drinks and GU. I have no idea which applies... -- Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS http://www.dentaltwins.com Brooklyn, NY 718-258-5001 |
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On 6 Nov 2006 07:17:27 -0800, "Dwayne"
wrote: I found the sight of El G and Joanie fetching refreshments very strange. Either (a) Nike doled out huge payola to them; (b) LANCE is a much nicer guy than it appears from media reports, and these other athletes really like him; (c) LANCE is so highly respected for his achievements that athletics superstars want to fetch him drinks and GU. I have no idea which applies... A and C for sure, and maybe a bit of B for people like that. That said, I was vaguely offended by the whole thing. Here's this guy running moderately fast but having all these icons and other people helping him? Is that what it's about? Who else does the run like that. The elites sure don't - they get special bottles but do they get a posse to help them. Normal athletes don't either. I imagine some very physically challenged athletes get that support. Is that what this is about? It's just a 40K run. -- JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visit http://www.jt10000.com **************************** |
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That said, I was vaguely offended by the whole thing. Here's this guy
running moderately fast but having all these icons and other people helping him? Is that what it's about? Who else does the run like that. The elites sure don't - they get special bottles but do they get a posse to help them. Normal athletes don't either. I imagine some very physically challenged athletes get that support. Is that what this is about? It's just a 40K run. To be fair, the TV coverage spent quite a bit of time talking about runners who pay "rabbits" to help pace them for the first 16 miles or so, and then drop out. This caught me off guard; it was entirely new to me. But that's a bit different than having someone physically help you by essentially fetching your water bottles and feed bags (which is closer to what it sounds like Lance was having done for him). --Mike Jacoubowsky Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReaction.com Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA "John Forrest Tomlinson" wrote in message ... On 6 Nov 2006 07:17:27 -0800, "Dwayne" wrote: I found the sight of El G and Joanie fetching refreshments very strange. Either (a) Nike doled out huge payola to them; (b) LANCE is a much nicer guy than it appears from media reports, and these other athletes really like him; (c) LANCE is so highly respected for his achievements that athletics superstars want to fetch him drinks and GU. I have no idea which applies... A and C for sure, and maybe a bit of B for people like that. That said, I was vaguely offended by the whole thing. Here's this guy running moderately fast but having all these icons and other people helping him? Is that what it's about? Who else does the run like that. The elites sure don't - they get special bottles but do they get a posse to help them. Normal athletes don't either. I imagine some very physically challenged athletes get that support. Is that what this is about? It's just a 40K run. -- JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visit http://www.jt10000.com **************************** |
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