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Fla. 8-Year-Old Gets Traffic Ticket For Bike Mishap (irresponsible idiot parents refuse to pay)
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Fla. 8-Year-Old Gets Traffic Ticket For Bike Mishap (irresponsible idiot parents refuse to pay)
"Chalo" wrote in message
om... Parents whose values were not grossly skewed by car-centrism would be more likely to track down the person whose motor-driven careless disregard nearly killed their kid, and lay on an ass whipping that would leave him/her somewhere between remorseful and permanently disabled. Troll. Note that it's multiply posted within this thread. |
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Fla. 8-Year-Old Gets Traffic Ticket For Bike Mishap (irresponsible idiot parents refuse to pay)
"Chalo" wrote in message om... Society has no social contract with 8-year-olds that would oblige them to observe traffic laws. Their parents signed the contract. And do we want a society that's safe for cars, or one that's safe for kids? I know my answer. We certainly don't want a society that teaches kids they're not responsible for their actions until they become adults. Oh, wait, we already have one. The one where metal detectors have to be installed at school entrances. RichC |
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Fla. 8-Year-Old Gets Traffic Ticket For Bike Mishap (irresponsibleidiot parents refuse to pay)
Chalo wrote:
The Real Bev wrote: But in this case the kid DID get caught. Sensible parents would make him pay restitution, pay something additional for punishment, and give him some extra punishment for being careless and getting caught. Don't know what you mean by "sensible". Parents whose values were not grossly skewed by car-centrism Ah, I see, you're here to spew. Third door on the left. You'll be confronting Mr. Jones, who believes that all bicyclists should be killed. Have a nice day. would be more likely to track down the person whose motor-driven careless disregard nearly killed their kid, and lay on an ass whipping that would leave him/her somewhere between remorseful and permanently disabled. Their kid intruded into the space reserved for cars. One of the first things you teach a kid is STAY OUT OF THE STREET unless certain conditions are met. Such conditions vary with the age of the kid. An 8-year-old ought to know where he can and can't ride his bicycle, and it's the kids' parents' responsibility to teach him. That's what parents do. Why would you wish to live in a world where children must pay the price so that adult motorists can escape the consequences of their actions? God told you to say that, right? -- Cheers, Bev ================================================== ============ "Arguing on the internet is like running a race in the Special Olympics: even if you win, you're still retarded." |
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Mon, 27 Oct 2003 21:57:41 -0800, ,
The Real Bev wrote: Their kid intruded into the space reserved for cars. Somebody's private garage? -- zk |
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Fla. 8-Year-Old Gets Traffic Ticket For Bike Mishap (irresponsible idiot parents refuse to pay)
The Real Bev wrote:
Their kid intruded into the space reserved for cars. By which you mean, the transportation infrastructure provided for the use of all citizens? The one that kid cyclists get to use without qualification, but that motorists must be licensed to use? Is that the one you mean? One of the first things you teach a kid is STAY OUT OF THE STREET unless certain conditions are met. And a cardinal rule for car drivers (a litmus test for whether a driver has screwed up, even) is "don't run into/over children under any circumstances." An 8-year-old ought to know where he can and can't ride his bicycle, and it's the kids' parents' responsibility to teach him. That's what parents do. And it is a driver's responsibility to operate his or her vehicle in such a way as not to squash kids. Even if that means _slowing down_, or (God forbid!) _stopping_. Ethical practice dictates that the one who imposes the risk of harm into a situation take the responsibility for managing that risk. And when it comes to anything other than cars, folks understand this principle. For instance, if someone went out shooting a gun in an assumed safe direction (for celebration, or warning, or whatever) and someone else were shot and injured as a result, it would not matter to most people that the gunman wasn't aiming to shoot anybody in particular. He would still bear responsibility for the harm done. The shooting victim would not be held responsible simply for being in the line of fire. Because driving is so pervasive, drivers do not see their activity as tantamount to shooting around into the community, but it is. It kills something like 4 to 5 times as many USA folks in a given year as are killed by gunshot. (And the USA is the gunshot-killinest nation in the developed world by a huge margin.) Why would you wish to live in a world where children must pay the price so that adult motorists can escape the consequences of their actions? God told you to say that, right? I don't see what anybody's God has to do with it. It's basic ethics, which belong to no religion. Chalo Colina |
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Fla. 8-Year-Old Gets Traffic Ticket For Bike Mishap (irresponsible idiot parents refuse to pay)
"Sorni" wrote:
"Chalo" wrote: What a load of crap. Any motorist who can't drive such as to avoid mowing down children should be stripped of the right, and quickly. So the next time a kid runs out from a hidden driveway or something in front of you on your bike, you'll take full responsibility for both of your injuries -- AND give up your "right" to ride?!? If you won't morally distinguish between riding a bike-- which imposes a risk on others less than that of lightning strikes, bee stings, or choking on a wiener-- and driving a car, which kills thousands of non-motorists in the USA every year, you must be actively trying to justify your own morally indefensible conduct. Every time you drive a car you accept a significant risk of hurting or killing someone who had no part in your decision to drive. If a non-motorist gets hurt or killed as a result, the responsibility lies with you, the one who made the difference between an accident, and an accident with injury or death. Chalo Colina |
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Fla. 8-Year-Old Gets Traffic Ticket For Bike Mishap (irresponsible idiot parents refuse to pay)
Nothing 'chumpy' about these statements! I have often disagreed with all of
what this poster has said BUT NOT THIS. What he is saying is correct and proper and how he's saying it is almost strong enough. Gracias Senior! "Chalo" wrote in message om... If you won't morally distinguish between riding a bike-- which imposes a risk on others less than that of lightning strikes, bee stings, or choking on a wiener-- and driving a car, which kills thousands of non-motorists in the USA every year, you must be actively trying to justify your own morally indefensible conduct. Every time you drive a car you accept a significant risk of hurting or killing someone who had no part in your decision to drive. If a non-motorist gets hurt or killed as a result, the responsibility lies with you, the one who made the difference between an accident, and an accident with injury or death. Chalo Colina |
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