Car ban during heat wave

wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 July 2018 13:36:18 UTC+1, wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 July 2018 09:03:10 UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/07/18 00:01, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 6:40:55 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 30/06/18 18:53, Simon Jester wrote:

Cars typically put out 60 kw of heat. Even on the rare occasions
motorists stop at red lights they are still emitting 5 kw on
idle. Do we really need all this unnecessary heat?

60kW is on the high side. But that's just mechanical energy (which
eventually turns to heat). The total heat output from burning the
fuel is three times that.

All a cars energy comes from burning fuel and all energy becomes
heat.

Indeed. So values are 120kW (3x30, not 3x60) running and 15kW (3x5)
idling.

Police are now offering a free car ventilation service!
I am sure M'lud Nuglet would say that this is "criminal damage" in
Nugentworld.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-hot-cars.html

As a cyclist, if a car driver endangers MY life, can I use a D lock
to smash HIS window?

Only a silly cyclist would ask that sort of silly question.

On 03/07/2018 14:53, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 July 2018 13:36:18 UTC+1, wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 July 2018 09:03:10 UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/07/18 00:01, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 6:40:55 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 30/06/18 18:53, Simon Jester wrote:

Cars typically put out 60 kw of heat. Even on the rare occasions
motorists stop at red lights they are still emitting 5 kw on
idle. Do we really need all this unnecessary heat?

60kW is on the high side. But that's just mechanical energy (which
eventually turns to heat). The total heat output from burning the
fuel is three times that.

All a cars energy comes from burning fuel and all energy becomes
heat.

Indeed. So values are 120kW (3x30, not 3x60) running and 15kW (3x5)
idling.

Police are now offering a free car ventilation service!
I am sure M'lud Nuglet would say that this is "criminal damage" in
Nugentworld.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-hot-cars.html

As a cyclist, if a car driver endangers MY life, can I use a D lock
to smash HIS window?

Only a silly cyclist would ask that sort of silly question.



Well he did try to jump through a lorry windscreen, so obviously the
balance of his mind is deeply disturbed.

wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 July 2018 13:36:18 UTC+1, wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 July 2018 09:03:10 UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/07/18 00:01, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 6:40:55 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 30/06/18 18:53, Simon Jester wrote:

Cars typically put out 60 kw of heat. Even on the rare occasions
motorists stop at red lights they are still emitting 5 kw on idle.
Do we really need all this unnecessary heat?

60kW is on the high side. But that's just mechanical energy (which
eventually turns to heat). The total heat output from burning the
fuel is three times that.

All a cars energy comes from burning fuel and all energy becomes
heat.

Indeed. So values are 120kW (3x30, not 3x60) running and 15kW (3x5)
idling.

Police are now offering a free car ventilation service! I am sure M'lud
Nuglet would say that this is "criminal damage" in Nugentworld.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-hot-cars.html

As a cyclist, if a car driver endangers MY life, can I use a D lock to
smash HIS window?

Yes.

--
john smith |MA (Hons)|MPhil (Hons)|CAPES (mention très bien)|LLB (Hons)
'It never gets any easier. You just get faster'
(Greg LeMond (1961 - ))

On 03/07/2018 13:36, wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 July 2018 09:03:10 UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/07/18 00:01, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 6:40:55 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 30/06/18 18:53, Simon Jester wrote:

Cars typically put out 60 kw of heat. Even on the rare occasions
motorists stop at red lights they are still emitting 5 kw on idle.
Do we really need all this unnecessary heat?

60kW is on the high side. But that's just mechanical energy (which
eventually turns to heat). The total heat output from burning the fuel
is three times that.

All a cars energy comes from burning fuel and all energy becomes heat.

Indeed. So values are 120kW (3x30, not 3x60) running and 15kW (3x5) idling.

Police are now offering a free car ventilation service!
I am sure M'lud Nuglet would say that this is "criminal damage" in Nugentworld.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-hot-cars.html

Damaging a vehicle, where the damage is not accidental or consented to,
is a criminal offence in almost all circumstances. But there is a
defence against a statutory criminal damage charge, to the effect that
causing the damage is not a crime if it is necessary, or at least, in
the circumstances, reasonably believed to be necessary, in order to
prevent other loss or damage to something in immediate need of protection.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1971/48/section/5

This and analogous provisions are relied upon by the forces of law and
order the world over when gaining access to premises and vehicles in an
emergency. Saving the life of an animal (especially a legally-defined
species such as a dog) in hot weather would easily qualify for that
defence in the UK.

Note that a police officer utilising this power (it isn't limited to
police officers, BTW) is acting judiciously, cautiously and impartially.
He isn't acting out of pique.

MrCheerful wrote:
On 03/07/2018 14:53, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 July 2018 13:36:18 UTC+1, wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 July 2018 09:03:10 UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/07/18 00:01, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 6:40:55 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 30/06/18 18:53, Simon Jester wrote:

Cars typically put out 60 kw of heat. Even on the rare
occasions motorists stop at red lights they are still emitting
5 kw on idle. Do we really need all this unnecessary heat?

60kW is on the high side. But that's just mechanical energy
(which eventually turns to heat). The total heat output from
burning the fuel is three times that.

All a cars energy comes from burning fuel and all energy becomes
heat.

Indeed. So values are 120kW (3x30, not 3x60) running and 15kW
(3x5) idling.

Police are now offering a free car ventilation service!
I am sure M'lud Nuglet would say that this is "criminal damage" in
Nugentworld.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-hot-cars.html

As a cyclist, if a car driver endangers MY life, can I use a D lock
to smash HIS window?

Only a silly cyclist would ask that sort of silly question.



Well he did try to jump through a lorry windscreen, so obviously the
balance of his mind is deeply disturbed.

Yes he did do that. And for some very strange reason he told us all about
it. Seems that I actually got a mention in his book............. flattered
I'm sure.
Simon: As far as cycling arseholes go you are not the biggest, but why did
you ask your silly question?

JNugent wrote:
On 03/07/2018 13:36, wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 July 2018 09:03:10 UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/07/18 00:01, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 6:40:55 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 30/06/18 18:53, Simon Jester wrote:

Cars typically put out 60 kw of heat. Even on the rare occasions
motorists stop at red lights they are still emitting 5 kw on idle.
Do we really need all this unnecessary heat?

60kW is on the high side. But that's just mechanical energy (which
eventually turns to heat). The total heat output from burning the
fuel is three times that.

All a cars energy comes from burning fuel and all energy becomes heat.

Indeed. So values are 120kW (3x30, not 3x60) running and 15kW (3x5)
idling.

Police are now offering a free car ventilation service! I am sure M'lud
Nuglet would say that this is "criminal damage" in Nugentworld.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-hot-cars.html

Damaging a vehicle, where the damage is not accidental or consented to,
is a criminal offence in almost all circumstances. But there is a
defence against a statutory criminal damage charge, to the effect that
causing the damage is not a crime if it is necessary, or at least, in
the circumstances, reasonably believed to be necessary, in order to
prevent other loss or damage to something in immediate need of protection.

Still using Wiki to pass yourself off as educated in the law, I see.

D.
--
john smith |MA (Hons)|MPhil (Hons)|CAPES (mention très bien)|LLB (Hons)
'It never gets any easier. You just get faster'
(Greg LeMond (1961 - ))

On Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:53:35 UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 July 2018 13:36:18 UTC+1, wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 July 2018 09:03:10 UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/07/18 00:01, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 6:40:55 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 30/06/18 18:53, Simon Jester wrote:

Cars typically put out 60 kw of heat. Even on the rare occasions
motorists stop at red lights they are still emitting 5 kw on
idle. Do we really need all this unnecessary heat?

60kW is on the high side. But that's just mechanical energy (which
eventually turns to heat). The total heat output from burning the
fuel is three times that.

All a cars energy comes from burning fuel and all energy becomes
heat.

Indeed. So values are 120kW (3x30, not 3x60) running and 15kW (3x5)
idling.

Police are now offering a free car ventilation service!
I am sure M'lud Nuglet would say that this is "criminal damage" in
Nugentworld.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-hot-cars.html

As a cyclist, if a car driver endangers MY life, can I use a D lock
to smash HIS window?

Only a silly cyclist would ask that sort of silly question.

I smashed my neighbour's car window. He doesn't have a dog, I just don't like him.

On 03/07/2018 17:49, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
MrCheerful wrote:
On 03/07/2018 14:53, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 July 2018 13:36:18 UTC+1, wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 July 2018 09:03:10 UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/07/18 00:01, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, July 2, 2018 at 6:40:55 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 30/06/18 18:53, Simon Jester wrote:

Cars typically put out 60 kw of heat. Even on the rare
occasions motorists stop at red lights they are still emitting
5 kw on idle. Do we really need all this unnecessary heat?

60kW is on the high side. But that's just mechanical energy
(which eventually turns to heat). The total heat output from
burning the fuel is three times that.

All a cars energy comes from burning fuel and all energy becomes
heat.

Indeed. So values are 120kW (3x30, not 3x60) running and 15kW
(3x5) idling.

Police are now offering a free car ventilation service!
I am sure M'lud Nuglet would say that this is "criminal damage" in
Nugentworld.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-hot-cars.html

As a cyclist, if a car driver endangers MY life, can I use a D lock
to smash HIS window?

Only a silly cyclist would ask that sort of silly question.



Well he did try to jump through a lorry windscreen, so obviously the
balance of his mind is deeply disturbed.

Yes he did do that. And for some very strange reason he told us all about
it. Seems that I actually got a mention in his book............. flattered
I'm sure.
Simon: As far as cycling arseholes go you are not the biggest, but why did
you ask your silly question?





yes he told everyone via numerous articles in papers, every comment said
something along the lines of 'you stupid, selfish *******'

On Tuesday, 3 July 2018 17:50:00 UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Simon: As far as cycling arseholes go you are not the biggest, but why did
you ask your silly question?

Dunno - as a mental health patient I am now in receipt of £400 pm in PIP and our lass gets a carer's allowance - result!

wrote:
On Tuesday, 3 July 2018 17:50:00 UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Simon: As far as cycling arseholes go you are not the biggest, but
why did you ask your silly question?

Dunno - as a mental health patient I am now in receipt of £400 pm in
PIP and our lass gets a carer's allowance - result!

That is not a result.
And I'm sorry to hear this.
What went wrong?