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  #81  
Old October 27th 06, 10:54 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
William Asher
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SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:

wrote:
SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:
B. Lafferty wrote:
And then there's that budget deficit every year under Bush.

*We* can invoke the Chung-Wiener Postulate by saying "*We* owe it
to *ourselves*." LOL.


Dumbass,

Your blinkered ideology and righteous anger blinds you to
a fundamental truth about the Chung-Wiener Postulate and
its authors' all-encompassing plan for statist domination
in the soon-to-arrive Socialist Paradise.


I see you don't understand your own postulate, !but wait!, there's
mo I wouldn't call it "your plan" to vote for democratic
politicians. You're just sloughing off the impossible work of
planning to "them," by closing your eyes and crossing your fingers,
and hoping beautiful stuff happens. And "them" doesn't hook up with
"we," you see. That is, unless "we," is "them," which is exactly what
you and Press called a "straw-man." {laughs}

The postulate is simple: "Conflate 'I,' 'society,' and 'government'
without bothering with any reasoning behind the conflation."

Namely, it's spelled "Weiner."


You Weeners can't make up your mind (Singular "mind" for "we" Weeners,
right?):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1575242834/
http://www.amazon.com/Nonlinear-Prob...rch-Monographs
/dp/026273012X/

Anyway, I prefer your speilling.

Thanks,
Ben ['We'-iner]

P.S.


Nice one.

...vote Democrat in November.

Whatever. That will only change how you feel inside. Frankenstein
won't play nice just cuz a demopublican got elected, no matter what
their intentions. The monster you created to do good will consume
you (*and* your kids). If you want to do summum bonum, go into tax
law and figure out how to starve this awful beast.


Well, I certainly agree that your interpretation is
internally consistent, in the sense if after the last
six years, you don't feel that there is any difference
between the parties, then I don't think you ever will.


What meaningful difference? For democrats, what is not to love in
GWB?
For example:

1. Took the US war-mongering (like wilson, fdr, jfk, johnson)
2. Violates the constitution (implied powers, like any president)
3. Violates treaties (imperialist, like most presidents)
4. Expands government and taxes (backdoor taxation via
deficits/inflation)
5. Expands federal powers in socialist education (no child gets ahead
act)
6. Expands socialism in medicine (prescription drug 'benefits')
7. Is a retard
:
:
inf. reasons ad infinitum


How could a democrat be a better democrat than GWB? Seriously. The
republican and democrat parties are the same. There is no "choice"
for "us."

Adios (not dutch),
Greg

PS: Please don't "waste your vote," by voting demopublican. {laughs}


You need to turn down the volume on Hot Talk Radio with Mike Reagan, Rush
Limbaugh, and G. Gordon Liddy when you post. It's bleeding over and really
distracting.

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  #82  
Old October 27th 06, 10:58 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,rec.bicycles.misc
bill
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Dan Gregory wrote:
Ghost of Chicago Stadium wrote:
The majority of America has elected George Bush twice.

Isn't that open to some debate?

It sure is.
The first time his brother was mysteriously in the state that gave him
the election, which he did NOT win by popular vote, but by the now
antiquated Electoral college.
The second time he won by too much, indicating to me a 'fixed' election.
Seeing how bad he screwed up the first 4 years makes me really
suspicious how he could have taken a virtual landslide from Kerry.
Kerry may be butt ugly but he actually served while the coward ducked
and may or may not have even shown up for guard duty.
His second term has proven him to be a manipulated moron, and his direct
underlings (Cheney, Hastert, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft) don't make things look
too rosey from many people's point of view.

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  #83  
Old October 27th 06, 10:58 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
John Forrest Tomlinson
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On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:55:33 -0400, RonSonic
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 07:43:35 -0400, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote:

On a strategic level, getting the troops home from Iraq and not
letting them get caught up in another pointless exercize that puts
them in harm's way is probably the best way to support the US military
men and women.


They didn't sign up to stay home and stay safe.


I don't think they signed up for a pointless war either. Or to make
the US *less* safe.

But I have question for Bill C -- what's a good charity to give to to
directly support servicemen who are still there (or in need in other
places). I may need to assuage some of my liberal guilt.


Encourage them to succeed instead of whining about their obstacles.


There is no such thing as success in the current situation in Iraq.
The situation is a disaster.

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Old October 27th 06, 11:00 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,rec.bicycles.misc
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On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:52:35 -0500, "Ghost of Chicago Stadium"
wrote:

The majority of America has elected George Bush twice.

Right. And up is down. Stay the course is adapt to win. And
waterboarding isn't torture.
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Old October 27th 06, 11:00 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,rec.bicycles.misc
bill
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Steven Bornfeld wrote:
Ghost of Chicago Stadium wrote:
The majority of America has elected George Bush twice.


Election day's a'comin!!

Steve

Yeah,
And I will finally vote with a smile because it's gonna be a Republican
clean house day. I give it to the Democrats all the way, unless there
are some states with hopelessly stupid voters.



I understand your
right to a minority opinion, but please remember it is a minority
opinion.
I think the original poster deserves more respect.




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  #86  
Old October 27th 06, 11:40 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,rec.bicycles.misc
Steven Bornfeld
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bill wrote:
Steven Bornfeld wrote:
Ghost of Chicago Stadium wrote:
The majority of America has elected George Bush twice.


Election day's a'comin!!

Steve

Yeah,
And I will finally vote with a smile because it's gonna be a Republican
clean house day. I give it to the Democrats all the way, unless there
are some states with hopelessly stupid voters.


Well, it'll be tough to get any meaningful legislation through the next
2 years. And there's that Supreme Court.
But it's a start!

Steve



I understand your
right to a minority opinion, but please remember it is a minority
opinion.
I think the original poster deserves more respect.




  #87  
Old October 27th 06, 11:41 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,rec.bicycles.misc
di
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"bill" wrote in message
om...
Steven Bornfeld wrote:
Ghost of Chicago Stadium wrote:
The majority of America has elected George Bush twice.


Election day's a'comin!!

Steve

Yeah,
And I will finally vote with a smile because it's gonna be a Republican
clean house day. I give it to the Democrats all the way, unless there are
some states with hopelessly stupid voters.



I understand your
right to a minority opinion, but please remember it is a minority
opinion.
I think the original poster deserves more respect.




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Bill (Sleepless biker) Baka


Bill, stay with 50mph tricycles, you're not good at politics.


  #88  
Old October 27th 06, 11:49 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
kleutervreter
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Bill C wrote:
On Oct 26, 11:11 am, "Robert Chung" wrote:
Thought I'd covered that pretty clearly. Military service isn't for
everyone, and sure as hell isn't the only option for a citizen to serve
their country. No sweat if that's not your gig, but unless you "Put up"
in some way like charity work, teaching, assisting, etc...then IMO you
are a parasite and need to just STFU.
There is NO democracy without the people being responsible to it, not
just taking advantage of it.
As far as what you choose to do; that's individual. I'm the last
person you'll ever hear say that helping at a shelter or whatever is
less important, or valid, than being military.


What you are saying is that just being an office worker worried about
your paycheck makes you a parasite. That doesn't work. If it were not
for millions of office workers earning their daily bread, the economy
would not be able to field an army in the first place.
Everyone making a contribution to the economy is by definition not a
parasite. Even the drug-saturated rockstar makes a contribution by
providing entertainment to office workers who would otherwise kill each
other.
The hero of civilization is the worker drone.

The military tries to provides a space free from external threats so
that civilians can develop the country as they see fit.


The military tries to follow orders. Only in the instances where those
orders allow the stated objective is the statement correct.

Without those
civilians stepping up and providing "service" to the country we haven't
done anything but protect a hollow shell.


Can the military claim a higher proportion of selfless individuals? I
think for many in the military it is just a job. A job that offers a
good package for the required skill and risk.

You need both, and both are equally important.
Taking the money and running because you are a selfish jackass with
your own agenda and priorities that don't include giving back to others
and the country makes you a complete loser and scumbag at best.


Just paying your own tax makes you bad. Giving extra makes you good.
Living off other people's taxes makes you good.
We should have a competition. See who can believe the most logic errors
at the same time.

The key is to give something of value back. Period. Some people can
only give a little. I know lots of people getting help who will make
donations and volunteer when they can to pass some on to others even
though they have very little.


"People getting help" sounds better than "people taking tax money". I'm
ready for that competition now.

Give what you can in a way that works for you, but IMO parasites
deserve to be treated like the scum they are.


Parasites are people too. Just because someone cannot find a job does
not mean he or she should be treated like scum.

  #89  
Old October 28th 06, 12:04 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,rec.bicycles.misc
SLAVE of THE STATE
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Bob Schwartz wrote:
wrote:

A good troll. It may have not been intentional, but crossposting
along with the reference to a controversial topic made sure all
the necessary elements were there. Getting Bill C to say "I'm not
getting wrapped up in this one" when you know he can't help
himself from wading in is a good quality indicator.

My one beef is that it was a tad incomplete. If you had mentioned
that you weren't wearing a helmet and were bringing two guns for
protection, then it would have been complete.


Doc Schwartz,

Since you've self-selected yourself as an expert, I have a queery. Was
my copyright trolling up to acceptable performance levels in the Landis
thread? I know I didn't start the thread, but I think I hijacked it
pretty well.

I hadn't known JFT had hissy-fits about copying until Kaptain Dondo
mentioned it in rbr obsessions, since I almost never open JFT's posts.
So I googled it, and sure enough, John had pee'd his pants about
copyright in the past day or two (back then), and there were piles of
similar postings.

PS: I noticed on rsplastic, you have a better head of hair than Hank,
although I quickly got off to other site images.

PS: When I say "got off," I don't mean,... well you can figure it out.
Not that there would be anything wrong with that.

  #90  
Old October 28th 06, 12:09 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides,rec.bicycles.misc
SLAVE of THE STATE
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Dan Gregory wrote:
Ghost of Chicago Stadium wrote:
The majority of America has elected George Bush twice.


Isn't that open to some debate?


Insert any presidents name and it would be wrong.

Again, there is nothing special about Bush. What all the demopublican
asswipes are blowing so much hot air about is nothing.

 




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