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Old July 1st 20, 07:10 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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Default Black cyclist stopped by London cop for "anti-social behaviour"including not wearing helmet, number plate or hi-viz

More clueless police!
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A video posted to Twitter shows a Metropolitan Police officer accusing a cyclist of “anti-social behaviour” because, among other things, he was not wearing a helmet, hi-viz clothing or displaying a licence plate on his bike, none of which is a legal requirement – leading Twitter users to question whether he may have been stopped simply because he is black.

The officer told the cyclist he had been stopped for “Anti-social behaviour, okay?”

The cyclist asked, “Does this look like anti-social behaviour to you?”

In reply, the officer said: “Well, the way you’re cycling around, at the moment you’re in and out of the road, on the pavement, on the road, not wearing a [mumbled], not wearing a helmet, not got your licence plate, not got your hi-viz … ”

“So everyone who’s not wearing a helmet, it’s anti-social behaviour when riding a bike?” the cyclist responded.

That last point seemed to throw the police officer, who seems to say, “Did I say that?” with the camera zooming in on her rather perplexed face before the footage cut out.

While the Highway Code recommends that cyclists should wear a helmet “ a cycle helmet which conforms to current regulations, is the correct size and securely fastened,” and “light-coloured or fluorescent clothing which helps other road users to see you in daylight and poor light,” there is no legal requirement to do so.

Calls for cyclists to be licensed have consistently been rejected by the government, and where such systems have been tried, more often than not they have been abandoned due to the cost and effort involved in implementing them – especially when resources are better directed to policing motorists, who are responsible for the vast majority of road traffic casualties.

And while pavement cycling is technically illegal, official guidance for more than two decades now is that police should exercise their discretion, and not take action against those who do not endanger people using the footway.

On a street on which the only other people present appear to be the half-dozen or so police officers, it’s unclear who the cyclist has put at risk here.

A number of people replying to the tweet suggested that the reason the bike rider was stopped had nothing to do with the way he was riding or what he was wearing, and was down to the colour of his skin, with these being a couple of the responses.

CONTINUES ONLINE

Earlier this week, it emerged that a black 13-year-old boy undertaking a charity bike ride in east London with his father was pushed off his bike by a plainclothes police officer.

Both father and son were handcuffed before being released, with officers having incorrectly suspected them of having been involved in a stabbing in a nearby park.

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Old July 2nd 20, 01:22 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Black cyclist stopped by London cop for "anti-social behaviour"including not wearing helmet, number plate or hi-viz

On 01/07/2020 19:10, Simon Mason wrote:
More clueless police!
QUOTE:
A video posted to Twitter shows a Metropolitan Police officer accusing a cyclist of “anti-social behaviour” because, among other things, he was not wearing a helmet, hi-viz clothing or displaying a licence plate on his bike, none of which is a legal requirement – leading Twitter users to question whether he may have been stopped simply because he is black.

The officer told the cyclist he had been stopped for “Anti-social behaviour, okay?”

The cyclist asked, “Does this look like anti-social behaviour to you?”

In reply, the officer said: “Well, the way you’re cycling around, at the moment you’re in and out of the road, on the pavement, on the road, not wearing a [mumbled], not wearing a helmet, not got your licence plate, not got your hi-viz … ”

“So everyone who’s not wearing a helmet, it’s anti-social behaviour when riding a bike?” the cyclist responded.

That last point seemed to throw the police officer, who seems to say, “Did I say that?” with the camera zooming in on her rather perplexed face before the footage cut out.

While the Highway Code recommends that cyclists should wear a helmet “ a cycle helmet which conforms to current regulations, is the correct size and securely fastened,” and “light-coloured or fluorescent clothing which helps other road users to see you in daylight and poor light,” there is no legal requirement to do so.

Calls for cyclists to be licensed have consistently been rejected by the government, and where such systems have been tried, more often than not they have been abandoned due to the cost and effort involved in implementing them – especially when resources are better directed to policing motorists, who are responsible for the vast majority of road traffic casualties.

And while pavement cycling is technically illegal, official guidance for more than two decades now is that police should exercise their discretion, and not take action against those who do not endanger people using the footway.

On a street on which the only other people present appear to be the half-dozen or so police officers, it’s unclear who the cyclist has put at risk here.

A number of people replying to the tweet suggested that the reason the bike rider was stopped had nothing to do with the way he was riding or what he was wearing, and was down to the colour of his skin, with these being a couple of the responses.

CONTINUES ONLINE

Earlier this week, it emerged that a black 13-year-old boy undertaking a charity bike ride in east London with his father was pushed off his bike by a plainclothes police officer.

Both father and son were handcuffed before being released, with officers having incorrectly suspected them of having been involved in a stabbing in a nearby park.

https://road.cc/content/news/met-off...e-plate-275073


Cycling on the pavement [sic] is DEFINITELY anti-social.

Being black is no excuse for that. It's just as dangerous (or, as TMS320
would have it, "disadvantageous") to pedestrians no matter what colour
the law-breaking cyclist is.
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Old July 2nd 20, 09:40 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Black cyclist stopped by London cop for "anti-social behaviour" including not wearing helmet, number plate or hi-viz

On 02/07/2020 01:22, JNugent wrote:

Being black is no excuse for that. It's just as dangerous (or, as TMS320
would have it, "disadvantageous") to pedestrians no matter what colour
the law-breaking cyclist is.


If you're going to quote somebody, get it right!
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Old July 2nd 20, 01:05 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_12_]
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Default Black cyclist stopped by London cop for "anti-social behaviour" including not wearing helmet, number plate or hi-viz

On 02/07/2020 09:40, TMS320 wrote:

On 02/07/2020 01:22, JNugent wrote:

Being black is no excuse for that. It's just as dangerous (or, as
TMS320 would have it, "disadvantageous") to pedestrians no matter what
colour the law-breaking cyclist is.


If you're going to quote somebody, get it right!


My quote of your term was 100% accurate.
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Old July 2nd 20, 02:17 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Black cyclist stopped by London cop for "anti-social behaviour"including not wearing helmet, number plate or hi-viz

On 02/07/2020 13:05, JNugent wrote:
On 02/07/2020 09:40, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/07/2020 01:22, JNugent wrote:

Being black is no excuse for that. It's just as dangerous (or, as
TMS320 would have it, "disadvantageous") to pedestrians no matter
what colour the law-breaking cyclist is.


If you're going to quote somebody, get it right!


My quote of your term was 100% accurate.


Unlike you, I do know how to set up a sent folder.
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Old July 2nd 20, 05:46 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Black cyclist stopped by London cop for "anti-social behaviour" including not wearing helmet, number plate or hi-viz

On 02/07/2020 14:17, TMS320 wrote:

On 02/07/2020 13:05, JNugent wrote:
On 02/07/2020 09:40, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/07/2020 01:22, JNugent wrote:

Being black is no excuse for that. It's just as dangerous (or, as
TMS320 would have it, "disadvantageous") to pedestrians no matter
what colour the law-breaking cyclist is.

If you're going to quote somebody, get it right!


My quote of your term was 100% accurate.


Unlike you, I do know how to set up a sent folder.


My quote of your term was 100% accurate.

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Old July 2nd 20, 07:26 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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Default Black cyclist stopped by London cop for "anti-social behaviour"including not wearing helmet, number plate or hi-viz

On 02/07/2020 17:46, JNugent wrote:
On 02/07/2020 14:17, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/07/2020 13:05, JNugent wrote:
On 02/07/2020 09:40, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/07/2020 01:22, JNugent wrote:

Being black is no excuse for that. It's just as dangerous (or, as
TMS320 would have it, "disadvantageous") to pedestrians no matter
what colour the law-breaking cyclist is.

If you're going to quote somebody, get it right!

My quote of your term was 100% accurate.


Unlike you, I do know how to set up a sent folder.


My quote of your term was 100% accurate.


You're also numerically illiterate.
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Old July 2nd 20, 07:42 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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Default Black cyclist stopped by London cop for "anti-social behaviour"including not wearing helmet, number plate or hi-viz

On Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 7:26:32 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:


You're also numerically illiterate.


AKA : innumerate.
  #9  
Old July 2nd 20, 08:12 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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Default Black cyclist stopped by London cop for "anti-social behaviour"including not wearing helmet, number plate or hi-viz

On 02/07/2020 19:42, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 7:26:32 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:

You're also numerically illiterate.


AKA : innumerate.


That too.
  #10  
Old July 3rd 20, 02:00 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_12_]
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Default Black cyclist stopped by London cop for "anti-social behaviour"including not wearing helmet, number plate or hi-viz

On 02/07/2020 19:26, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/07/2020 17:46, JNugent wrote:
On 02/07/2020 14:17, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/07/2020 13:05, JNugent wrote:
On 02/07/2020 09:40, TMS320 wrote:
On 02/07/2020 01:22, JNugent wrote:

Being black is no excuse for that. It's just as dangerous (or, as
TMS320 would have it, "disadvantageous") to pedestrians no matter
what colour the law-breaking cyclist is.

If you're going to quote somebody, get it right!

My quote of your term was 100% accurate.

Unlike you, I do know how to set up a sent folder.


My quote of your term was 100% accurate.


You're also numerically illiterate.


....whatever that might mean inside your head.

My quote of your term was 100% accurate.

Wasn't it?

 




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