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Ohio community's radar sign warns speedy cyclists
BEACHWOOD, Ohio (AP) - Police in a Cleveland suburb are using radar to fight
speeding on bicycles. People who walk the paths in Beachwood City Park have been complaining about bicyclists who fly by, Lance Armstrong-style, so police have posted a radar sign to show bikers how fast they're going. It's similar to the digitized signs that warn motorists about their speeds through construction zones. The sign typically catches riders going more than 10 mph, the city's speed limit for bicycles in the park. Police don't give out speeding tickets to bicyclists but do warn them to slow it down. Some riders say the radar sign may encourage more speeding, because bikers who want to race now have a way to see their top speeds. --- Information from: The Plain Dealer, http://www.cleveland.com http://www.local12.com/news/state/st...lAumwzNWg.cspx |
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Ohio community's radar sign warns speedy cyclists
Garrison Hilliard wrote:
BEACHWOOD, Ohio (AP) - Police in a Cleveland suburb are using radar to fight speeding on bicycles. People who walk the paths in Beachwood City Park have been complaining about bicyclists who fly by, Lance Armstrong-style, so police have posted a radar sign to show bikers how fast they're going. It's similar to the digitized signs that warn motorists about their speeds through construction zones. The sign typically catches riders going more than 10 mph, the city's speed limit for bicycles in the park. Police don't give out speeding tickets to bicyclists but do warn them to slow it down. Some riders say the radar sign may encourage more speeding, because bikers who want to race now have a way to see their top speeds. --- Information from: The Plain Dealer, http://www.cleveland.com http://www.local12.com/news/state/st...lAumwzNWg.cspx Right. Put some facial recognition software and snap a picture of anyone doing over 10 MPH and watch them laugh when the ticket comes in the mail. I ride people trails/paths at about 6 MPH down to my balance limit of about 3 MPH and the people walking are totally friendly with me at that speed. I was riding a trail when some guy blasted past me at about 20 MPH and I decided to chase him down and chew him out but he got away by diving down a forgotten paved off ramp I had not used for years. I can hit about 25-27 MPH on the mountain bike but not for a long time. Cadence and 60 years catch up to me but the adrenaline works long enough to catch all but the fastest. I had been stopped and looking at some power grid stuff and he just ****ed me off since he is the kind that would get bikes banned. Bill Baka |
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On Aug 27, 12:58*am, Garrison Hilliard wrote:
BEACHWOOD, Ohio (AP) - Police in a Cleveland suburb are using radar to fight speeding on bicycles. People who walk the paths in Beachwood City Park have been complaining about bicyclists who fly by, Lance Armstrong-style, so police have posted a radar sign to show bikers how fast they're going. It's similar to the digitized signs that warn motorists about their speeds through construction zones. The sign typically catches riders going more than 10 mph, the city's speed limit for bicycles in the park. Police don't give out speeding tickets to bicyclists but do warn them to slow it down. Some riders say the radar sign may encourage more speeding, because bikers who want to race now have a way to see their top speeds. 10 MPH....? Is this some kind of ultra-narrow MUP or something? Heh, just like driving on highways around here, I'd *have* to have a speedometer on my bike to make sure I was riding slowly enough for the local gendarmes... nate |
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Ohio community's radar sign warns speedy cyclists
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:18:06 -0700, N8N wrote
(in article ): I'd *have* to have a speedometer on my bike... That's probably why they aren't handing out tickets: without requiring speedo's, the law cannot effect speed limits. Won't hold up in a court. Possibly "reckless driving" (or riding?) might, or "endangering pedestrians"... |
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Ohio community's radar sign warns speedy cyclists
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 04:58:19 +0000, Garrison Hilliard
wrote: Some riders say the radar sign may encourage more speeding, because bikers who want to race now have a way to see their top speeds. I know what I've always done whenever I've encountered one of these on the road. ;-) -- jeverett3ATsbcglobalDOTnet (John V. Everett) |
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Ohio community's radar sign warns speedy cyclists
On Aug 27, 12:58*am, Garrison Hilliard wrote:
BEACHWOOD, Ohio (AP) - Police in a Cleveland suburb are using radar to fight speeding on bicycles. People who walk the paths in Beachwood City Park have been complaining about bicyclists who fly by, Lance Armstrong-style, so police have posted a radar sign to show bikers how fast they're going. It's similar to the digitized signs that warn motorists about their speeds through construction zones. The sign typically catches riders going more than 10 mph, the city's speed limit for bicycles in the park. People should think about this before they lobby in favor of a "bike path." BTW, does this speed limit apply only to bicyclists? Would they hassle a runner? 10 mph's a six minute mile, and good runners can do that pace for quite a while. Even a casual jogger can exceed that at least in a short sprint. And exceeding 10 mph is no problem for a roller blader, who does it with no effective brakes. - Frank Krygowski |
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Ohio community's radar sign warns speedy cyclists
RonSonic wrote:
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 07:35:50 -0700, Fester Bestertester wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 06:18:06 -0700, N8N wrote (in article ): I'd *have* to have a speedometer on my bike... That's probably why they aren't handing out tickets: without requiring speedo's, the law cannot effect speed limits. Won't hold up in a court. Why? You don't have a breathalyzer in your car, but they'll pull you for driving drunk. And the ticket will state your measured BAC. Possibly "reckless driving" (or riding?) might, or "endangering pedestrians"... In my town there are MUPs for fast riding and there are MUPs for families walking the dog. They all have the same signage and published rules, but practice is policy and when in Rome and all that. I ride according to the circumstances and local custom. The people I see who don't are usually pretty obviously tri-dorks. I rode a new 'bicycle path' once in 1972 and nearly crashed where its cute radii passed between oaks. I rode one again in 1999 (at insistence of companion) and scared the crap out of a mother with baby carriage after cresting a rise. Twice on 'bike paths' was plenty for one lifetime. I'll ride streets, thanks, as I have at least a fighting chance with the buses, wrong-way bicycles, drunks and text-addled minivan pilots. 'name your poison', i.e., YMMV -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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Ohio community's radar sign warns speedy cyclists
Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Aug 27, 12:58 am, Garrison Hilliard wrote: BEACHWOOD, Ohio (AP) - Police in a Cleveland suburb are using radar to fight speeding on bicycles. People who walk the paths in Beachwood City Park have been complaining about bicyclists who fly by, Lance Armstrong-style, so police have posted a radar sign to show bikers how fast they're going. It's similar to the digitized signs that warn motorists about their speeds through construction zones. The sign typically catches riders going more than 10 mph, the city's speed limit for bicycles in the park. People should think about this before they lobby in favor of a "bike path." BTW, does this speed limit apply only to bicyclists? Would they hassle a runner? 10 mph's a six minute mile, and good runners can do that pace for quite a while. Even a casual jogger can exceed that at least in a short sprint. And exceeding 10 mph is no problem for a roller blader, who does it with no effective brakes. - Frank Krygowski For what it's worth, I can still hit 15 MPH on a short sprint of 50 to 100 yards at 60. Jogger? Not me, I just break into a run at random while walking and not riding. I've been trying to teach my 8 year old grandson to run on the balls of his feet and not his heels like a jogger but he is hopeless. That's why I don't 'Jog', since they almost all run landing on their heels and then bitch about shin splints. Bicycling has given me a good perspective on having good calve muscles. Even any sane runner will slow down on a blind spot since it is easier for a runner to change speeds than a cyclist. Bill Baka |
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Ohio community's radar sign warns speedy cyclists
The problem with trails/paths is that they make rules and signage too
confusing. The signs should simply say "All trail users keep right". Nothings worse than riding along and having idiots walking side by side or runners going on the wrong side.. On Aug 27, 1:50*am, Bill Baka wrote: Put some facial recognition software and snap a picture of anyone doing over 10 MPH and watch them laugh when the ticket comes in the mail. I ride people trails/paths at about 6 MPH down to my balance limit of about 3 MPH and the people walking are totally friendly with me at that speed. I was riding a trail when some guy blasted past me at about 20 MPH and I decided to chase him down and chew him out but he got away by diving down a forgotten paved off ramp I had not used for years. I can hit about 25-27 MPH on the mountain bike but not for a long time. Cadence and 60 years catch up to me but the adrenaline works long enough to catch all but the fastest. I had been stopped and looking at some power grid stuff and he just ****ed me off since he is the kind that would get bikes banned. Bill Baka- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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Ohio community's radar sign warns speedy cyclists
Big Jim wrote:
The problem with trails/paths is that they make rules and signage too confusing. The signs should simply say "All trail users keep right". Nothings worse than riding along and having idiots walking side by side or runners going on the wrong side.. This guy must have thought he was Iron man material or something since the off ramp he ditched me at I stopped using after almost eating a truck at 25 MPH. He just went around at about that speed, having picked up about 5 MPH on the down ramp. I may be reading his obituary soon the way he was riding, and no helmet either. Me, I stop and smell the roses when I ride. It isn't *ALL* about the speed. Bill Baka On Aug 27, 1:50 am, Bill Baka wrote: Put some facial recognition software and snap a picture of anyone doing over 10 MPH and watch them laugh when the ticket comes in the mail. I ride people trails/paths at about 6 MPH down to my balance limit of about 3 MPH and the people walking are totally friendly with me at that speed. I was riding a trail when some guy blasted past me at about 20 MPH and I decided to chase him down and chew him out but he got away by diving down a forgotten paved off ramp I had not used for years. I can hit about 25-27 MPH on the mountain bike but not for a long time. Cadence and 60 years catch up to me but the adrenaline works long enough to catch all but the fastest. I had been stopped and looking at some power grid stuff and he just ****ed me off since he is the kind that would get bikes banned. Bill Baka- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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