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Old August 4th 04, 01:22 PM
Richard Bates
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On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 13:24:04 +0100, in ,
Tony Raven wrote:

Quote from website:
Most motorists are not aware of what the lanes mean."


I think that is inexcusable.

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Old August 4th 04, 01:24 PM
Tony Raven
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Article in last night Evening Standard:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/traffi...ing%20Standard

Fines war on drivers blocking cycle lanes
By David Williams, Evening Standard Motoring Editor
3 August 2004

Motorists face a major new fines campaign in plans to protect London's
560 miles of cycle lanes.

Drivers who are caught parking, blocking or driving in the lanes will be
fined £100.

Record numbers of fines in the capital are expected as a result.

Last year, the boroughs issued 5.3 million penalties for parking and
bus-lane infringements with a face value of £482million.

This figure will be boosted by at least £5 million with the recent
introduction of fines for yellow box misuse, and a further ?5million
when cycle lane fines come into force next year.

The news was welcomed by pro-cycling campaigners.

They say motorists who ignore cycle lanes force riders to negotiate an
"obstacle course", often with lethal results.

Kevin Mayne, of the national cyclists' organisation CTC, said it
welcomed the enforcement. He predicted it would encourage more cycling
in the capital and benefit all road users.

He said: "Poor parking not only contributes to congestion but makes the
roads more dangerous for pedestrians and cyclists, including children.
Any measures that help encourage even more Londoners to take to their
bicycles should be encouraged."

But Kevin Delaney, of the RAC Foundation, said: "If the councils are to
start fines they should review where the lanes are sited. Some are on
parts of the road that are so narrow it is impossible not to stray into
them. Councils must also mount an effective publicity campaign first.
Most motorists are not aware of what the lanes mean."

Nick Lester, Transport and Environment Director for the Association of
London Government, which will implement the new system, said: "It makes
no sense to have miles of cycle lanes and yet not have them enforced."

When the system is in place it will be the first time cyclelane offences
have been monitored-Motorists may be caught on camera or by parking
attendants.

Proceeds will go to the councils and Transport for London.

Enforcement of cycle lanes was the responsibility of the police but
tackling offenders involves time- consuming court cases.

There are two types of cycle lane in London: drivers must keep out of
those marked with a solid white line but they can stray into "advisory"
lanes marked by a broken white line.
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Old August 4th 04, 01:41 PM
Adrian Boliston
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"Tony Raven" wrote in message
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Drivers who are caught parking, blocking or driving in the lanes will be
fined £100.


If they drive in the lanes it will at least clear some of the glass
fragments that we are forced to endure.


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Old August 4th 04, 03:19 PM
David Hansen
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On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 13:24:04 +0100 someone who may be Tony Raven
wrote this:-

But Kevin Delaney, of the RAC Foundation, said: "[snip]
Councils must also mount an effective publicity campaign first.
Most motorists are not aware of what the lanes mean."


An interesting concept. I wonder what else he would apply it to.


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Old August 4th 04, 03:52 PM
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"Tony Raven" wrote in message
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But Kevin Delaney, of the RAC Foundation, said: "If the councils are to
start fines they should review where the lanes are sited. Some are on
parts of the road that are so narrow it is impossible not to stray into
them. Councils must also mount an effective publicity campaign first.
Most motorists are not aware of what the lanes mean."


So the pictogram of a bicycle is not sufficient of a hint for the poor
dears?

T


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Old August 4th 04, 04:10 PM
Simon Mason
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"Tony Raven" wrote in message
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Article in last night Evening Standard:


http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/traffi...ing%20Standard

Fines war on drivers blocking cycle lanes
By David Williams, Evening Standard Motoring Editor
3 August 2004

Motorists face a major new fines campaign in plans to protect London's
560 miles of cycle lanes.

Drivers who are caught parking, blocking or driving in the lanes will be
fined £100.


I thought if there were no yellow lines associated with the lanes, car
drivers can park in them quite legally.

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Old August 4th 04, 04:37 PM
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"Simon Mason" wrote in message
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I thought if there were no yellow lines associated with the lanes, car
drivers can park in them quite legally.


Only in 'advisory' lanes (with broken lines). Motorists are not allowed
into 'mandatory' cycle lanes so cannot park there.

Well, that's the theory.

T


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Old August 4th 04, 04:50 PM
Simon Mason
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"Tony W" wrote in message
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"Simon Mason" wrote in message
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I thought if there were no yellow lines associated with the lanes, car
drivers can park in them quite legally.


Only in 'advisory' lanes (with broken lines). Motorists are not allowed
into 'mandatory' cycle lanes so cannot park there.



I thought that mandatory cycle lanes were always backed up with yellow
lines like these:
http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.mason/J11.JPG

and advisory lanes have no yellow lines like this.
http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.mason/chants.jpg

and are therefore OK to park on, so I can't see what is new about this
London scheme; it's just doing people for parking on yellow lines, unless
there are cycle lanes with solid white lines and no yellows, which I have
not come across.

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Old August 4th 04, 05:17 PM
Alan Braggins
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In article , Simon Mason wrote:
"Tony Raven" wrote in message

Drivers who are caught parking, blocking or driving in the lanes will be
fined £100.


I thought if there were no yellow lines associated with the lanes, car
drivers can park in them quite legally.


http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/22.shtml
215 You MUST NOT stop or park on
.....
. a bus, tram or cycle lane during its period of operation
.....
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Old August 4th 04, 05:21 PM
Simon Mason
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"Paul Rudin" wrote in message
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"Cycle lanes. These are shown by road markings and signs. You MUST
NOT drive or park in a cycle lane marked by a solid white line during
its times of operation...."


Indeed, but do any cycle lanes marked by a solid white line exist which
don't have yellow lines? If not, then there is no clampdown on parking in
cycle lanes as such. I *would* be surprised if London was clamping down on
parking in unbroken lined cycle lanes, but I don't think they can.

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