Compulsory Motorways

We were cycling here on Pagan Midwinter Festival day



Side by side in accordance with the Highway Code.
A motorist told us we were in the middle of the road.

Motorist hypocrisy never ceases to amaze.

On 27/12/2019 14:59, Simon Jester wrote:

We were cycling here on Pagan Midwinter Festival day



Side by side in accordance with the Highway Code.
A motorist told us we were in the middle of the road.

Motorist hypocrisy never ceases to amaze.

Except the drivers who also cycle, they understand cyclists.

--
Bod

On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 6:51:07 PM UTC, Bod wrote:
On 27/12/2019 14:59, Simon Jester wrote:

We were cycling here on Pagan Midwinter Festival day



Side by side in accordance with the Highway Code.
A motorist told us we were in the middle of the road.

Motorist hypocrisy never ceases to amaze.

Except the drivers who also cycle, they understand cyclists.

--
Bod

The point is we were cycling next to a motorway. We are told cyclists should use cycleways where available so why wasn't the motorist on the motorway?

On 27/12/2019 19:04, Simon Jester wrote:

The point is we were cycling next to a motorway. We are told cyclists should use cycleways where available so why wasn't the motorist on the motorway?

erm it doesn't go to where he wants, maybe he is scared of motorways
maybe... Could be lots of reasons he doesn't want to use the Motorway .

There is a 'mixed use path' near to me but it meanders along a river; OK
if you have all day, it's dry etc, but if you just want to pop along to
the next village it is much quicker and easier (less dog walkers too) to
just zip along the road. I have never been maligned for using this road
(A70) rather than the 'mixed use path' (Water of Leith walkway) .

What I have experienced is people 'saying' I should use bike lanes
when supplied . But these lanes are not always 'fit for purpose' being
really narrow, leading you into situations that are more dangerous than
using the lane properly etc.

On Monday, December 30, 2019 at 10:59:17 AM UTC, soup wrote:
On 27/12/2019 19:04, Simon Jester wrote:

The point is we were cycling next to a motorway. We are told cyclists should use cycleways where available so why wasn't the motorist on the motorway?

erm it doesn't go to where he wants, maybe he is scared of motorways
maybe... Could be lots of reasons he doesn't want to use the Motorway .

There is a 'mixed use path' near to me but it meanders along a river; OK
if you have all day, it's dry etc, but if you just want to pop along to
the next village it is much quicker and easier (less dog walkers too) to
just zip along the road. I have never been maligned for using this road
(A70) rather than the 'mixed use path' (Water of Leith walkway) .

What I have experienced is people 'saying' I should use bike lanes
when supplied . But these lanes are not always 'fit for purpose' being
really narrow, leading you into situations that are more dangerous than
using the lane properly etc.

Exactly the point. Cyclists are expected to use cycle facilities even when they are dangerous and inconvenient yet motorists can chose to use motorways as it suits them.

On 27/12/2019 14:59, Simon Jester wrote:

We were cycling here on Pagan Midwinter Festival day

Is that relevant to what follows?





Side by side in accordance with the Highway Code.

You were on a single lane B road, going far slower than the other motor
traffic on that road normally goes. Surely, whatever your rights are,
you can see that that is going to cause inconvenience and possibly
annoyance to other road users?

Nobody is suggesting you should not cycle there, but if you cycle in
single file, it is much easier for other traffic to pass you safely.



A motorist told us we were in the middle of the road.

Motorist hypocrisy never ceases to amaze.

On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 10:05:02 PM UTC, GB wrote:
On 27/12/2019 14:59, Simon Jester wrote:

We were cycling here on Pagan Midwinter Festival day

Is that relevant to what follows?





Side by side in accordance with the Highway Code.

You were on a single lane B road, going far slower than the other motor
traffic on that road normally goes. Surely, whatever your rights are,
you can see that that is going to cause inconvenience and possibly
annoyance to other road users?

Nobody is suggesting you should not cycle there, but if you cycle in
single file, it is much easier for other traffic to pass you safely.



You miss the point.
The motorist could have used the parallel motorway and there would have been no problem.

On 27/12/2019 23:40, Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 10:05:02 PM UTC, GB wrote:
On 27/12/2019 14:59, Simon Jester wrote:

We were cycling here on Pagan Midwinter Festival day

Is that relevant to what follows?





Side by side in accordance with the Highway Code.

You were on a single lane B road, going far slower than the other motor
traffic on that road normally goes. Surely, whatever your rights are,
you can see that that is going to cause inconvenience and possibly
annoyance to other road users?

Nobody is suggesting you should not cycle there, but if you cycle in
single file, it is much easier for other traffic to pass you safely.



You miss the point.
The motorist could have used the parallel motorway and there would have been no problem.



That must count as the daftest point of 2019. Perhaps he's not going
that way? Why should he be banned from a B road? Above all, you were the
one at risk, not him.

GB wrote:
On 27/12/2019 23:40, Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 10:05:02 PM UTC, GB wrote:
On 27/12/2019 14:59, Simon Jester wrote:

We were cycling here on Pagan Midwinter Festival day

Is that relevant to what follows?





Side by side in accordance with the Highway Code.

You were on a single lane B road, going far slower than the other
motor traffic on that road normally goes. Surely, whatever your
rights are, you can see that that is going to cause inconvenience
and possibly annoyance to other road users?

Nobody is suggesting you should not cycle there, but if you cycle in
single file, it is much easier for other traffic to pass you safely.



You miss the point.
The motorist could have used the parallel motorway and there would
have been no problem.


That must count as the daftest point of 2019. Perhaps he's not going
that way? Why should he be banned from a B road? Above all, you were
the one at risk, not him.

The stupidity of the cyclist cannot be underestimated.

On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 3:46:18 PM UTC, GB wrote:
On 27/12/2019 23:40, Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 10:05:02 PM UTC, GB wrote:
On 27/12/2019 14:59, Simon Jester wrote:

We were cycling here on Pagan Midwinter Festival day

Is that relevant to what follows?





Side by side in accordance with the Highway Code.

You were on a single lane B road, going far slower than the other motor
traffic on that road normally goes. Surely, whatever your rights are,
you can see that that is going to cause inconvenience and possibly
annoyance to other road users?

Nobody is suggesting you should not cycle there, but if you cycle in
single file, it is much easier for other traffic to pass you safely.



You miss the point.
The motorist could have used the parallel motorway and there would have been no problem.



That must count as the daftest point of 2019. Perhaps he's not going
that way? Why should he be banned from a B road? Above all, you were the
one at risk, not him.

Thank you for proving my point. The subsidised road user chose to put paying road users at risk rather than using the motorway.