Global Warming

So then Nova has a program telling us that the Sun is actually cooling off.
I wonder how long before we're hearing cries of GLOBAL COOLING again?

Can you say, normal cyclic variations?

"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote in message
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So then Nova has a program telling us that the Sun is actually cooling
off. I wonder how long before we're hearing cries of GLOBAL COOLING again?

Can you say, normal cyclic variations?

Tom: What was the length of the cooling sun cycle Nova spoke of? As in, is
this something we have to worry about in the next 500 years, or 5,000?

Over the short term, the only periodic fluctuations in sun activity that I'm
aware of involve sunspots, and that's what, a 7 or 14-year cycle? Too short
to be a contributing factor to a moderately long-term climate trend. For sun
"cooling" to be a factor, regarding global warming as currently discussed,
I'd think we'd be discussing cycles of maybe 50-500 years. Was that the
case?

Or was it even a "cycle" they were talking about? If it's just a gradual
cooling trend, how does that fit in with "normal cyclic variations?"

Have you discussed any of this with Andre Jute?

Thanks-

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

"Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote in message
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"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote in message
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So then Nova has a program telling us that the Sun is actually cooling
off. I wonder how long before we're hearing cries of GLOBAL COOLING
again?

Can you say, normal cyclic variations?

Tom: What was the length of the cooling sun cycle Nova spoke of? As in, is
this something we have to worry about in the next 500 years, or 5,000?

Ted Turner was on TV this morning saying that within 40 years people will be
eating each other in a world turned into a horror story of global warming
with nature destroyed utterly.

On Apr 2, 7:35 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

Ted Turner was on TV this morning saying that within 40 years people will be
eating each other in a world turned into a horror story of global warming
with nature destroyed utterly.

Duh. He was just creating hype for a re-run of "Soylent Green"

Tom Kunich wrote:

Ted Turner was on TV this morning saying that within 40 years people
will be eating each other in a world turned into a horror story of
global warming with nature destroyed utterly.

wrote:
Duh. He was just creating hype for a re-run of "Soylent Green"

With Andouilette. Yummy.

On Apr 2, 7:35*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote in message

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"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote in message
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So then Nova has a program telling us that the Sun is actually cooling
off. I wonder how long before we're hearing cries of GLOBAL COOLING
again?

Can you say, normal cyclic variations?

Tom: What was the length of the cooling sun cycle Nova spoke of? As in, is
this something we have to worry about in the next 500 years, or 5,000?

Ted Turner was on TV this morning saying that within 40 years people will be
eating each other in a world turned into a horror story of global warming
with nature destroyed utterly.

Time for him to write the ELF another check.

http://www.cdfe.org/berman.htm

This doesn't happen according to Howard though. This must have been
perjury.
Bill C

"Bill C" wrote in message
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On Apr 2, 7:35 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
Ted Turner was on TV this morning saying that within 40 years people
will be
eating each other in a world turned into a horror story of global
warming
with nature destroyed utterly.

Time for him to write the ELF another check.

http://www.cdfe.org/berman.htm

This doesn't happen according to Howard though. This must have been
perjury.

Just so there's no mistake - Turner really DID say that the world average
temperature would be 8 degrees hotter and people in the United States would
be eating each other in about 40 years. He also implied that we ought to
kill off a lot of people because it is the population density which is the
problem....

In article ,
Bill C wrote:

On Apr 2, 7:35*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote in message

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"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote in message
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So then Nova has a program telling us that the Sun is actually cooling
off. I wonder how long before we're hearing cries of GLOBAL COOLING
again?

Can you say, normal cyclic variations?

Tom: What was the length of the cooling sun cycle Nova spoke of? As in, is
this something we have to worry about in the next 500 years, or 5,000?

Ted Turner was on TV this morning saying that within 40 years people will be
eating each other in a world turned into a horror story of global warming
with nature destroyed utterly.

Time for him to write the ELF another check.

http://www.cdfe.org/berman.htm

This doesn't happen according to Howard though. This must have been
perjury.

Where is Ted ****ing Turner's name in that, Bill??????????? How about MoveOn?
Because I MUST HAVE ****ING MISSED IT.

--
tanx,
Howard

Whatever happened to
Leon Trotsky?
He got an icepick
That made his ears burn.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

Howard Kveck wrote:
Where is Ted ****ing Turner's name in that, Bill??????????? How about
MoveOn?
Because I MUST HAVE ****ING MISSED IT.

Oy lets get this thread back on topic - we're supposed to be a global
warming group and if we start going off on a tangent the TOM9000 series
is going to have a segmentation fault trying to interpret the input.

According to the TOM9000 logic Asher should have responded with a
repudiation of the pseudo science in the link in the bots attempted troll.

On Apr 2, 10:38*pm, Howard Kveck wrote:
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*Bill C wrote:





On Apr 2, 7:35*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote in message

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"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote in message
om...
So then Nova has a program telling us that the Sun is actually cooling
off. I wonder how long before we're hearing cries of GLOBAL COOLING
again?

Can you say, normal cyclic variations?

Tom: What was the length of the cooling sun cycle Nova spoke of? As in, is
this something we have to worry about in the next 500 years, or 5,000?

Ted Turner was on TV this morning saying that within 40 years people will be
eating each other in a world turned into a horror story of global warming
with nature destroyed utterly.

Time for him to write the ELF another check.

http://www.cdfe.org/berman.htm

This doesn't happen according to Howard though. This must have been
perjury.

* *Where is Ted ****ing Turner's name in that, Bill??????????? How about MoveOn?
Because I MUST HAVE ****ING MISSED IT.

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* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * tanx,
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *Howard

* * * * * * * * * * * * Whatever happened to
* * * * * * * * * * * * Leon Trotsky?
* * * * * * * * * * * * He got an icepick
* * * * * * * * * * * * That made his ears burn.

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You ****ING MISSED IT!!!!!!
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An organization called the Ruckus Society was started by another Earth
First! co-founder named Mike Roselle. This group was largely
responsible for the 1999 anti-WTO protests in Seattle, which ended in
mass rioting and the destruction of Starbucks and McDonald's
restaurants. The Ruckus Society trains young activists in the
techniques of "monkeywrenching" which, when applied, result in
property crimes of enormous financial cost.

The Ruckus Society and the Rainforest Action Network (another outfit
founded by Mr. Roselle) are tax-exempt organization that have enjoyed
contributions from such mainstream sources as Ted Turner and Ben &
Jerry's. When will this breeding ground for environmental criminals be
held accountable?

Ruckus, by the way, also gets funding from a San Francisco outfit
called the Tides Foundation, which distributes other foundations'
money while shielding the identity of the actual donors. Our tax law
permits this sort of money-laundering. If the public is prevented from
learning where a tax-exempt organization like the Ruckus Society gets
their money, then the legal loopholes that permit foundations like
Tides to operate as it does should be closed.



Further extracted:

The Ruckus Society and the Rainforest Action Network (another outfit
founded by Mr. Roselle) are tax-exempt organization that have enjoyed
contributions from such mainstream sources as Ted Turner and Ben &
Jerry's.

Other citations:
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/09/13/3813/
http://www.activistcash.com/aboutUs.cfm

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?...reaking_ruckus
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its directors became stars of a sort, and its funding (previously from
staid foundations like the Robert F. Kennedy Center for Human Rights
and individual sponsors like Ted Turner) improved dramatically.

There was an idiot defending Cheney on one of the military boards
usingfg the argument that he bears NO responsibility for the Iraq war.
The reasoning was that ONLY the president has the legal authority to
make that decision so Cheney and the rest of the Neo-cons were NOT
responsible.
That's the same as trying to discuss politics with Howard, or Rove.
Yes I finally did get in the first ride other than running errands
in about 6 months. Tuesday, after getting the stitches out of my knee
the Thursday before. More torn cartilage, arthritis cleanup, a couple
of bone spurs to grind away in this one. I did our clubs first TT of
the season series. A roaring 10 miles into a 10 mph headwind in 42
minutes and 6 seconds. WhoooHooo.. Four percocets and a Soma in two
hours and I was still miserable, and pretty crippled afterward, but
it's a ****ing start....again. DFL as usual but at least I'm out there
again.
Bill C