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On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:04:33 -0700 (PDT), Kurgan Gringioni
wrote: On Apr 11, 6:52*am, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: "William Asher" wrote in message ... Remember, I'm here to help. So what do you drive again? Dumbass - You know what blows me away about some of you Deniers? You're all anti- wind energy and all that. I'm not anti-any-damn-thing other than most government subsidies, but that's just general politics, not just this case. I'm all for the research programs. Do those windmills no longer have piles of dead birds under them, or is that okay now. If the government made it policy, electricity would cost a little bit more, but the $$$ could go to equipment manufactured and installed by American companies and American workers. The oil? Oil money goes to places like Saudi Arabi, Iraq, Iran, Venezuela, Nigeria. Some of it probably goes from there to the pockets of various extremist groups with whom we've been in conflict. Ideology. It doesn't make sense. And neither will the Saudis once we start working the deposits we have here. |
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On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:09:21 -0700 (PDT), Kurgan Gringioni
wrote: On Apr 11, 12:43*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: "Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message ... On Apr 11, 6:52 am, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote: You know what blows me away about some of you Deniers? You're all anti- wind energy and all that. The real comedy is that you're so slow that no one here can slow their minds enough to comprehend what you're thinking. My brother used to work for Windpower, I've worked on alternative energy resources for companies in a commercial sense and as far back as 1974 I was having these same arguments in newspaper editorials that Solar and Wind wouldn't become practical until the AVAILABILITY of oil started becoming a problem. And gee, I was right and all those big-mouthed fools such a yourself were wrong. Yet again. If the government made it policy, electricity would cost a little bit more, but the $$$ could go to equipment manufactured and installed by American companies and American workers. The oil? Do you even understand what the hell you're talking about? Oil money goes to places like Saudi Arabi, Iraq, Iran, Venezuela, Nigeria. Some of it probably goes from there to the pockets of various extremist groups with whom we've been in conflict. What happens to those places when the oil runs out? Dumbass - When that starts happening, we better have alternative sources ready to go, right? Well . . . Bakken Formation. |
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On Apr 11, 3:31 pm, William Asher wrote:
Off to wax car, paint fence, sand deck. Tom Sawyer would be able to get someone else to paint the fence. |
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William Asher wrote:
Off to wax car A good idea if its wet a lot. |
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On Apr 11, 2:22*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message ... When that starts happening, we better have alternative sources ready to go, right? If you don't understand what's going on in the energy business why don't you actually go out and find out rather than listening to morons on the left? Dumbass - When all else fails, the ad hominem is inevitable. If we put more resources into finding alternative sources of energy (like Denmark which currently supplies 20% of electricity needs through wind and has a long term goal of 80%), we could be paying the Saudis, Iraqis and the Iranians $30/barrel (like we were 5 years ago) instead of $100/barrel. The supply/demand equation has gotten out of whack. The policy should be to wean ourselves from the Saudis/Iraqis/Iranians/Venezuelans. It's doable. The United States is capable of being the most innovative culture on the face of the planet if the leadership is there. thanks, K. Gringioni. |
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On Apr 11, 10:07 pm, Donald Munro wrote:
William Asher wrote: Off to wax car A good idea if its wet a lot. He's been riding it hard. |
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wrote in news:a9e8717a-52d8-4b0b-afee-
: On Apr 11, 10:07 pm, Donald Munro wrote: William Asher wrote: Off to wax car A good idea if its wet a lot. He's been riding it hard. Isn't the official rbr phrase: "pound it like there's no tomorrow"? http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...1a88c0c4067e01 -- Bill Asher |
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On Apr 10, 1:12*pm, William Asher wrote:
Bill C wrote: http://www.recorder.com/story.cfm?id_no=4985903 River at risk *BY RICHIE DAVIS RECORDER STAFF Published: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 AMHERST -- Climate change will reduce the availability of water in the Connecticut River in summer and increase sediment and pollution loads, according to a University of Massachusetts researcher. This would be a disaster for me personally anyway as the river and it's surroundings are up there with bicycles in my world, and the new house is right near the river, and on a pond that used to be part of the river. *Bill C http://www.mass.gov/dcr/parks/central/crgw.htm http://www.ctriver.org/ *http://www.portlandriversidemarina.c...er_raft_links/ Interesting story on the biofuel. *However, I think it is odd though that we put so much effort into finding ways to continue on with lifestyles that are inherently unsustainable. * I think decreased water in the Connecticut River is going to be the least of your worries in 15 years. *But then I am a Casandrist at heart, mainly because it goes so well with being a misanthropic secular nihilist. * Well, the bad news is that increased heavy rainfall in the Northeast may flood Bill's house. The good news is that we'll all be able to maintain our unsustainable lifestyles a bit longer by damming the river (hey, his house is already flooded, so who cares if it's submerged?) and shipping water and power here to Arizona, where we'll be dying of thirst and lack of power to run our A/C units, except for the fact that we'll have persuaded the Feds to let us steal Massachusetts's water. States' rights has a funny way of going out the window sometimes, and in 15 years, we may have more electoral votes, so the outcome is fore-ordained. Ben Forget SUVs, what we need is to ban golf courses in Scottsdale. |
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Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
If we put more resources into finding alternative sources of energy (like Denmark which currently supplies 20% of electricity needs through wind and has a long term goal of 80%), we could be paying the Saudis, Iraqis and the Iranians $30/barrel (like we were 5 years ago) instead of $100/barrel. Iceland would make a better example. 70% of energy from renewable sources and a long term goal of 100% energy independence by 2050. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceland#Energy |
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