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Chain / Sprocket Cleaning
"1013" == 1013 writes:
1013 I would like to remove my chain to clean it properly since 1013 there is a lot of build up of dirt and grime. I am pretty sure 1013 the chain is a Shimano chain and I have read that you need 1013 special tools to remove it. I physically shuddered looking at those pics. Eeyuck! I've not had to clean something quite so...dirty so can't offer advice there. I *can* tell you what I do to keep mine from ever getting like that though. My lube of choice is ProLink. On a cleaned chain I put a drop of oil on each rivet. Nowhere else, just the rivets. That's where the wear occurs, if you put lube all over the chain that will just attract dirt. I generally do this in the evening which allows gravity to do it's work overnight and pull the lube through the rivets. This helps pull embedded grit out from between the links. In the morning I wipe the chain down with a clean rag, removing any excess from the surface of the chain. From then on it's a case of rinse and repeat. I do this about every 150-200kms. Two or three minutes every 150-200 kms saves a lot of heartache. Every couple of weeks I take the rear wheel off and clean in between the cogs with a rag. If it rains I wipe down the chain with some paper towels and apply a bit of lube. Before going to the trouble of cleaning your chain you may want to check it for stretch. Dirty as it is I'm betting your chain's doing a passable impression of a torture victim on the rack. Previously posted links will tell you how to do that. If your chain's stretched forget about cleaning it and just get a new one. -- Cheers | ~~ __@ Euan | ~~ _-\, Melbourne, Australia | ~ (*)/ (*) |
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Chain / Sprocket Cleaning
1013 Wrote: I would like to remove my chain to clean it properly since there is lot o build up of dirt and grime. I am pretty sure the chain is a Shiman chai and I have read that you need special tools to remove it Is there a single rivet that needs to be removed or does every lin alon the chain use a rivet which can be removed? The problem is my chain i s dirty I cannot see a thing How much does the tool cost to remove the rivet? Are master links whic allow easy chain removal just as strong as rivets Thanks in advance Photos of the chain, etc http://users.bigpond.net.au/sk/mtb1.jp http://users.bigpond.net.au/sk/chain1.jp http://users.bigpond.net.au/sk/chain2.jp http://users.bigpond.net.au/sk/chain3.jpg wow... is there a society for the protection of cruelty to bikes? this is brilliant! I'm going to keep these pictures to show when he o *my bike is always so clean* comments on a bit of dust on one of m sweeties. brilliant... absolutely brilliant.. al -- alison_b |
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Chain / Sprocket Cleaning
Thanks for those instructions.
This is what I will do. "tony f" wrote in message ... I'd remove the chain using a chain breaker, then give it a thorough clean. My preferred method is to soak in kero, but other solvents may be better - petrol has more nasties and catches fire more easily, so avoid that. I know people who seal the chain and kero in a container, Put a load in the washing machine and tape the container to the lid, and put a load through the machine. All that vibration really gets the gunk out. I can't get away with that method, so just swoosh it around with my hands - should wear gloves. Empty the dirty kero, and repeat, until the kero stays clean (or very close). This means there's no more dirt on or in the chain. You can recycle the solvent buy filtering it into a container, and then allowing the grit to settle before transferring to a new container. It never gets completely clean, so I use the recycled stuff for the first couple of cleans - not rinses. To rejoin the chain, Shimano sell special joining pins (last time I bought one I think it was less than $2). They strongly recommend against reusing the pin you pushed out. Alternatively, buy a joiner link - SRAM, Craig Super Links, and others all work well. Now you can take the chain off and clean it regularly. I really like that feature of joining links. Allow the chain to dry, then relube with lube of your choice. I like wax lubes for their cleanliness, but find they can lead to squeaking chains quickly, so nowadays I use a combo wet/wax lube (White Lightning Extreme). Not as clean, but doesn't squeak as quickly. Wipe off excess lube. Ride. |
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Chain / Sprocket Cleaning
I will post "after" photos so you can see the huge difference. Like weight
watchers, lol. "alison_b" wrote in message ... 1013 Wrote: I would like to remove my chain to clean it properly since there is a lot of build up of dirt and grime. I am pretty sure the chain is a Shimano chain and I have read that you need special tools to remove it. Is there a single rivet that needs to be removed or does every link along the chain use a rivet which can be removed? The problem is my chain is so dirty I cannot see a thing. How much does the tool cost to remove the rivet? Are master links which allow easy chain removal just as strong as rivets? Thanks in advance. Photos of the chain, etc: http://users.bigpond.net.au/sk/mtb1.jpg http://users.bigpond.net.au/sk/chain1.jpg http://users.bigpond.net.au/sk/chain2.jpg http://users.bigpond.net.au/sk/chain3.jpg wow... is there a society for the protection of cruelty to bikes? this is brilliant! I'm going to keep these pictures to show when he of *my bike is always so clean* comments on a bit of dust on one of my sweeties. brilliant... absolutely brilliant... ali -- alison_b |
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Chain / Sprocket Cleaning
alison_b wrote:
snippo Photos of the chain, etc: http://users.bigpond.net.au/sk/mtb1.jpg http://users.bigpond.net.au/sk/chain1.jpg http://users.bigpond.net.au/sk/chain2.jpg http://users.bigpond.net.au/sk/chain3.jpg wow... is there a society for the protection of cruelty to bikes? this is brilliant! I'm going to keep these pictures to show when he of *my bike is always so clean* comments on a bit of dust on one of my sweeties. brilliant... absolutely brilliant... Oh dear - my standards must be tiny bit different. I thought it wasn't too bad. Pretty grotty but overall not too bad...:-) -- Humbug |
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Chain / Sprocket Cleaning
1013 wrote:
I would like to remove my chain to clean it properly since there is a lot of build up of dirt and grime. I am pretty sure the chain is a Shimano chain and I have read that you need special tools to remove it. Is there a single rivet that needs to be removed or does every link along the chain use a rivet which can be removed? The problem is my chain is so dirty I cannot see a thing. How much does the tool cost to remove the rivet? Are master links which allow easy chain removal just as strong as rivets? Thanks in advance. Photos of the chain, etc: http://users.bigpond.net.au/sk/mtb1.jpg http://users.bigpond.net.au/sk/chain1.jpg http://users.bigpond.net.au/sk/chain2.jpg http://users.bigpond.net.au/sk/chain3.jpg Greetings, Chain breakers are available from any good LBS and are cheap. My LBS seems to be wary of taking chains off for some reason. Take any rivet you like, they're all the same, but make sure you put it back correctly. Master links went out with Sturmey Archer hub gears, I remember those when I was a kid. I normally clean mine about every six months in kerosene, which is also cheap and the best stuff for the job. Regards, Ray. |
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Follow up
Just to follow up. I went to my LBS and asked them to have a look at my
bike. Apparently its not worth placing a joining link on my chain as the chain is nearing the end of its life (quite loose). The guy also felt that a joining link is not a great idea since it becomes a point of weakness in the chain. He said I will have to replace my chain and the cassette (since the cassette must mend togethor with the new chain) very soon? And not to leave it too late otherwise I will have to spend even more and replace the chain rings. As a temporary solution I bought some citrus degreaser and gave the chain and sprockets a good scrub. They are looking much better now. The guy at my LBS thought the on-bike chain cleaners are the best way to go. And to just replace your chain every 3 months or so (obviously depends on how much you ride). Thanks for all the advice. I now realise the importance of chain maintenance. I will post a couple of photos later if anyone is interested in the before/after. |
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