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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
:: Was making a right a few days back and looked to my left and saw it :: was clear so started making the turn. And theres a cyclist 20 feet :: away coming right towards me hugging the curb on his left side of the :: road. Didn't hit him but certainly could have. Cyclists do this a lot :: and i understand why - for them it is safer. It is not safer for them as you almost hit him. But i'm sure it's :: illegal. Also saw a cyclist run a red light to make a left hand turn :: with a cop stopped at the intersection. Cop did nothing. |
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote: Was making a right a few days back and looked to my left and saw it was clear so started making the turn. And theres a cyclist 20 feet away coming right towards me hugging the curb on his left side of the road. Didn't hit him but certainly could have. Cyclists do this a lot and i understand why - for them it is safer. Riding a bicycle on the wrong side of the road is much more dangerous (as well as being illegal in most places) than riding a bicycle with traffic. Also saw a cyclist run a red light to make a left hand turn with a cop stopped at the intersection. Cop did nothing. Generally, running red lights is risky. Although doing so at a left turn after waiting for opposing traffic to clear is less risky than most cases, since there is only one stream of conflicting traffic (and parallel pedestrian traffic) to check. Sometimes bicyclists have to do this due to signals that fail to detect bicycles (and it is often legal to treat an inoperative signal as a stop sign). But it is still better to tell the city to fix the sensor to detect bicycles. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Timothy J. Lee Unsolicited bulk or commercial email is not welcome. No warranty of any kind is provided with this message. |
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"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" wrote in message
om... Was making a right a few days back and looked to my left and saw it was clear so started making the turn. And theres a cyclist 20 feet away coming right towards me hugging the curb on his left side of the road. Didn't hit him but certainly could have. [...] I have just started riding in the US (originally from England where we ride on the right (sic) side of the road)! It amazes me, in Manhattan, how many delivery boys ride bikes up the wrong side of the road; no regard whatsoever for traffic lights or the flow of vehicles. I managed to avoid being mangled as a pedestrian; not sure how much success I shall have as a cyclist. Central Park is even more fun. We have 'Sunday drivers' in England, but it seems that the Park has spawned the two-wheel equivalent over here. On many occasions I have been riding around, only to encounter a couple (usually late thirties but groping each other like recalcitrant teenagers) happily careening around the whole road and against the traffic. Combined speed of impact would probably be around 40mph. The one advantage is that they invariably are NOT looking where they are going, which means we don't play hopscotch trying to avoid each other as our paths cross. I just cycle out to the right (the track is counter-clockwise with cars to one's right) and they pass by, oblivious in their libido-infused ecstasy. Still, I have in previous lives parted company with both bikes and motorbikes and it hurts like hell, even at 15mph. Someone should encourage these people at least to be aware that there is likely to be oncoming traffic. And then we have rollerbladers... Glm |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 13:30:43 -0400, Alex Rodriguez
wrote: In article , says... Was making a right a few days back and looked to my left and saw it was clear so started making the turn. And theres a cyclist 20 feet away coming right towards me hugging the curb on his left side of the road. Didn't hit him but certainly could have. Cyclists do this a lot and i understand why - for them it is safer. But i'm sure it's illegal. Also saw a cyclist run a red light to make a left hand turn with a cop stopped at the intersection. Cop did nothing. WRONG! It is not safer to ride against traffic. Hopefully this cyclist will figure out the error of his ways before he gets hurt, or causes seomeone else to get hurt. -------------- Alex This right way/wrong way is starting to sound like a religious war. I ride one road that requires me to ride wrong way in one direction. The road has a bike path on one side only, so I am right way going one direction, wrong way coming back. Why do I do this? Survival. The road is a country style road where everybody speeds because they know that the police rarely patrol there. There have been times where I have had to go into the dirt and would have been hit if I had been going the right way. I don't want to become road kill just to follow the law blindly. When in town or a housing development I ride the right way, so if there were no country roads I would be legal all the time. Just an opinion. Bill Baka -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 14:57:09 -0700, Bill Baka wrote:
I don't want to become road kill just to follow the law blindly. When in town or a housing development I ride the right way, so if there were no country roads I would be legal all the time. Just an opinion. Bill Baka Nothing we do can change your mind, obviously. I have the same bikepath/ road problem as you; four-lane highway, actually. The bikepath is on the right side on the way home, but the left (wrong) side on the way out. I take the road on the way out, every time. Why? 1) It's faster. 2) The wrong-way bikepath sets me up for unpleasant encounters with cross-traffic. Fine if you're moving slowly, like 9 mph. Not fine if you're tooling along at 15, 16, 17, 18 mph, or up to 32 (the hills aren't very steep here). I cannot overstate the cross-traffic hazard; a car wishing to turn right on to the roadway isn't looking for a bicycle coming at him from the wrong side on a sidepath, moving at 15-25 mph. He looks left to check for oncoming traffic, sees none, and drives out-- Into you. Several squealing-brake confrontations converted me from a bikepath-dweller to a road user. I have had no such trouble at intersections since I started following the law. -Luigi Go play in traffic! www.livejournal.com/users/ouij Photos, Rants, Raves |
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Luigi de Guzman wrote in part:
I cannot overstate the cross-traffic hazard; a car wishing to turn right on to the roadway isn't looking for a bicycle coming at him from the wrong side on a sidepath, moving at 15-25 mph. He looks left to check for oncoming traffic, sees none, and drives out-- Into you. Only if you're stupid enough to actually ride in front of a car with a driver who is looking the other direction and who is obviously preparing to pull out. Robert |
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"Laura Bush murdered her boy friend" wrote in message om... Was making a right a few days back and looked to my left and saw it was clear so started making the turn. And theres a cyclist 20 feet away coming right towards me hugging the curb on his left side of the road. Didn't hit him but certainly could have. Cyclists do this a lot and i understand why - for them it is safer. But i'm sure it's illegal. Also saw a cyclist run a red light to make a left hand turn with a cop stopped at the intersection. Cop did nothing. I'll be damned, I actually agree with something this idiot posted. I actually had contact with a bicycle that came down a hill fromn my right, against traffic and my weenie insurance company actually paid out a claim. Put a scratch in the front bumper of my 928, and bent the frame on his bike. Bernard |
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