Result of today's race

Nice and sunny but a bit of a chill. Not a particularly scenic route over
fairly flat landscape. Tp speed just 41kph. 60km in 3hr 9min so slightly
slower than the last race I mentioned. Perhaps not enough pints consumed at
lunch to top up the calories.

Fortunately today the air was not disturbed by some idiot with a horn (*).
Pleasant to report that on two occasions, when waiting to go straight across
crossroads on main roads, the drivers opposite, wanting to turn right,
caught my eye to let me go when the way had cleared.

Oh yes, I also encountered a traffic light on red and I was joined by two
other riders I wasn't associated with. So clear evidence that 100% percent
of cyclists wait. Though I admit I broke the law by going over the stop line
to make an informal ASL - but thereby avoiding delay to an important tax
paying car user by allowing it to reach the sensor.

(*) To that end, I have just discovered that Specsavers sell ear plugs with
a variety of characteristics. Now, should I go for music or motorbike...

On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 00:29:04 +0100
"TMS320" wrote:

(*) To that end, I have just discovered that Specsavers sell ear
plugs with a variety of characteristics. Now, should I go for music
or motorbike...

Music in one, motorbike in the other?

On 14/04/2014 00:29, TMS320 wrote:
Nice and sunny but a bit of a chill. Not a particularly scenic route over
fairly flat landscape. Tp speed just 41kph. 60km in 3hr 9min so slightly
slower than the last race I mentioned. Perhaps not enough pints consumed at
lunch to top up the calories.

Fortunately today the air was not disturbed by some idiot with a horn (*).
Pleasant to report that on two occasions, when waiting to go straight across
crossroads on main roads, the drivers opposite, wanting to turn right,
caught my eye to let me go when the way had cleared.

Oh yes, I also encountered a traffic light on red and I was joined by two
other riders I wasn't associated with. So clear evidence that 100% percent
of cyclists wait. Though I admit I broke the law by going over the stop line
to make an informal ASL - but thereby avoiding delay to an important tax
paying car user by allowing it to reach the sensor.

(*) To that end, I have just discovered that Specsavers sell ear plugs with
a variety of characteristics. Now, should I go for music or motorbike...


Suddenly losing one of your senses is one of the worst and most
dangerous things any road user can suffer, to do it voluntarily smacks
of stupidity.
The use of headphones by cyclists has been a factor in many crashes
leading to deaths or serious injuries.

So go right ahead.

"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 14/04/2014 00:29, TMS320 wrote:

(*) To that end, I have just discovered that Specsavers sell ear plugs
with
a variety of characteristics. Now, should I go for music or motorbike...

Suddenly losing one of your senses is one of the worst and most dangerous
things any road user can suffer, to do it voluntarily smacks of stupidity.

Quite. I value my hearing and should like to keep it in good order.

The use of headphones by cyclists has been a factor in many crashes
leading to deaths or serious injuries.

It cannot be denied that cyclists wearing headphones have been involved in
crashes. Who says it was a factor?

So go right ahead.

Plugs do not reduce sound to nothing! Perceiving and interpreting sound is
not a matter of the louder the better. Plugs reduce both foreground and
background a similar amount so relationship is retained. If plugs can be
tuned then there is no reason why perception can't be improved.

On 14/04/2014 20:50, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 14/04/2014 00:29, TMS320 wrote:

(*) To that end, I have just discovered that Specsavers sell ear plugs
with
a variety of characteristics. Now, should I go for music or motorbike...

Suddenly losing one of your senses is one of the worst and most dangerous
things any road user can suffer, to do it voluntarily smacks of stupidity.

Quite. I value my hearing and should like to keep it in good order.

The use of headphones by cyclists has been a factor in many crashes
leading to deaths or serious injuries.

It cannot be denied that cyclists wearing headphones have been involved in
crashes. Who says it was a factor?

So go right ahead.

Plugs do not reduce sound to nothing! Perceiving and interpreting sound is
not a matter of the louder the better. Plugs reduce both foreground and
background a similar amount so relationship is retained. If plugs can be
tuned then there is no reason why perception can't be improved.



coroners say it was a factor.

"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 14/04/2014 20:50, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 14/04/2014 00:29, TMS320 wrote:

(*) To that end, I have just discovered that Specsavers sell ear plugs
with
a variety of characteristics. Now, should I go for music or
motorbike...

Suddenly losing one of your senses is one of the worst and most
dangerous
things any road user can suffer, to do it voluntarily smacks of
stupidity.

Quite. I value my hearing and should like to keep it in good order.

The use of headphones by cyclists has been a factor in many crashes
leading to deaths or serious injuries.

It cannot be denied that cyclists wearing headphones have been involved
in
crashes. Who says it was a factor?

So go right ahead.

Plugs do not reduce sound to nothing! Perceiving and interpreting sound
is
not a matter of the louder the better. Plugs reduce both foreground and
background a similar amount so relationship is retained. If plugs can be
tuned then there is no reason why perception can't be improved.

coroners say it was a factor.

Have you seen the transcripts?

Or is it, perhaps, that you read something written by a journalist? And
arrived at your own conclusion.

I think it is up to the cyclist to determine whether the senses are
compromised. Wouldn't you? Not a difficult thing to do.

On 15/04/2014 13:37, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 14/04/2014 20:50, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 14/04/2014 00:29, TMS320 wrote:

(*) To that end, I have just discovered that Specsavers sell ear plugs
with
a variety of characteristics. Now, should I go for music or
motorbike...

Suddenly losing one of your senses is one of the worst and most
dangerous
things any road user can suffer, to do it voluntarily smacks of
stupidity.

Quite. I value my hearing and should like to keep it in good order.

The use of headphones by cyclists has been a factor in many crashes
leading to deaths or serious injuries.

It cannot be denied that cyclists wearing headphones have been involved
in
crashes. Who says it was a factor?

So go right ahead.

Plugs do not reduce sound to nothing! Perceiving and interpreting sound
is
not a matter of the louder the better. Plugs reduce both foreground and
background a similar amount so relationship is retained. If plugs can be
tuned then there is no reason why perception can't be improved.

coroners say it was a factor.

Have you seen the transcripts?

Or is it, perhaps, that you read something written by a journalist? And
arrived at your own conclusion.

I think it is up to the cyclist to determine whether the senses are
compromised. Wouldn't you? Not a difficult thing to do.




Cyclists are too stupid to make up their own minds in a sensible fashion
with regard to safety, so they need to be forced to do things.

A google search for headphones and cyclists will show up many crashes
where the headphones are a factor, I see no reason to disbelieve the
findings of a coroner as reported in the press.

There are moves afoot in London to ban cycling with headphones, I am
sure there must be a good reason for that, it seems unlikley that it
would be randomly chosen for enforcement without reason or cause.

On 15/04/2014 13:37, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 14/04/2014 20:50, TMS320 wrote:
"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 14/04/2014 00:29, TMS320 wrote:

(*) To that end, I have just discovered that Specsavers sell ear plugs
with
a variety of characteristics. Now, should I go for music or
motorbike...

Suddenly losing one of your senses is one of the worst and most
dangerous
things any road user can suffer, to do it voluntarily smacks of
stupidity.

Quite. I value my hearing and should like to keep it in good order.

The use of headphones by cyclists has been a factor in many crashes
leading to deaths or serious injuries.

It cannot be denied that cyclists wearing headphones have been involved
in
crashes. Who says it was a factor?

So go right ahead.

Plugs do not reduce sound to nothing! Perceiving and interpreting sound
is
not a matter of the louder the better. Plugs reduce both foreground and
background a similar amount so relationship is retained. If plugs can be
tuned then there is no reason why perception can't be improved.

coroners say it was a factor.

Have you seen the transcripts?

Or is it, perhaps, that you read something written by a journalist? And
arrived at your own conclusion.

I think it is up to the cyclist to determine whether the senses are
compromised. Wouldn't you? Not a difficult thing to do.



Cyclists senses are always compromised.

--
Dave - Cyclists VORC
Bicycles are for Children. Like masturbation, something you should grow
out of.
There is something seriously sick and stunted about grown men who want
to ride a bike."

On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 20:50:38 +0100, "TMS320" wrote:

"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 14/04/2014 00:29, TMS320 wrote:

(*) To that end, I have just discovered that Specsavers sell ear plugs
with
a variety of characteristics. Now, should I go for music or motorbike...

Suddenly losing one of your senses is one of the worst and most dangerous
things any road user can suffer, to do it voluntarily smacks of stupidity.

Quite. I value my hearing and should like to keep it in good order.

The use of headphones by cyclists has been a factor in many crashes
leading to deaths or serious injuries.

It cannot be denied that cyclists wearing headphones have been involved in
crashes. Who says it was a factor?

So go right ahead.

Plugs do not reduce sound to nothing! Perceiving and interpreting sound is
not a matter of the louder the better. Plugs reduce both foreground and
background a similar amount so relationship is retained. If plugs can be
tuned then there is no reason why perception can't be improved.



I recall someone who lived in Hull who was a keen cyclist who bragged that he
wore his noise-canceling headphones when he cycled to and from work.

Mind you: he was not everso bright.

On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 21:09:13 +0100, Judith wrote:

On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 20:50:38 +0100, "TMS320" wrote:

"Mrcheerful" wrote
On 14/04/2014 00:29, TMS320 wrote:

(*) To that end, I have just discovered that Specsavers sell ear
plugs with a variety of characteristics. Now, should I go for music
or motorbike...

Suddenly losing one of your senses is one of the worst and most
dangerous things any road user can suffer, to do it voluntarily smacks
of stupidity.

Quite. I value my hearing and should like to keep it in good order.

The use of headphones by cyclists has been a factor in many crashes
leading to deaths or serious injuries.

It cannot be denied that cyclists wearing headphones have been involved
in crashes. Who says it was a factor?

So go right ahead.

Plugs do not reduce sound to nothing! Perceiving and interpreting sound
is not a matter of the louder the better. Plugs reduce both foreground
and background a similar amount so relationship is retained. If plugs
can be tuned then there is no reason why perception can't be improved.



I recall someone who lived in Hull who was a keen cyclist who bragged
that he wore his noise-canceling headphones when he cycled to and from
work.

Mind you: he was not everso bright.

Relevance?