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  #31  
Old December 9th 07, 04:57 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc
John Kane
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On Dec 8, 10:54 pm, Zoot Katz wrote:
On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 09:05:52 -0800 (PST), John Kane

wrote:

One lesson I learned during summer riding is to NEVER push back on the
helmet while wearing it. This squeezes sweat out of the cloth headband,
and the sweat stings and makes it hard to see when it runs into my eyes.


I twice was temporarily blinded by sweat running from the helmet pads
when I went to the drops. This was a major reason for giving up
helmets: They're too dangerous.


Stop tweezing your eyebrows!

I wear a cotton skull cap or wool toque under my squash-pot.

Ron Hardin uses Maxi-Pads.

A "light-days" pad might suffice depending on heat, humidity and your
transpiration rate.

Granted, the heat and humidity here seldom combine to produce those
hellish muggy summer days typical in cities around the Great Lakes,
Eastern seaboard and Gulf states.

I'm not even certain an absorbent sanitary pad under a terry-cloth
head band over a wicking dew rag would work there.
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It's much simpler just to not wear styrofoam hats. Cheaper too.

John Kane, Kingston ON Canada
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  #32  
Old December 9th 07, 05:34 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc
Tom Keats
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In article ,
Tom Sherman writes:

After a double metric century, my green bodysock
had large white salt stains on each side.


Heh. You reminded me of the Trailer Park Boys
episode: The Green *******.


cheers,
Tom

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  #33  
Old December 9th 07, 09:09 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc
Zoot Katz
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On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 08:57:48 -0800 (PST), John Kane
wrote:

It's much simpler just to not wear styrofoam hats. Cheaper too.


My not wearing a helmet could result in a $75 fine. I hate gambling.

It's a talisman more than anything. I've worn one since long before
our MHL. The law has only created the exaggerated image of cycling
being dangerous and that non-helmeted cyclists are criminals.

It's always represented to me a reminder to cover my ass, so to
speak. That I've never used it in its intended capacity could be
taken as testament that it works.

Wow! Maybe it even bears magical properties beyond those
extraordinary powers claimed by the proselytising Liddites.

We need more data.
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zk
  #34  
Old December 9th 07, 10:31 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc, alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent, rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.tech
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Quoth Edward Dolan the Great:

I am not much in favor of these fund raising type of bike rides. Unless you
are good at hitting up your friends and neighbors, they tend to be quite
expensive. Also, I have never been able to figure out what my having a good
time on a bike ride has to do with raising money for a cause however worthy.


See: http://sheldonbrown.com/thons

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  #35  
Old December 9th 07, 10:50 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc, alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent, rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.tech
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They let Brown out again.

Listen xsjhedlon, while you're out, try EMERSON'S QUOTES on the
opening page.



  #36  
Old December 10th 07, 03:12 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc
Marz
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On Dec 8, 9:13 pm, "Bill Sornson" wrote:
Marz wrote:
On Dec 8, 2:45 pm, "Bill Sornson" wrote:
John Kane wrote:
I twice was temporarily blinded by sweat running from the helmet
pads when I went to the drops. This was a major reason for giving
up helmets: They're too dangerous.


Yeah, I threw away my hammer after banging my thumb, too! Damn
thing was an accident waiting to happen!


LOL


Sweat in the eyes is a design flaw, smashing your own thumb with
hammer is dumb, Can you see the difference, can you?


Only a moron wouldn't realize that pressing the pads against one's head
could result in a salty eye wash.

To no longer use a helmet because of sweat in the eyes -- much less calling
it "too dangerous" (although I suspect that was a facetious comment) -- is
the very embodiment of scapegoating operator error. As would be throwing
away a perfectly uselful tool after hurting oneself with it once.

Does LOL stand for lack of learning in your case?


I learned how to ride with a helmet and not get sweat in my eyes...oh,
within a minute of my first ride with one. Sorry that task was too much for
you even after all these years.

LOL indeed... BS


I have thrown away a helmet because it was designed badly and allowed
a stream of sweat to flow over my eyes, I bought a better one that
directed the sweat down the sides of my head.

A bad tool is a bad tool and, yes, a good workmen should never blame
his tools. Cycle helmets on the whole are poorly designed tools that
do a barely adequate job. Their benefits, in my opinion, do outweigh
the risks and there are risks in wearing a helmet. Sweat in the eyes
at the wrong moment is one of them.

How did you learn to avoid getting sweat in your eyes in under one
minute of your first ride. Were you sweaty before you get on the bike?





  #37  
Old December 10th 07, 04:04 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc
Tom Keats
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In article ,
Zoot Katz writes:

Wow! Maybe it even bears magical properties beyond those
extraordinary powers claimed by the proselytising Liddites.


Along with my rain cape, I also lost my magic
helmet cover -- the one that stops it (the weather)
from raining.

Oh well. That thing should never have been within
mortal grasp in the first place.

Tonight was a beauty for riding. It (the weather)
tried to freeze but failed. The asphalt streets
had all these magic pixie dust sparkles in it.
For a moment I thought it (the weather) was beginning
to rain, but soon ascertained I was just riding through
half-frozen dew falling out the air.

Northbound on Heather from King Edward (or was it 33rd?)
I saw some big culverts on the streetside, waiting to
be installed. I considered riding through one but
quickly shone that idea on. Fearing black ice, I took
the hill down from King Ed very gingerly.

There appears to be some sort of high-falootin' tour
being set up for the Canada Line in Cambie Village.
The Choices Market there has some nice grapefruits --
the big ones, not those stoopid, stunted/runted, li'l
navel orange-sized ones.

I forsook my bucket to wear my Kerrisdale Lumber hat
instead. I should have worn my ear-warming toque.
In Cambie Village there was a Vancouver Traffic Authority
cop car blocking the street. I walked my bike past the
cops until I was out of sight, up the lane across from
the Starbucks @ Cambie & 19th.


cheers,
Tom

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  #38  
Old December 10th 07, 04:06 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc
Tom Sherman[_2_]
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Bill Sornson wrote:
Marz wrote:
{snip}

How did you learn to avoid getting sweat in your eyes in under one
minute of your first ride. Were you sweaty before you get on the bike?


I know this offends the sensibility (such that it is) of the AHZ crowd, but
I used -- gasp! -- COMMON SENSE. In this case, it was fairly obvious that
wearing a -- gasp! -- SWEAT BAND would prevent -- gasp! -- SWEAT from
pouring down from the helmet and into my eyes. Had worked like a charm from
the very first ride.

It's -- gasp! -- really not that complicated... B(gasp!)S


Mr. Sornson should be aware that if there is room for a sweatband below
the helmet on his forehead, then he is wearing the helmet too far back
on his head.

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"Localized intense suction such as tornadoes is created when temperature
differences are high enough between meeting air masses, and can impart
excessive energy onto a cyclist." - Randy Schlitter
  #39  
Old December 10th 07, 04:09 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc
Tom Keats
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In article ,
Marz writes:

A bad tool is a bad tool and, yes, a good workmen should never blame
his tools. Cycle helmets on the whole are poorly designed tools that
do a barely adequate job.


That settles it! From now on I'm getting my buckets from
the Dollar Stores -- those purveyors of Made-in-China
cheap, beautiful, replacable junk.

Their benefits, in my opinion, do outweigh
the risks and there are risks in wearing a helmet. Sweat in the eyes
at the wrong moment is one of them.


Getting bees/wasps stuck in the vents/holes is another. Or two.


cheers,
Tom

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  #40  
Old December 10th 07, 05:37 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc
Marz
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On Dec 9, 9:57 pm, "Bill Sornson" wrote:
Marz wrote:

{snip}

How did you learn to avoid getting sweat in your eyes in under one
minute of your first ride. Were you sweaty before you get on the bike?


I know this offends the sensibility (such that it is) of the AHZ crowd, but
I used -- gasp! -- COMMON SENSE. In this case, it was fairly obvious that
wearing a -- gasp! -- SWEAT BAND would prevent -- gasp! -- SWEAT from
pouring down from the helmet and into my eyes. Had worked like a charm from
the very first ride.

It's -- gasp! -- really not that complicated... B(gasp!)S


Ah, so you were aware of the design flaw and fixed the problem it with
a sweat band.

I'm not a AHZ, but you are offensive.

 




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