dog repellent

(Pete Cresswell) wrote:

Per GaryG:

Surely if pepper spray would "escalate" without "incapacitating" police
officers would not be carrying it (and using it).


Don't be too sure.

Some people can take a *lot* of pain and still keep their wits.

I wouldn't bet on pepper spray against a serious boxer.

Then it is a problem if this is the dog chasing you:
http://www.gifsplanet-univers.com/gifsplanet-univers.com/boxer.jpg.

--
Tom Sherman - Earth

wrote:

...
if the dog is less than your axle height turn into the little *******
with a power stroke.
that'll fry his ass good....

If the dog is shorter than the axle height on my ISO 305-mm wheel, I
will play punt, pass and kick with it if it tries to bite me.

--
Tom Sherman - Earth

In article 0YdLd.37950$IV5.21977@attbi_s54, "Dave Reckoning"
writes:

Dear Marco, this was my tactic for a long time. I would yell species
specific epitaphs and tell the dog that I would kill it loud enough to rouse
the owner. Eventually I tired of this method because while it felt good the
first few times it took a lot of energy and did not really control the dogs
or the owners.

Actually a variant of this can be quite effective. You simply yell "LAWSUIT!"
at the top of your lungs over and over. Since dogs defend their property the
owner is likely in a nearby house and will hear it. The last time I did that
the dog has never been loose as I have gone to work since. It certainly didn't
hurt that it was at 0600 (AM) when all was quiet.

Tom Gibb

In article , "GaryG"
writes:

Surely if pepper spray would "escalate" without "incapacitating" police
officers would not be carrying it (and using it).

Perhaps, but police officers usually have a backup means that measures
something between .357 and .45 inches in diameter.

Tom Gibb

yeah, i do animal behavior communications research. I have zero
communication skills with dogs but then I ahven't worked with a dog for
geee over 40 years.
but when the dog bullets outta his yard, i spend a few precious moments
trying to reason with it
before i club the sucker to death.

a mugger is a mugger isa mugger...
notice some breeds do not chase cars!

Earlier, you stated that Liquid Bullet is "80 times stronger
than MACE", but that does not tell us which of the Mace
products it's "80 times" stronger than. I assumed you were
referring to the chemical named "Mace" (the CN tear gas).

I was just quoting the Liquid Bullet web-page, and they don't clarify
which MACE they're comparing against, so you're probably right. My
recollection of the Liquid Bullet formula is that it's CN/CS plus OC
pepper resin.

FWIW, the product you mentioned does not sound reputable,
because:

1) It does not mention any specifics about the contents.
Reputable pepper sprays will state their relative strength,
using the Scoville Heat Unit (SHU) - the standard way of
comparing pepper "heat".

I don't see any mention of the SHU rating of MACE, which
appears to be a "reputable" product:

Look on their FAQ's page, where it says:

"10. How "Hot" is my pepper spray?
OC pepper is generally measured in terms of Scoville Heat
Units (SHU's) or on a percentage basis. For example, one
spray might be 10% 500,000 SHU while another is 5%
1,000,000 SHU. Either spray will be effective in most cases."

Not really a clear explanation of "how hot is my pepper spray", and it
doesn't mention the SHU rating of MACE, either; so what does it tell you?

If you feel comfortable sending personal information
(name, address, credit card number, etc.) to what may
be a "fly-by-night" aol account, fine.

I take it you don't believe the statement on the site that it was
created in 1999.

--
"Oh, Alison, my aim is true"
-- Elvis Costello, "Alison" (1977)

wrote:

yeah, i do animal behavior communications research. I have zero
communication skills with dogs but then I ahven't worked with a dog for
geee over 40 years.
but when the dog bullets outta his yard, i spend a few precious moments
trying to reason with it
before i club the sucker to death.

a mugger is a mugger isa mugger...
notice some breeds do not chase cars!

I was once attacked by a dog that had jaws too small to get around my
leg enough to actually bite me. I gave it a good swat with the rolled up
raincoat I was wearing after it sunk its teeth into the flap of my pant
leg and refused to let go, even though I kept on walking, dragging it
with me.

My favorite was a shepherd mix that ran up to me in a park, then kept on
growling while trying to circle in behind me. Meanwhile the idiot owner
kept on yelling "he won't bite". I was ready to crack the dog over the
head with the telescoping baton I had on me, as the dog was big enough
to cause serious injury with a single bite. I am convinced if I had not
seen the dog in time and faced it down, it would have bitten me.

--
Tom Sherman - Earth

"GaryG" wrote in message
...
"Greg" wrote in message
...
On 5 separate incidents this morning I was chased by dogs. One of them
was a pack of 4 dogs. I'm up for sprinting to outrun them once or
twice, but 5 times? Does anybody use dog repellent? If so, what brand
and where do you put it (jersey, clip to shorts, etc)

A small canister of "cop strength" pepper spray fits neatly in a jersey
pocket, and works like a charm on dogs. If there's more than one dog, aim
for the leader.
...G/ \G
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