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Marin joins the unusable Flash based website club
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http://www.marinbikes.com/bicycles_2...s/m_bikes.html It was about as to the point and quick to navigate as ya can get. New website: http://www.marinbikes.com/2008/us/bi...collection.php Slower and far more confusing. It seems to be an industry trend. Thank goodness our old friends at Jamis and Breezer are sticking with html: http://www.breezerbikes.com/bikes.cfm http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/thebikes/index.html I'm venturing that the Flash based websites are said to be stiffer and more vertically compliant? |
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Marin joins the unusable Flash based website club
landotter who? wrote:
Old website: http://www.marinbikes.com/bicycles_2...s/m_bikes.html It was about as to the point and quick to navigate as ya can get. New website: http://www.marinbikes.com/2008/us/bi...collection.php Slower and far more confusing. It seems to be an industry trend. Thank goodness our old friends at Jamis and Breezer are sticking with html: http://www.breezerbikes.com/bikes.cfm http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/thebikes/index.html I'm venturing that the Flash based websites are said to be stiffer and more vertically compliant? Website designers who forget the Keep It Simple Stupid principle should be taken out behind the woodshed. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia POST FREE OR DIE! |
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Marin joins the unusable Flash based website club
On Dec 27, 8:39 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote: landotter who? wrote: Old website: http://www.marinbikes.com/bicycles_2...s/m_bikes.html It was about as to the point and quick to navigate as ya can get. New website: http://www.marinbikes.com/2008/us/bi...collection.php Slower and far more confusing. It seems to be an industry trend. Thank goodness our old friends at Jamis and Breezer are sticking with html: http://www.breezerbikes.com/bikes.cfm http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/thebikes/index.html I'm venturing that the Flash based websites are said to be stiffer and more vertically compliant? Website designers who forget the Keep It Simple Stupid principle should be taken out behind the woodshed. Another reason to appreciate 'ole Sheldon. His website is so 90s in the best sense of the phrase. Flash can be fantastic--the youtube revolution proved this, but even youtube relies on solid html for navigation, as does flickr, gmail, and other modern sites. |
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Marin joins the unusable Flash based website club
landotter ??? wrote:
On Dec 27, 8:39 pm, Tom Sherman wrote: landotter who? wrote: ... I'm venturing that the Flash based websites are said to be stiffer and more vertically compliant? Website designers who forget the Keep It Simple Stupid principle should be taken out behind the woodshed. Another reason to appreciate 'ole Sheldon. His website is so 90s in the best sense of the phrase. Brown-nosing Sheldon? (For the record, I have said the same about Sheldon's website in the past.) Flash can be fantastic--the youtube revolution proved this, but even youtube relies on solid html for navigation, as does flickr, gmail, and other modern sites. Flash is good for animated cartoons and games, but should NOT be part of basic website design. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia POST FREE OR DIE! |
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Marin joins the unusable Flash based website club
Tom Sherman wrote:
landotter ??? wrote: On Dec 27, 8:39 pm, Tom Sherman wrote: landotter who? wrote: ... I'm venturing that the Flash based websites are said to be stiffer and more vertically compliant? Website designers who forget the Keep It Simple Stupid principle should be taken out behind the woodshed. Another reason to appreciate 'ole Sheldon. His website is so 90s in the best sense of the phrase. Brown-nosing Sheldon? (For the record, I have said the same about Sheldon's website in the past.) Flash can be fantastic--the youtube revolution proved this, but even youtube relies on solid html for navigation, as does flickr, gmail, and other modern sites. Flash is good for animated cartoons and games, but should NOT be part of basic website design. It;s like cotton candy. Seems like a good idea, but after one bite, you're sick of it. \\paul |
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Marin joins the unusable Flash based website club
On Dec 27, 6:00*pm, landotter wrote:
Old website:http://www.marinbikes.com/bicycles_2...s/m_bikes.html It was about as to the point and quick to navigate as ya can get. New website:http://www.marinbikes.com/2008/us/bi...collection.php Slower and far more confusing. It seems to be an industry trend. landotter, Isn't it kind of like the phone tree when you call your insurance company or your health plan or your state government? It's designed to give you the illusion of 'choices', but the reality is that they're taking you deeper and deeper down a single lane, one-way rat-hole. When you finally realize that this is NOT where you thought you were going, it's too late to simply sidestep to a different path...you have to go back to the hub before you can go a different way. To me, it's the same problem, one phone, one pc screen, at least with a book or magazine (actual) you can flip here, flip there, keep one place with one finger while referring to another location. With a web site it might help if the rat hole you're going down would open a set of windows so that you could just go 'oh hell', close, close, close, close, and you'd be back to your starting window. But maybe that's the same as going 'back, back, back'....you can find newsgroups where guys call each other names for thinking that those are good or bad ideas, and they're as vehement about it as the arguments here about helmets or doping. It seems to me that if A invents a technology, B is going to learn it, and C is going to try to sell those services to D by promising millions of site hits and Sales Dollars. Economic churning, for what? It's like the Britney Spears school of Business Development. New, new, new.....value? What's that? Rant concluded. ABS |
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Marin joins the unusable Flash based website club
Quoth landotter:
Another reason to appreciate 'oleSheldon. His website is so 90s in the best sense of the phrase. Flash can be fantastic--the youtube revolution proved this, but even youtube relies on solid html for navigation, as does flickr, gmail, and other modern sites. The check is in the mail... Sheldon "View My Site In The Font YOU Prefer" Brown +-----------------------------------------------------+ | If you want fancy, complicated moving graphics, | | get a television set! | | Beer and car advertisements on TV are way | | beyond anything on the web, and load instantly. | +-----------------------------------------------------+ Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041 http://harriscyclery.com Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide http://captainbike.com http://sheldonbrown.com |
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Marin joins the unusable Flash based website club
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:00:41 -0800 (PST), landotter wrote:
Old website: http://www.marinbikes.com/bicycles_2...s/m_bikes.html It was about as to the point and quick to navigate as ya can get. New website: http://www.marinbikes.com/2008/us/bi...collection.php Slower and far more confusing. It seems to be an industry trend. Thank goodness our old friends at Jamis and Breezer are sticking with html: http://www.breezerbikes.com/bikes.cfm http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/thebikes/index.html I'm venturing that the Flash based websites are said to be stiffer and more vertically compliant? I agree. Also, the new site is so damned dark! |
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Marin joins the unusable Flash based website club
On Dec 28, 9:35 pm, Darwin wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:00:41 -0800 (PST), landotter wrote: Old website: http://www.marinbikes.com/bicycles_2...s/m_bikes.html It was about as to the point and quick to navigate as ya can get. New website: http://www.marinbikes.com/2008/us/bi...collection.php Slower and far more confusing. It seems to be an industry trend. Thank goodness our old friends at Jamis and Breezer are sticking with html: http://www.breezerbikes.com/bikes.cfm http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/thebikes/index.html I'm venturing that the Flash based websites are said to be stiffer and more vertically compliant? I agree. Also, the new site is so damned dark! Ah, yes! That's what was so obvious and bothersome that I couldn't put my finger on at first. LOL! The old website was so darn navigable with the nice little thumbnail links to the bikes. Gah, Marin has gone to the dark side. However, I'll remember my San Anselmo Nexus bike with great affection. Best and most nuke proof city bike ever. At least they still make the delightful $500 Belvedere with color matched aluminum fenders! (fenders that'll dent to hell in real use, but they look fabulous for the first couple months) |
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