Platform pedal recommendation, please

On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 06:30:18 -0700 (PDT), BCDrums
wrote:

Does anyone have a pedal he/she loves?

No, but I do have one that I now hate:
http://www.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/misc/slides/Resin-Pedal.html
That's a resin pedal sold by various mail odor firms that cater to
cheap tightwads such as me. Oddly, I didn't crash into something,
stomp on the pedals, or fall over on the pedal to produce the above
damage. It was just fine one day, and broken the next. I rode for
about 3 miles before I noticed that there was something wrong. My
guess(tm) is residual stresses from manufacture, shrinkage from the
molding process, or embrittlement from being in the sun too long. I
tried to induce a similar failure in the matching pedal by beating on
it with a short 2x4, but it refused to cooperate. Caveat emptor.

I order to test my uncanny ability to follow bad with worse, I
purchased a pair of these on eBay:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171061819708
One side of the pedal works nicely with my 8.5W construction shoes.
The other side doesn't. You can guess which side ends up on top most
of the time. I'm now shopping for yet another (cheap) replacement.

Hopefully, you'll do better than to follow my example.

plat-footed

The earth is flat. I don't see a problem with flat feet.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Friday, October 4, 2013 6:16:23 PM UTC-4, Peter Howard wrote:


MKS Sylvan Touring Pedals

http://smartbikeparts.com/search_details.php?itm=PD4010

http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...s.php?id=19660

They are my pedal of choice on several bicycles.


Peter,

Perhaps I don't understand the possible meanings of "platform pedals." I am looking for a pedal with a lot of surface area, like these:

http://www.ergon-bike.com/us/en/product/pc2

or the Redline pedals that AMuzi mentioned. The Sylvans are like the pedals I have now, a quill-type pedal with all weight borne by two thin ridges of metal. I'd like more surface to take the weight, and pins or other ways to create some friction. These MKS pedals are interesting too:

http://www.amazon.com/MKS-Lambda-Ped.../dp/B001GSQVEE

BC

On Friday, October 4, 2013 8:43:02 PM UTC-4, BCDrums wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2013 6:16:23 PM UTC-4, Peter Howard wrote:





MKS Sylvan Touring Pedals



http://smartbikeparts.com/search_details.php?itm=PD4010



http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...s.php?id=19660



They are my pedal of choice on several bicycles.





Peter,



Perhaps I don't understand the possible meanings of "platform pedals." I am looking for a pedal with a lot of surface area, like these:



http://www.ergon-bike.com/us/en/product/pc2



or the Redline pedals that AMuzi mentioned. The Sylvans are like the pedals I have now, a quill-type pedal with all weight borne by two thin ridges of metal. I'd like more surface to take the weight, and pins or other ways to create some friction. These MKS pedals are interesting too:



http://www.amazon.com/MKS-Lambda-Ped.../dp/B001GSQVEE



BC

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YEAH GO THRU google images WITH NATURAL LANGUAGE SEARCHING...

MKS were two first sets used here...both unconfortable after using bear traps which are themselves unconfortable after adding plywood surfaces both sides...but as toothed, great in slop.

not as shipped your first choice in pedals for over 75 mile rides.

On Friday, October 4, 2013 8:40:38 PM UTC-4, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

No, but I do have one that I now hate:

http://www.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/misc/slides/Resin-Pedal.html

That's a resin pedal sold by various mail odor firms that cater to

cheap tightwads such as me. Oddly, I didn't crash into something,

stomp on the pedals, or fall over on the pedal to produce the above

damage. It was just fine one day, and broken the next. I rode for

about 3 miles before I noticed that there was something wrong. My

guess(tm) is residual stresses from manufacture, shrinkage from the

molding process, or embrittlement from being in the sun too long. I

tried to induce a similar failure in the matching pedal by beating on

it with a short 2x4, but it refused to cooperate. Caveat emptor.


Thanks for the heads-up. While I originally thought about something like this, I figure pedals are one of the three contact points on a bike, and not the best place to go with the cheapest option. F'rinstance, I wouldn't want a $10 saddle.

BC

Dan O writes:

On Friday, October 4, 2013 6:30:18 AM UTC-7, BCDrums wrote:
Converting a mountain bike into a jump-on-'n'-ride. I'm thinking about double-sided, non-clipless, with no toe clips, and maybe a concave profile. All of the shoes I'd wear on this bike have rubber soles, either hard or softer. Wide platform is good. Sub-$40 is good, but would spend more if necessary.

I have seen the Ergons, which look good but are too pricey at $60-80.

Does anyone have a pedal he/she loves?


I put MKS plastic pedals on my jump 'n' ride "wheelie" bike. Not
sure exactly what model - they were pulled off a ~mid-80's Fuji
Sundance MTB (the whole *bike* was $40 :-)

I do *love* these pedals 'cause I can even ride barefoot on them.

These are the ones that I have:

http://bmxmuseum.com/forsale/hpim3359_blowup.jpg

It would be hard for me to imagine better pedals to
"jump-on-'n'-ride".

while the foot has a large enervation for square footage visavee your butt eg, those nerves are unrechoired for spinning bicycle pedals infacto less is prob more unless ura racing bringing contact limits up over varying surfaces while turning at speed.

now Andrew will disag=ee with me but on the road for most riders there wold be small differences between a 50 and up pedal and a 20 and down pedal set except for rebuilability and longevity say 5000 miles over 2500.

the crux is going 5000 ona 50 pedal enters the areas of elliptical wear and dimidhing returns in efficiency vs money spent

that is, is better to buy cheap and throw away without pain than suffer degradation for extra dough.

pedals are not seats. seats doahn have bearings.

On Friday, October 4, 2013 8:40:38 PM UTC-4, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 06:30:18 -0700 (PDT), BCDrums

wrote:



Does anyone have a pedal he/she loves?



No, but I do have one that I now hate:

http://www.11junk.com/jeffl/pics/bicycles/misc/slides/Resin-Pedal.html

That's a resin pedal sold by various mail odor firms that cater to

cheap tightwads such as me. Oddly, I didn't crash into something,

stomp on the pedals, or fall over on the pedal to produce the above

damage. It was just fine one day, and broken the next. I rode for

about 3 miles before I noticed that there was something wrong. My

guess(tm) is residual stresses from manufacture, shrinkage from the

molding process, or embrittlement from being in the sun too long. I

tried to induce a similar failure in the matching pedal by beating on

it with a short 2x4, but it refused to cooperate. Caveat emptor.



I order to test my uncanny ability to follow bad with worse, I

purchased a pair of these on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171061819708

One side of the pedal works nicely with my 8.5W construction shoes.

The other side doesn't. You can guess which side ends up on top most

of the time. I'm now shopping for yet another (cheap) replacement.



Hopefully, you'll do better than to follow my example.



plat-footed



The earth is flat. I don't see a problem with flat feet.



--

Jeff Liebermann

150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com

Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com

Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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chinese left out a plasticizer n sold it to the creamery.

On Friday, October 4, 2013 9:25:29 PM UTC-4, datakoll wrote:
while the foot has a large enervation for square footage visavee your butt eg, those nerves are unrechoired for spinning bicycle pedals infacto less is prob more unless ura racing bringing contact limits up over varying surfaces while turning at speed.



now Andrew will disag=ee with me but on the road for most riders there wold be small differences between a 50 and up pedal and a 20 and down pedal set except for rebuilability and longevity say 5000 miles over 2500.



the crux is going 5000 ona 50 pedal enters the areas of elliptical wear and dimidhing returns in efficiency vs money spent



that is, is better to buy cheap and throw away without pain than suffer degradation for extra dough.



pedals are not seats. seats doahn have bearings.

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there are exceptions...where ? eg..I own a 544 Volvo now for almost 50 years. I know.

However, the door handle on muh 544 weighs more than the door on a Honda Civic.

that isnot pedal territory.

BCDrums wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2013 6:16:23 PM UTC-4, Peter Howard wrote:


MKS Sylvan Touring Pedals

http://smartbikeparts.com/search_details.php?itm=PD4010

http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...s.php?id=19660

They are my pedal of choice on several bicycles.


Peter,

Perhaps I don't understand the possible meanings of "platform
pedals." I am looking for a pedal with a lot of surface area, like
these:

http://www.ergon-bike.com/us/en/product/pc2

or the Redline pedals that AMuzi mentioned. The Sylvans are like the
pedals I have now, a quill-type pedal with all weight borne by two
thin ridges of metal. I'd like more surface to take the weight, and
pins or other ways to create some friction. These MKS pedals are
interesting too:

http://www.amazon.com/MKS-Lambda-Ped.../dp/B001GSQVEE

BC

I understand now. I assumed that you were looking to ditch clipless pedals
on a serious sort of MTB in favour of anything but clipless. You are
actually looking for something like a BMX pedal with a broad platform and
maybe replaceable pins.
If you like the look of the MKS Lambda pedals I can recommend the general
quality of MKS. However, they don't have replaceable pins and their raised
grippy bits may eventually wear over a long period. Be warned that when MKS
say "sealed mechanism" they mean additional seals to protect their loose
ball bearings, not sealed bearings. The MKS website has a note making their
terminology clear.
I looked at the Ergon pedal website. I admire and use their handgrips and
they seem to have put some thought into the ergonomic design of their
pedals. However "composite" bodies and "maintenance free" polymer bearings
still sound like plastic.
Can't really help seeing as BMX type platforms aren't my personal thing.
However, I have had cycles pass through my hands for refurbishment which
sported Wellgo or VP cast alloy BMX type pedals. They were only cheapish
pedals but they all responded well to new bearing balls and relubrication.
PH

On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 18:10:54 -0700 (PDT), BCDrums
wrote:

Thanks for the heads-up. While I originally thought about something like
this, I figure pedals are one of the three contact points on a bike,
and not the best place to go with the cheapest option. F'rinstance,
I wouldn't want a $10 saddle.
BC

There are about 200 assorted saddles on eBay for less than $10.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=bicycle+saddle+-cover+-bag&_udlo=0&LH_BIN=1&_sop=15&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_ udhi=10&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.Xbicy cle+saddle+-cover+-bag+-clamp&_nkw=bicycle+saddle+-cover+-bag+-clamp&_sacat=0
Surely you can find something that's usable.

However, you're correct about the saddle. I'm starting to favor a
more upright riding position, which transfers some of the load from my
arms to my posterior. Therefore, I'm looking for added cushioning and
a hemorroid safe center canyon. Unfortunately, these features seem to
be mutually exclusive. Ugly, but effective:
http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Bike-Comfort-Tractor-Elastomer/dp/B0015RASPY

As for pedals, I just ordered a pair of cheap folding pedals:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/290981572428
to replace the cheap pedals that I bought to replace the cheap broken
pedals. There's a moral here somewhere, but I'll pretend not to
notice. We'll also see how long it takes for me to break them.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558