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Some notes about first ride with HRM
And also a set of aerobars. First some thoughts on the info supplied by
the inexpensive basic HRM. While riding at my normal pace hrm gives a reading that seems to fluctuate between 165 and 170. Which according to the documentation that came with the device puts that into the aerobic / fitness range for a 34 year old male. And the highest I saw it reach was 182 at the near the top of a climb. But while using the aerobars I noticed that the normal range is higher than while riding the hoods, but not as high as climbing. In the aero position the range seems to be 170 to 175. This seems to indicate that I need to work more on interval / cardiac training. Now about the aerobars. Not really too much of a suprise here. Over 30 miles today it looks like I averaged about 1 mph faster using the aerobars where it was safe to use them. Ken |
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Some notes about first ride with HRM
Just A User wrote:
:: And also a set of aerobars. First some thoughts on the info supplied :: by the inexpensive basic HRM. While riding at my normal pace hrm :: gives a reading that seems to fluctuate between 165 and 170. Which :: according to the documentation that came with the device puts that :: into the aerobic / fitness range for a 34 year old male. And the :: highest I saw it reach was 182 at the near the top of a climb. But :: while using the aerobars I noticed that the normal range is higher :: than while riding the hoods, but not as high as climbing. In the :: aero position the range seems to be 170 to 175. This seems to :: indicate that I need to work more on interval / cardiac training. Seems like until you have an idea of your max heart rate those numbers don't really mean much. :: :: Now about the aerobars. Not really too much of a suprise here. Over :: 30 miles today it looks like I averaged about 1 mph faster using the :: aerobars where it was safe to use them. :: :: Ken |
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Some notes about first ride with HRM
Roger Zoul wrote:
Just A User wrote: :: And also a set of aerobars. First some thoughts on the info supplied :: by the inexpensive basic HRM. While riding at my normal pace hrm :: gives a reading that seems to fluctuate between 165 and 170. Which :: according to the documentation that came with the device puts that :: into the aerobic / fitness range for a 34 year old male. And the :: highest I saw it reach was 182 at the near the top of a climb. But :: while using the aerobars I noticed that the normal range is higher :: than while riding the hoods, but not as high as climbing. In the :: aero position the range seems to be 170 to 175. This seems to :: indicate that I need to work more on interval / cardiac training. Seems like until you have an idea of your max heart rate those numbers don't really mean much. Well after doing a`simple google search, I found a couple of formulas for finding max heart rate. And both seem to indicate that 182 is just about the max for someone my age. Ken |
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Some notes about first ride with HRM
Seems like until you have an idea of your max heart rate those numbers
don't really mean much. Well after doing a`simple google search, I found a couple of formulas for finding max heart rate. And both seem to indicate that 182 is just about the max for someone my age. My guess is that, as you get into better shape, you'll be able to push that number up a bit higher. At 51 I can still reliably get to 175 on a hard climb. When my level of fitness declines a bit, the max tends to drift down towards 170 or so. For me, the big advantage to using a heart rate monitor came when riding on flat & rolling terrain. I'd always assumed I just sucked at that sort of thing, and climbing was what I did well. The heart rate monitor told a different story. I was able to ride a half-hour climb at 165 average heart rate, but was doing no better than 145-150 on the flats. Basically, I was self-limiting, believing that I wasn't able to go any faster without blowing up. Not the case. I'm not significantly faster on the flats, because I know where I am and I have the confidence of knowing what my actual limits are. Your mileage may vary, of course. I know of many for whom the reverse situation is true; they do great on the flats, but suck at climbing because they think they're at their limit (when in fact they're not). Either way, it's a reason to use a heart rate monitor that I rarely see discussed. --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReactionBicycles.com "Just A User" wrote in message ... Roger Zoul wrote: Just A User wrote: :: And also a set of aerobars. First some thoughts on the info supplied :: by the inexpensive basic HRM. While riding at my normal pace hrm :: gives a reading that seems to fluctuate between 165 and 170. Which :: according to the documentation that came with the device puts that :: into the aerobic / fitness range for a 34 year old male. And the :: highest I saw it reach was 182 at the near the top of a climb. But :: while using the aerobars I noticed that the normal range is higher :: than while riding the hoods, but not as high as climbing. In the :: aero position the range seems to be 170 to 175. This seems to :: indicate that I need to work more on interval / cardiac training. Seems like until you have an idea of your max heart rate those numbers don't really mean much. Well after doing a`simple google search, I found a couple of formulas for finding max heart rate. And both seem to indicate that 182 is just about the max for someone my age. Ken |
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Some notes about first ride with HRM
"Just A User" wrote in message ... Roger Zoul wrote: Just A User wrote: :: And also a set of aerobars. First some thoughts on the info supplied :: by the inexpensive basic HRM. While riding at my normal pace hrm :: gives a reading that seems to fluctuate between 165 and 170. Which :: according to the documentation that came with the device puts that :: into the aerobic / fitness range for a 34 year old male. And the :: highest I saw it reach was 182 at the near the top of a climb. But :: while using the aerobars I noticed that the normal range is higher :: than while riding the hoods, but not as high as climbing. In the :: aero position the range seems to be 170 to 175. This seems to :: indicate that I need to work more on interval / cardiac training. Seems like until you have an idea of your max heart rate those numbers don't really mean much. Well after doing a`simple google search, I found a couple of formulas for finding max heart rate. And both seem to indicate that 182 is just about the max for someone my age. Ken There is a lot of individual variation in maximum heart rate among individuals who are the same age. You might want to actually measure your maximum heart rate rather than estimating it by age. This page might help: http://roberttayloronline.com/Health...nce/MaxHR.aspx Despite what is mentioned in this thread, you probably won't change you maximum heart rate by training. Your resting heart rate will decrease. Your ability to maintain a sustained effort will occur at a higher heart rate and the amount of work you can do at a particular heart rate might also increase. Here's a made up example: Before Training: measured maximum heart rate: 184 measured resting heart rate: 64 maximum heart rate you can maintain during a 30 minute time trial: 155 speed on bike, riding for 15 minutes, trying to keep heart rate at 145: 19 mph After Training: Before Training: measured maximum heart rate: 184 measured resting heart rate: 50 maximum heart rate you can maintain during a 30 minute time trial: 163 speed on bike, riding for 15 minutes, trying to keep heart rate at 145: 20.5 mph BobT |
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Some notes about first ride with HRM
Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
Seems like until you have an idea of your max heart rate those numbers don't really mean much. Well after doing a`simple google search, I found a couple of formulas for finding max heart rate. And both seem to indicate that 182 is just about the max for someone my age. My guess is that, as you get into better shape, you'll be able to push that number up a bit higher. At 51 I can still reliably get to 175 on a hard climb. When my level of fitness declines a bit, the max tends to drift down towards 170 or so. For me, the big advantage to using a heart rate monitor came when riding on flat & rolling terrain. I'd always assumed I just sucked at that sort of thing, and climbing was what I did well. The heart rate monitor told a different story. I was able to ride a half-hour climb at 165 average heart rate, but was doing no better than 145-150 on the flats. Basically, I was self-limiting, believing that I wasn't able to go any faster without blowing up. Not the case. I'm not significantly faster on the flats, because I know where I am and I have the confidence of knowing what my actual limits are. Your mileage may vary, of course. I know of many for whom the reverse situation is true; they do great on the flats, but suck at climbing because they think they're at their limit (when in fact they're not). Either way, it's a reason to use a heart rate monitor that I rarely see discussed. Well I bought one just because at some points during some of my rides, I have felt like my heart was going to explode, like after a short but steep climb, going over one of the local drawbridges. I knew that I am not that stong in climbs, not very many around here. But I suspected that I wasn't spinning fast enough in the flats to get much cardiac benefits, but that seems not to be the case. But I still need to work on the climbing, perhaps I need to intervals or sprints. Anyway the HRM will not be used on all my rides. It could become like the cycle computer. Ken |
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Some notes about first ride with HRM
On Jul 1, 6:41 pm, Just A User wrote:
Roger Zoul wrote: Just A User wrote: :: And also a set of aerobars. First some thoughts on the info supplied :: by the inexpensive basic HRM. While riding at my normal pace hrm :: gives a reading that seems to fluctuate between 165 and 170. Which :: according to the documentation that came with the device puts that :: into the aerobic / fitness range for a 34 year old male. And the :: highest I saw it reach was 182 at the near the top of a climb. But :: while using the aerobars I noticed that the normal range is higher :: than while riding the hoods, but not as high as climbing. In the :: aero position the range seems to be 170 to 175. This seems to :: indicate that I need to work more on interval / cardiac training. Seems like until you have an idea of your max heart rate those numbers don't really mean much. Well after doing a`simple google search, I found a couple of formulas for finding max heart rate. And both seem to indicate that 182 is just about the max for someone my age. Ken You could also probably use some formula to determine your shoe size based on measurments of your hand. Those formulae are just guidlelines to get you started and give you a good idea of where your max HR probably is. I know personally people your age with cycling max hr's from 165 to 197. The formula is just a place to start. The 220 minus age work for lots of people (myslef included), but not all. Based on the numbers you report, I think the standard formulae are not very accurate for you. I would suggest using the HRM for a while just observing your HR at various exertion levels to get an idea of what is normal for you. Once you are comfortable you can try to find your max. There are methods on the Internet, but basically try climbing up a long hill increasing your speed gradually until you reach a speed you feel you can not hold for much longer, and hold it! Then when you feel you can't do anymore, do a standing sprint as hard as you can as long as you can. This will find your de facto max hr. Needless to say this is not wise if you are in poor shape, etc. A more upright position will encourage a higher HR at a given effort level due to issues of blood flow against gravity. This can be part of the difference you have noticed in the various positions, it says nothing about what sort of training you might have use for. Have fun! Joseph |
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