There were several rammings by drivers of CM cyclists last night.

During last night's CM ride I witnessed a woman rider being rammed to
the the ground by a taxi. Just one of several incidents by totally
unpoliced and violently enraged drivers, mainly taxis.

The police turned up in very large numbers, about 30 vehicles was one
estimate, when a CMer was arrested and placed in a van but the cops
are nowhere to be seen when cyclists are rammed by drivers. Odd that.
Perhaps the cops are still sore after being defeated by CM in the Law
Lords and since they no longer provide a cycle police escort.

Tut! Tut!

-- .
Critical Mass London
http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
"Get out of my way you f*ing cyclist"

On Jun 26, 6:39*am, Doug wrote:
During last night's CM ride I witnessed a woman rider being rammed to
the the ground by a taxi. Just one of several incidents by totally
unpoliced and violently enraged drivers, mainly taxis.

The police turned up in very large numbers, about 30 vehicles was one
estimate, when a CMer was arrested and placed in a van but the cops
are nowhere to be seen when cyclists are rammed by drivers. Odd that.
Perhaps the cops are still sore after being defeated by CM in the Law
Lords and since they no longer provide a cycle police escort.

Tut! Tut!

Yes Doug, you are quite right that the Police didn't do their job
properly, because they only arrested one CM cyclist, instead of the
whole law breaking lot of them for obstructing the Queen's highway. I
am particularly annoyed that the taxpayer's and council tax payer's
money is being wasted by having to police these unauthorised events!

On 26 June, 07:35, Derek C wrote:
On Jun 26, 6:39*am, Doug wrote: During last night's CM ride I witnessed a woman rider being rammed to
the the ground by a taxi. Just one of several incidents by totally
unpoliced and violently enraged drivers, mainly taxis.

The police turned up in very large numbers, about 30 vehicles was one
estimate, when a CMer was arrested and placed in a van but the cops
are nowhere to be seen when cyclists are rammed by drivers. Odd that.
Perhaps the cops are still sore after being defeated by CM in the Law
Lords and since they no longer provide a cycle police escort.

Tut! Tut!

Yes Doug, you are quite right that the Police didn't do their job
properly, because they only arrested one CM cyclist, instead of the
whole law breaking lot of them for obstructing the Queen's highway. I
am particularly annoyed that the taxpayer's and council tax payer's
money is being wasted by having to police these unauthorised events!

No you are quite wrong of course, legally. As I have already pointed
out, CM is a customarily held procession and has as much right to the
road as any other procession. Besides, the police could only arrest
all of them if all of them were breaking the law. As it is the police
merely pick on individuals to arrest and harass.

-- .
Critical Mass London
http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
Drivers ram cyclists because they can.

Doug gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

No you are quite wrong of course, legally. As I have already pointed
out, CM is a customarily held procession

Yes, you're very proud of that little legal loophole, aren't you?

Strange, then, how frequently you claim you don't actually want it to be
a "procession".

and has as much right to the road as any other procession.

Find me ONE OTHER procession which refuses POINT BLANK to liase with
police and which refuses POINT BLANK to even forewarn the public of the
route.

You seem to place that "right" higher than the right of other people to
go about their normal and perfectly legitimate business. Yet you seem
very unwilling to actually comprehend any of the responsibilities that go
with rights.

Besides, the police could only arrest all of them if all of them were
breaking the law. As it is the police merely pick on individuals to
arrest and harass.

The ones who were breaking the law, y'mean?

Oh, and btw - obstruction and breach of the peace.

Doug wrote:

...totally unpoliced and...

The police turned up in very large numbers

The two lines seem at odds with each other ...

--
Paul - xxx

'96/'97 Landrover Discovery 300 Tdi
Dyna Tech Cro-Mo comp

Doug wrote:
On 26 June, 07:35, Derek C wrote:
On Jun 26, 6:39 am, Doug wrote: During last night's CM ride I witnessed a woman rider being rammed to
the the ground by a taxi. Just one of several incidents by totally
unpoliced and violently enraged drivers, mainly taxis.
The police turned up in very large numbers, about 30 vehicles was one
estimate, when a CMer was arrested and placed in a van but the cops
are nowhere to be seen when cyclists are rammed by drivers. Odd that.
Perhaps the cops are still sore after being defeated by CM in the Law
Lords and since they no longer provide a cycle police escort.
Tut! Tut!
Yes Doug, you are quite right that the Police didn't do their job
properly, because they only arrested one CM cyclist, instead of the
whole law breaking lot of them for obstructing the Queen's highway. I
am particularly annoyed that the taxpayer's and council tax payer's
money is being wasted by having to police these unauthorised events!

No you are quite wrong of course, legally. As I have already pointed
out, CM is a customarily held procession and has as much right to the
road as any other procession.

Indeed they have as much right of the road as anybody else.
But of course with that right to use the road comes the commitment to
act in a reasonable manner (and you have said that you will not act in a
reasonable manner) & obey the rules of the road.

Besides, the police could only arrest
all of them if all of them were breaking the law. As it is the police
merely pick on individuals to arrest and harass.

You mean those that break the law.


-- .
Critical Mass London
http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
Drivers ram cyclists because they can.







--
Tony Dragon

On 06/26/2010 06:39 AM, Doug wrote:
During last night's CM ride I witnessed a woman rider being rammed to
the the ground by a taxi. Just one of several incidents by totally
unpoliced and violently enraged drivers, mainly taxis.

If you want the event policed effectively you should publish the route
in advance.

The police turned up in very large numbers, about 30 vehicles was one
estimate, when a CMer was arrested and placed in a van but the cops
are nowhere to be seen when cyclists are rammed by drivers. Odd that.
Perhaps the cops are still sore after being defeated by CM in the Law
Lords and since they no longer provide a cycle police escort.

Tut! Tut!

Tough! Tough!

--
www.slowbicyclemovement.org - enjoy the ride

Paul - xxx wrote:
Doug wrote:

...totally unpoliced and...

The police turned up in very large numbers

The two lines seem at odds with each other ...


Don't expect consistency from someone who claims to be an anarchist and
yet regularly complains that the State is not doing enough.

Colin Bignell

"Doug" wrote in message
...
During last night's CM ride I witnessed a woman rider being rammed
to
the the ground by a taxi. Just one of several incidents by totally
unpoliced and violently enraged drivers, mainly taxis.

The police turned up in very large numbers, about 30 vehicles was
one
estimate, when a CMer was arrested and placed in a van but the cops
are nowhere to be seen when cyclists are rammed by drivers. Odd
that.
Perhaps the cops are still sore after being defeated by CM in the
Law
Lords and since they no longer provide a cycle police escort.

Tut! Tut!

-- .
Critical Mass London
http://www.criticalmasslondon.org.uk
"Get out of my way you f*ing cyclist"

I was on a mass cycle ride round Southampton a couple of weeks
ago..... whilst a number of cars and buses were delayed for a minute
or two, we were met with a very positive and friendly response.

And we had a police cycle escort.

--
Ian.

On 26 June, 06:39, Doug wrote:
During last night's CM ride I witnessed a woman rider being rammed to
the the ground by a taxi. Just one of several incidents by totally
unpoliced and violently enraged drivers, mainly taxis.

The police turned up in very large numbers, about 30 vehicles was one
estimate, when a CMer was arrested and placed in a van but the cops
are nowhere to be seen when cyclists are rammed by drivers. Odd that.
Perhaps the cops are still sore after being defeated by CM in the Law
Lords and since they no longer provide a cycle police escort.

Tut! Tut!


Totally unpoliced.

The Police turned up in very large numbers.

Are you going even more senile, you silly old ****?

Mike P