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... Seems like the aerodynamic advantage is really a disadvantage during training. So, the recumbent riders training for the race, would use a method of reducing the aerodynamic advantage by adding wind resistance, like putting up a small parachute/sail on the bike that increased drag. Then, their physical reserve would be the same as a diamond frame rider, by not having the drag of the sail during the actual race. This would be like a runner training with a 40 lb. back pack and then not having the back pack during an actual race. Do runners find that training with a 40lb back pack improves their performance come the actual race? I'm guessing the answer is no, since I'm not aware that any do. The recumbent riders training for the race would merely train at higher speeds - there's no rules saying they can't - which would prepare them better for the actual race. |
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Clive George wrote:
Do runners find that training with a 40lb back pack improves their performance come the actual race? I'm guessing the answer is no, since I'm not aware that any do. The recumbent riders training for the race would merely train at higher speeds - there's no rules saying they can't - which would prepare them better for the actual race. Indeed. While there are exceptions[1], it's typically the case that the best practice for X is X. Pete. [1] marathon running, for example -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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Seems like the aerodynamic advantage is really a disadvantage during
training. So, the recumbent riders training for the race, would use a method of reducing the aerodynamic advantage by adding wind resistance, like putting up a small parachute/sail on the bike that increased drag. Then, their physical reserve would be the same as a diamond frame rider, by not having the drag of the sail during the actual race. This would be like a runner training with a 40 lb. back pack and then not having the back pack during an actual race. Do runners find that training with a 40lb back pack improves their performance come the actual race? I'm guessing the answer is no, since I'm not aware that any do. Bad analogy. How about training on a diamond frame by riding into the wind? then switching to a highway bicycle (recumbent) for the actual race. Would that work? Or maybe setting the back brake on partially for drag? Or riding with very soft tires. Or how about this: just using one leg for a mile then switching to the other leg and back and forth. Okay, seriously, there's no other method to get in shape other than riding a little faster? |
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In article , sunsetss0003
@REMOVETHISyahoo.com says... Espressopithecus (Java Man) wrote: In article , sunsetss0003 @REMOVETHISyahoo.com says... Ryan Cousineau wrote: In article , Tom Sherman wrote: "Dear Carl" would rather snipe on Usenet under a cover of smarm (and write complaining letters to the parents of people he disagrees with). Don't ever mess with me, Sherman: I send people John Tesh albums. That is worse than sending weaponized anthrax. No, I really did, What about people you really hate? Barry Manilow? Celine Dion. I crossed him once, but will never make that mistake again. Well, at least it was not Alanis Morissette [1]. I'll take her over Celine Dion any day. Java |
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"Espressopithecus (Java Man)" wrote in message ble.net... In article , sunsetss0003 @REMOVETHISyahoo.com says... Espressopithecus (Java Man) wrote: In article , sunsetss0003 @REMOVETHISyahoo.com says... Ryan Cousineau wrote: In article , Tom Sherman wrote: "Dear Carl" would rather snipe on Usenet under a cover of smarm (and write complaining letters to the parents of people he disagrees with). Don't ever mess with me, Sherman: I send people John Tesh albums. That is worse than sending weaponized anthrax. No, I really did, What about people you really hate? Barry Manilow? Celine Dion. I crossed him once, but will never make that mistake again. Well, at least it was not Alanis Morissette [1]. I'll take her over Celine Dion any day. Java [1] Not to be confused with Allison Moyet, who is both preferable to all of the above and could take any of 'em in a straight fight. Kerry |
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Tom Sherman wrote:
It is the effort that matters, not the actual speed. Up to a point... "So Joe, disaster there as you failed to take the bend at speed... before the ambulance takes you away, what went wrong?" "I don't know, I always got round it fine in training..." Static exercise bikes are a great training aid for the committed, but there are some things they don't do. Also the case for hamstrung bikes. Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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Peter Clinch wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote: It is the effort that matters, not the actual speed. Up to a point... "So Joe, disaster there as you failed to take the bend at speed... before the ambulance takes you away, what went wrong?" "I don't know, I always got round it fine in training..." Static exercise bikes are a great training aid for the committed, but there are some things they don't do. Also the case for hamstrung bikes. Joe? I think you mean Jan. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia “Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken / She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.” |
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