Plan B (does not necessarily exclude Plan A)

landotter wrote:
On Mar 19, 9:20 am, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Plan B would be to get a commuter bike to ride at least in the winter,
and to use for errands. Commuting distance combined with a shopping stop
would be 8 miles or less.

Requirements a

A. Heavy duty frame - should be able to handle 120 kgf of rider and
cargo on less than ideal roads. Rigid fork hard-tail required.
B. Corrosion resistant - a fat tube aluminium alloy frame is fine as
long as it is overbuilt (see A).
C. Decent handling on snow, ruts, gravel, over broken pavement.
D. Mounts for fenders and clearance for fat (60-mm) tires.
E. Mounts for a rear rack that can handle two loaded bucket panniers.
F. Able to use an internally gear hub.
G. Dynamo hub lighting.
H. Hub brakes - drums preferred for theft resistance.
I. ISO 559-mm wheel size preferred for greater fat tire choices.

http://helenscycles.com/itemdetails.cfm?LibId=51876

Electra Amsterdam Balloon 8. Yeah, it's derailleured, but it's a 1X8
system which is about stupidly easy to maintain as it gets.[...]

Does it work when the derailer fills with slush that later freezes?

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll

On Mar 19, 1:51*pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
landotter wrote:
On Mar 19, 9:20 am, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Plan B would be to get a commuter bike to ride at least in the winter,
and to use for errands. Commuting distance combined with a shopping stop
would be 8 miles or less.

Requirements a

A. Heavy duty frame - should be able to handle 120 kgf of rider and
cargo on less than ideal roads. Rigid fork hard-tail required.
B. Corrosion resistant - a fat tube aluminium alloy frame is fine as
long as it is overbuilt (see A).
C. Decent handling on snow, ruts, gravel, over broken pavement.
D. Mounts for fenders and clearance for fat (60-mm) tires.
E. Mounts for a rear rack that can handle two loaded bucket panniers.
F. Able to use an internally gear hub.
G. Dynamo hub lighting.
H. Hub brakes - drums preferred for theft resistance.
I. ISO 559-mm wheel size preferred for greater fat tire choices.

http://helenscycles.com/itemdetails.cfm?LibId=51876

Electra Amsterdam Balloon 8. Yeah, it's derailleured, but it's a 1X8
system which is about stupidly easy to maintain as it gets.[...]

Does it work when the derailer fills with slush that later freezes?

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll- Hide quoted text -

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Its not the derailleur that causes the problem in the land of snow and
ice known as Iowa. Its the freehub itself that stops working. The
little pawls stop being pressed outward by their springs and stop
engaging the freehub body. So you end up with a freewheel in both
directions. Internal hub might solve the problem. But a fixed gear/
single speed definitely will. Single speed until the cold stops the
freewheel from working. Then flip the wheel around and go fixed until
it warms up.

On Mar 19, 9:20*am, Tom Sherman
wrote:
Plan B would be to get a commuter bike to ride at least in the winter,
and to use for errands. Commuting distance combined with a shopping stop
would be 8 miles or less.

Requirements a

A. Heavy duty frame - should be able to handle 120 kgf of rider and
cargo on less than ideal roads. Rigid fork hard-tail required.
B. Corrosion resistant - a fat tube aluminium alloy frame is fine as
long as it is overbuilt (see A).
C. Decent handling on snow, ruts, gravel, over broken pavement.
D. Mounts for fenders and clearance for fat (60-mm) tires.
E. Mounts for a rear rack that can handle two loaded bucket panniers.
F. Able to use an internally gear hub.
G. Dynamo hub lighting.
H. Hub brakes - drums preferred for theft resistance.
I. ISO 559-mm wheel size preferred for greater fat tire choices.

Candidates?

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll

http://www.breezerbikes.com/ A, D, E, F (3, 7, or 8), G, I included.
B not needed. C not having ridden one, I don't have an opinion. H
rim brakes.

Tom Sherman wrote:
Plan B would be to get a commuter bike to ride at least in the winter,
and to use for errands. Commuting distance combined with a shopping stop
would be 8 miles or less.
Requirements a
A. Heavy duty frame - should be able to handle 120 kgf of rider and
cargo on less than ideal roads. Rigid fork hard-tail required.
B. Corrosion resistant - a fat tube aluminium alloy frame is fine as
long as it is overbuilt (see A).
C. Decent handling on snow, ruts, gravel, over broken pavement.
D. Mounts for fenders and clearance for fat (60-mm) tires.
E. Mounts for a rear rack that can handle two loaded bucket panniers.
F. Able to use an internally gear hub.
G. Dynamo hub lighting.
H. Hub brakes - drums preferred for theft resistance.
I. ISO 559-mm wheel size preferred for greater fat tire choices.

landotter wrote:
http://helenscycles.com/itemdetails.cfm?LibId=51876
Electra Amsterdam Balloon 8. Yeah, it's derailleured, but it's a 1X8
system which is about stupidly easy to maintain as it gets.[...]

Tom Sherman wrote:
Does it work when the derailer fills with slush that later freezes?

Frozen gear changer slush on the bike next to me doesn't
affect my fixie at all.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Andrew Muzi wrote:
Tom Sherman wrote:
Plan B would be to get a commuter bike to ride at least in the winter,
and to use for errands. Commuting distance combined with a shopping
stop
would be 8 miles or less.
Requirements a
A. Heavy duty frame - should be able to handle 120 kgf of rider and
cargo on less than ideal roads. Rigid fork hard-tail required.
B. Corrosion resistant - a fat tube aluminium alloy frame is fine as
long as it is overbuilt (see A).
C. Decent handling on snow, ruts, gravel, over broken pavement.
D. Mounts for fenders and clearance for fat (60-mm) tires.
E. Mounts for a rear rack that can handle two loaded bucket panniers.
F. Able to use an internally gear hub.
G. Dynamo hub lighting.
H. Hub brakes - drums preferred for theft resistance.
I. ISO 559-mm wheel size preferred for greater fat tire choices.

landotter wrote:
http://helenscycles.com/itemdetails.cfm?LibId=51876
Electra Amsterdam Balloon 8. Yeah, it's derailleured, but it's a 1X8
system which is about stupidly easy to maintain as it gets.[...]

Tom Sherman wrote:
Does it work when the derailer fills with slush that later freezes?

Frozen gear changer slush on the bike next to me doesn't affect my fixie
at all.

I oddly enough [1] share Chalo's viewpoint on fixies - I do not like
being connected to anything that keeps moving on it own like that.

[1] Considering our disagreements of other cycling preferences.

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Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll