Any of You Do Trikes -- in A Metro Area, Too??

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"NYC XYZ" wrote in message
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GaryG wrote:


Hell no!

GG


The girls I wind up meeting are almost always scared or uncomfortable
when it comes to bike-riding, so trikes seem like a nice way to get
them involved.


Are those "girls" about 5 years old? Or, are they closer to 85? Those seem
to be the typical ages for females interested in tricycles.

GG

GaryG wrote:


Are those "girls" about 5 years old? Or, are they closer to 85? Those seem
to be the typical ages for females interested in tricycles.

GG


That too!

But why did you say "hell no" so vociferously for?

NYC XYZ wrote:
GaryG wrote:


Are those "girls" about 5 years old? Or, are they closer to 85? Those seem
to be the typical ages for females interested in tricycles.

GG



That too!

But why did you say "hell no" so vociferously for?

Interesting observation. The girls I know from about 5 up want 2 wheels
to keep up with the boys and I had to teach some of them how to break
the training wheel habit to ride with me and my grandkids. Over 16 is
another story since cars are the cool thing. Some of the 18 year olds go
with me on the exercise trips and every female I know over 50 seems to
be piloting one of those powered scooter chairs. There seems to be a
mindset around here that 50 is the time to start acting old and quitting
any real physical activity, but why??? Riding with a bunch of 13 to 18
year olds, mostly girls, mostly talking, really keeps me up on the
latest gossip, er, happenings. The boys tend not to ride but would
rather pose while throwing a football. Group rides are not all out
training but accumulating 30 miles in a day is still better than none.
Bill

Bill Baka wrote:

Interesting observation. The girls I know from about 5 up want 2 wheels
to keep up with the boys and I had to teach some of them how to break
the training wheel habit to ride with me and my grandkids. Over 16 is
another story since cars are the cool thing.

Cars are fun on an open road, but otherwise just way too much hassle.
I honestly never did see the appeal. Barely do, still. I consider it
a convenience, not a "lifestyle" like the bicycle is. Besides, I think
cars are like television -- quite evil, insofar as they hasten the
corruption of character with certain people.

Some of the 18 year olds go
with me on the exercise trips and every female I know over 50 seems to
be piloting one of those powered scooter chairs. There seems to be a
mindset around here that 50 is the time to start acting old and quitting
any real physical activity, but why???

Nothing betrays the inanity of our human race than how many give up the
activities that actually help keep them young or younger and settle
instead for obsessions which help give them the mere appearance of
youth, like Rogain, Viagra, or Botox.

Riding with a bunch of 13 to 18
year olds, mostly girls, mostly talking, really keeps me up on the
latest gossip, er, happenings. The boys tend not to ride but would
rather pose while throwing a football. Group rides are not all out
training but accumulating 30 miles in a day is still better than none.
Bill

I'm most likely hanging around the proverbial wrong crowd, but the
girls I know have barely the mildest of curiosity in cycling, and then
basically because I'm into it myself....

Oh, BTW, I'm a sexist so I don't often distinguish "girls" and
"women"...what you say about "female kids" is pretty interesting, and
confirms the finding that sports and physical activity make for more
independent and trouble-free females. I'm only a sexist because most
females easily conform to stereotypes, but I'm all for female
empowerment so that I can finally find both tits and wits, for a
change!

Anyway, I seem to find the serious, but non-racing, cyclists to be
older folks...sheesh....

Peter Clinch wrote:


Maybe I'm reading that a different way than you intended... I saw it as
"appeal more to women than men", where maybe you meant "trikes appeal to
women more than bikes".

Yes.

My sample base of lady 'benters is far too
small

It's okay; you can whisper -- I won't tell!

to draw conclusions from viz bikes vs. trikes, but there certainly
isn't any obvious shortage of men on trikes.

I've yet to see one out on the streets of NYC, and have only seen
'bents on about three or four occasions in twenty-five years!

Pete.
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"NYC XYZ" wrote in message
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Peter Clinch wrote:
[...]

to draw conclusions from viz bikes vs. trikes, but there certainly
isn't any obvious shortage of men on trikes.

I've yet to see one out on the streets of NYC, and have only seen
'bents on about three or four occasions in twenty-five years!

Yes, those nuts in the UK are always telling us how popular bikes are over
there in their tiny kingdom by the sea. However, like you, I hardly ever see
anyone on bikes, let alone recumbent bikes - and recumbent trikes are
extremely rare. I have only seen a few in action in my lifetime. In fact, I
have seen more sitting in store windows than I have ever seen on the road.
One of the reasons for this is because they are so damn expensive. If they
ever get the price down to something reasonable, it is possible that we will
see more of them in the future because there is a fun factor that is
exclusive to them.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"NYC XYZ" wrote in message
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Hey, trikes do look like lotsa fun! More expensive, hmm. Anyone in
NYC (or some other metro area) do trikes? Besides poor Jeff Grippe
(hope all is well).


poor Jeff Grippe is planning a comeback and is getting better slowly.

Seriously, I have ridden my Tricruiser (the very same one that got hit) up
the West Side Bike Trail and it was a blast. I encountered many other
recumbents but no other trikes on that day. I don't imagine that MetroNorth
would allow me to take a trike on the train and lugging it in and out of the
subway would be a real pain. But why would you need the subway if you have
the trike? I was able to get into Westchester and the Bronx by going over
the Broadway Bridge. You can get to Queens over the 59th Street Bridge and
Brooklyn over the Brooklyn Bridge.

I have always felt safer on a trike because I'm so much bigger and tend to
get more attention from drivers. On the other hand, based upon my
experiences I wouldn't use my feelings about the matter as a guide.
Obviously I was mistaken. I would feel safe in Manhattan only when sticking
to bike paths that are physically separated from automobile traffic.

On the day I came home from the hospital, my TA (Transportations
Alternatives) members welcome kit was waiting for me with other unopened
mail. The cover article of my first issue of the magazine was about the
rising number of bicyclists that were killed by automobiles. Wasn't that a
coincidence?

For the future, I plan on riding a Leitra and taking only less traveled
roads (which interestingly enough will keep me off the official bike route
completely). The Leitra will be lit up like a Christmas tree when I ride at
night (which will be rare I hope).

Jeff

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"Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" wrote
Rich ? wrote:
Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman wrote:

Joelw135 wrote:
http://www.bentrideronline.com/ in the speciality listing there are
many trike users. Ask your question there.

Keep in mind that the aforementioned forum is moderated

The quality of moderation is the key. bentrideronline is a private
enterprise, but in my experience, it provides a decent perspective
in news articles and reviews. Their forums seem to offer civil
discussion within the bounds of moderation.

There are many other forums that offer otherwise...

Others may calibrate differently.

[bentrideronline forums moderated] (i.e. censored).

Then by that measure, so too, censored are the New York Times,
Fox News, ABC, NPR, etc... All of these, and bentrideronline,
of course, lack the official standing and scope of control for
actual censorship of ideas to obtain.

[Rich wrote]
Which keeps the rif-raf out and makes it an excellent place to get
actual information on trikes.

Ignore what I wrote at your peril.

Certainly, know the characteristics of the medium, but in this
case, *peril*?

People often mistake USENET newsgroups as sources
for information. Trust the "information" here, at your peril,
indeed!

It is possible for an intelligent and informed person to sort the wheat
from the chaff, and with some research the general credibility of any
regular Usenet poster can be determined with a suitable level of
accuracy.

On a moderated/censored forum, a non-moderator does not know what has
been suppressed, and furthermore, no one knows what has been
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If ya can't stand the heat...

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Usenet is exactly that, for the intelligent reader with proper
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