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Alexi Grewal: worst teammate ever
Fred wrote:
anyway, what he said wasn't the point It is now. |
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Alexi Grewal: worst teammate ever
On 12/14/2010 11:58 AM, A. Dumas wrote:
Fred wrote: anyway, what he said wasn't the point It is now. John Lieswyn called me a moron once. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...4bbb247bbf2e47 Fred Flintstein |
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Alexi Grewal: worst teammate ever
On Dec 14, 7:22*am, Fred wrote:
On Dec 14, 1:53*am, Ryan Cousineau wrote: On Dec 12, 6:33*pm, Fred wrote: First ever bike race I ever saw (not counting the TdF on tv), I watched AG soft-pedaling up a climb after he'd come unglued from a breakaway group. *It was a stage race, and I had no idea about or appreciation of why he'd just sit up like he did. *In retrospect, I know exactly why he eased up, but at the time I didn't understand. Anyway, not knowing any better, I tried to encourage him up the climb. *He could've just graciously accepted my cheers, but no, he has to say something truly smart-ass. *All I could think at the time was what an ass he was. Fred And you can't remember what he said?! WORST! STORY! EVER!!1! Just 'cause I didn't tell you what he said doesn't mean I don't remember what he said... anyway, what he said wasn't the point, and you know that. Dumbass - So what'd he say? thanks, Kurgan. presented by Gringioni. |
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Alexi Grewal: worst teammate ever
On Dec 14, 4:08*am, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
My point is that emotionality isn't a deficiency if you're manifestly great at riding a bike. It is a problem if you're merely incredibly good at riding a bike. dumbass, with these roller coaster guys when they are in a depressive state they stop training, go AWOL or walk out on their team. that will affect your ability to win races. guys like cavendish and armstrong exhibit more typical dickish/jockish behavior. |
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Alexi Grewal: worst teammate ever
On Dec 14, 12:44*pm, Fred Flintstein
wrote: On 12/14/2010 11:58 AM, A. Dumas wrote: Fred wrote: anyway, what he said wasn't the point It is now. John Lieswyn called me a moron once. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.b...4bbb247bbf2e47 Fred Flintstein Well, are you? Fred |
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Alexi Grewal: worst teammate ever
On Dec 14, 10:58*am, "A. Dumas" wrote:
Fred wrote: anyway, what he said wasn't the point It is now. no it isn't. |
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Alexi Grewal: worst teammate ever
Amit Ghosh wrote:
On Dec 13, 12:56*am, MagillaGorilla wrote: Grewal and Decanio likely exceeded their potential because of their manic hyper-emotions. *Their overall underachievement long-term was probably due to typical genetic shortcomings vis-a-vis not having what the GT guys have (with or without dope). on their best days they were good enough to be euro pro (if not GT winners) but they didn't succeed in that arena. hyper emotions can't make up for not having the underlying ability. Guys like Tom Danielson, Pantani, and F. Vandenbroucke are more like the headcases you described. * i wouldn't put danielson in the same boat. all those other guys had depressive phases where they walked out on their teams or pulled disappearing acts and stopped training for long stretches. if a guy is still training and showing up to races, he isn't in that depressive state. danielson is more of a typical superstitious hypochondriac. All TD has to do is get into a car wreck in Aspen or bang another teammate's wife.... Magilla |
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Alexi Grewal: worst teammate ever
Fred Flintstein wrote:
On 12/13/2010 9:02 AM, Amit Ghosh wrote: On Dec 13, 12:56 am, wrote: Grewal and Decanio likely exceeded their potential because of their manic hyper-emotions. Their overall underachievement long-term was probably due to typical genetic shortcomings vis-a-vis not having what the GT guys have (with or without dope). on their best days they were good enough to be euro pro (if not GT winners) but they didn't succeed in that arena. hyper emotions can't make up for not having the underlying ability. Guys like Tom Danielson, Pantani, and F. Vandenbroucke are more like the headcases you described. i wouldn't put danielson in the same boat. all those other guys had depressive phases where they walked out on their teams or pulled disappearing acts and stopped training for long stretches. if a guy is still training and showing up to races, he isn't in that depressive state. danielson is more of a typical superstitious hypochondriac. Dumbasses, For an awful lot of riders a top ten in a grand tour represents their top end, and especially if they aren't exceptional bike handlers. Fred Flintstein Try they need better dope. Magilla |
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Alexi Grewal: worst teammate ever
"Kurgan. presented by Gringioni." wrote:
On Dec 13, 7:49*am, Amit Ghosh wrote: On Dec 13, 10:30*am, Fred Flintstein wrote: Dumbasses, For an awful lot of riders a top ten in a grand tour represents their top end, and especially if they aren't exceptional bike handlers. He's never shown any indication that he's capable of more. I agree. Same goes for Ekimov or Danny Pate or Popovych or any number of riders who were very good at the u-23/amateur level but supposedly didn't live up to expectations at the top level. But Danielson has added comic elements: strange stomach ailments, racetime jitters and eskimo blood. Dumbass - I'm sure Danielson isn't that bad, but if you can't relax, it drains your adrenals. thanks, Kurgan. presented by Gringioni. I betya' Stepphanie drains TD's ballsack. http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...w=1159&bih=844 Magilla |
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Alexi Grewal: worst teammate ever
On 12/14/2010 7:57 PM, MagillaGorilla wrote:
Fred Flintstein wrote: On 12/13/2010 9:02 AM, Amit Ghosh wrote: On Dec 13, 12:56 am, wrote: Grewal and Decanio likely exceeded their potential because of their manic hyper-emotions. Their overall underachievement long-term was probably due to typical genetic shortcomings vis-a-vis not having what the GT guys have (with or without dope). on their best days they were good enough to be euro pro (if not GT winners) but they didn't succeed in that arena. hyper emotions can't make up for not having the underlying ability. Guys like Tom Danielson, Pantani, and F. Vandenbroucke are more like the headcases you described. i wouldn't put danielson in the same boat. all those other guys had depressive phases where they walked out on their teams or pulled disappearing acts and stopped training for long stretches. if a guy is still training and showing up to races, he isn't in that depressive state. danielson is more of a typical superstitious hypochondriac. Dumbasses, For an awful lot of riders a top ten in a grand tour represents their top end, and especially if they aren't exceptional bike handlers. Fred Flintstein Try they need better dope. Magilla About TD? Seriously? The guy that got his start with Coach Chem? Fred Flintstein |
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