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Ottawa driver gets n2 years 4 hitting & inuring 5 cyclists & leaving scene
Here's the link:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/driver-hit-...112411742.html He got more time for leaving the scene than he did for hitting them whilst they were riding single file in a bicycle lane.. I wonder what he would have got if he had stuck around after hitting them? One of the victims said 2 years was fair. That's a little less than five months per cyclist hit. Interesting. Cheers |
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Ottawa driver gets n2 years 4 hitting & inuring 5 cyclists &leaving scene
On Jan 10, 6:28*am, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
Here's the link: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/driver-hit-...its-sentence-t... He got more time for leaving the scene than he did for hitting them whilst they were riding single file in a bicycle lane.. I wonder what he would have got if he had stuck around after hitting them? One of the victims said 2 years was fair. That's a little less than five months per cyclist hit. Interesting. Bicyclists will always be soft targets to those within a steel cage. -- JS. |
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Ottawa driver gets n2 years 4 hitting & inuring 5 cyclists & leaving scene
Per Sir Ridesalot:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/driver-hit-...112411742.html "Luangpakham said he would have turned around if he knew he hit them...".... but then there was the photo of the van's front window smashed in. What am I missing? -- Pete Cresswell |
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Ottawa driver gets n2 years 4 hitting & inuring 5 cyclists &leaving scene
On 1/9/2012 5:18 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Sir Ridesalot: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/driver-hit-...112411742.html "Luangpakham said he would have turned around if he knew he hit them...".... but then there was the photo of the van's front window smashed in. What am I missing? This has been on the news a lot here. Most coverage points to the fact that the cyclists were complying with all statutes - in the bike lane, single file etc. It's good that it's clear that this wasn't a case of riders blowing stops etc. and I'm glad that the media is making that point. They are also calling for more driver education WRT cycling. Another good thing. One of the victims was saying that there's no way that he didn't notice. Not all of the victims are as forgiving as the one quoted in the article. He apparently took out 4 of the 5 cyclists. And like you say, the windshield has a cyclist sized hole in it. Apparently the issue with the sentence is that there was no alcohol or any drugs causing the driver to be impaired. There was no evidence of intent so they maxed him on the one provable criminal charge which was leaving the scene. Jay can probably comment on that - IANAL but unfortunately, I don't think that being an asshole is categorically illegal. They say that he will face ~9 million in civil suits, which is a lot for a law suit here. So there is that. |
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Ottawa driver gets n2 years 4 hitting & inuring 5 cyclists &leaving scene
On Jan 10, 10:38*am, Duane Hebert wrote:
On 1/9/2012 5:18 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote: Per Sir Ridesalot: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/driver-hit-...its-sentence-t.... "Luangpakham said he would have turned around if he knew he hit them...".... but then there was the photo of the van's front window smashed in. What am I missing? This has been on the news a lot here. *Most coverage points to the fact that the cyclists were complying with all statutes - in the bike lane, single file etc. *It's good that it's clear that this wasn't a case of riders blowing stops etc. and I'm glad that the media is making that point. *They are also calling for more driver education WRT cycling. Another good thing. One of the victims was saying that there's no way that he didn't notice. * Not all of the victims are as forgiving as the one quoted in the article. *He apparently took out 4 of the 5 cyclists. *And like you say, the windshield has a cyclist sized hole in it. Apparently the issue with the sentence is that there was no alcohol or any drugs causing the driver to be impaired. *There *was no evidence of intent so they maxed him on the one provable criminal charge which was leaving the scene. *Jay can probably comment on that - IANAL but unfortunately, I don't think that being an asshole is categorically illegal. Actually he was convicted of dangerous driving as well,but most of the sentence was for leaving the scene,BTW he turned himself in after he got home. |
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Ottawa driver gets n2 years 4 hitting & inuring 5 cyclists & leaving scene
In article
, Mister2u wrote: On Jan 10, 10:38Â*am, Duane Hebert wrote: On 1/9/2012 5:18 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote: Per Sir Ridesalot: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/driver-hit-...its-sentence-t... "Luangpakham said he would have turned around if he knew he hit them...".... but then there was the photo of the van's front window smashed in. What am I missing? This has been on the news a lot here. Â*Most coverage points to the fact that the cyclists were complying with all statutes - in the bike lane, single file etc. Â*It's good that it's clear that this wasn't a case of riders blowing stops etc. and I'm glad that the media is making that point. Â*They are also calling for more driver education WRT cycling. Another good thing. One of the victims was saying that there's no way that he didn't notice. Â* Not all of the victims are as forgiving as the one quoted in the article. Â*He apparently took out 4 of the 5 cyclists. Â*And like you say, the windshield has a cyclist sized hole in it. Apparently the issue with the sentence is that there was no alcohol or any drugs causing the driver to be impaired. Â*There Â*was no evidence of intent so they maxed him on the one provable criminal charge which was leaving the scene. Â*Jay can probably comment on that - IANAL but unfortunately, I don't think that being an asshole is categorically illegal. Actually he was convicted of dangerous driving as well,but most of the sentence was for leaving the scene,BTW he turned himself in after he got home. And sobered up? -- Michael Press |
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Ottawa driver gets n2 years 4 hitting & inuring 5 cyclists &leaving scene
On Jan 13, 4:57*am, Michael Press wrote:
In article , *Mister2u wrote: On Jan 10, 10:38*am, Duane Hebert wrote: On 1/9/2012 5:18 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote: Per Sir Ridesalot: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/driver-hit-...its-sentence-t... "Luangpakham said he would have turned around if he knew he hit them...".... but then there was the photo of the van's front window smashed in. What am I missing? This has been on the news a lot here. *Most coverage points to the fact that the cyclists were complying with all statutes - in the bike lane, single file etc. *It's good that it's clear that this wasn't a case of riders blowing stops etc. and I'm glad that the media is making that point. *They are also calling for more driver education WRT cycling.. Another good thing. One of the victims was saying that there's no way that he didn't notice. * Not all of the victims are as forgiving as the one quoted in the article. *He apparently took out 4 of the 5 cyclists. *And like you say, the windshield has a cyclist sized hole in it. Apparently the issue with the sentence is that there was no alcohol or any drugs causing the driver to be impaired. *There *was no evidence of intent so they maxed him on the one provable criminal charge which was leaving the scene. *Jay can probably comment on that - IANAL but unfortunately, I don't think that being an asshole is categorically illegal. Actually he was convicted of dangerous driving as well,but most of the sentence was for leaving the scene,BTW he turned himself in after he got home. And sobered up? Could be. But I've heard of the opposite tactic: Many years ago, the lawyer who was iron-fisted overlord of the locally ruling Democratic party managed to smash his car right through the front doors of the brand new main post office late at night. Of course, he claimed he had been perfectly sober while driving. But it rattled him so much that he immediately hoofed it to the closest bar and downed several drinks. IIRC, he was ticketed only for losing control of his vehicle, or some such thing, with negligible penalty. - Frank Krygowski |
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Ottawa driver gets n2 years 4 hitting & inuring 5 cyclists & leaving scene
On Mon, 9 Jan 2012 11:28:15 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote: Here's the link: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/driver-hit-...112411742.html He got more time for leaving the scene than he did for hitting them whilst they were riding single file in a bicycle lane.. I wonder what he would have got if he had stuck around after hitting them? One of the victims said 2 years was fair. That's a little less than five months per cyclist hit. Interesting. Hmmm... News clip from about a year ago. Apparently the 2 year sentence is only for the criminal charges (i.e. dangerous operation of a vehicle and leaving the scene). One of the victims was suing for damages: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=457117468860 Notice how Luangpakham attempted to blame the victim(s). I'll leave his explanation of how he didn't notice that he had hit the riders and drove away with a severely bashed in windshield to the apparently clueless jury. Besides the 2 years, methinks he should be required to purchase or borrow a bicycle, and ride the city streets and highways for a few hours per week. If he survives, it will be a good lesson. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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Ottawa driver gets n2 years 4 hitting & inuring 5 cyclists & leaving scene
Per Frank Krygowski:
Many years ago, the lawyer who was iron-fisted overlord of the locally ruling Democratic party managed to smash his car right through the front doors of the brand new main post office late at night. Of course, he claimed he had been perfectly sober while driving. But it rattled him so much that he immediately hoofed it to the closest bar and downed several drinks. IIRC, he was ticketed only for losing control of his vehicle, or some such thing, with negligible penalty. Ted Kennedy should have had such presence of mind.... -) -- Pete Cresswell |
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Ottawa driver gets n2 years 4 hitting & inuring 5 cyclists &leaving scene
On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 02:21:52 +0000
Phil W Lee wrote: Besides the 2 years, methinks he should be required to purchase or borrow a bicycle, and ride the city streets and highways for a few hours per week. If he survives, it will be a good lesson. And if he doesn't, it will serve as a warning to the others. Cyclists or cagers? Mike |
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