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On 5/9/19 10:18 am, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/4/2019 4:42 PM, James wrote: On 5/9/19 7:20 am, AMuzi wrote: I don't know. I'm happy that you are happy. If this works for you, by all means do it more. Your post reminded me of Chalo's all time pithy RBT comment about cycling-specific energy bars and drinks, "I just eat actual food." Works for me too. I ate a meat pie mid ride once.Â* The day was cold.Â* The pie was hot. Seemed like a good idea at the time.Â* It wasn't though.Â* I was regurgitating meat all the way home. Some actual food is counter productive. It's a good story though! At 85 miles into a sunny but windy 40F late September century, my friend and I were just out of everything and stopped to eat some field corn (dairy cow maize, not sweet corn). The effect was miraculous and within minutes we were back riding. From a digestion point of view, corn is very different from meat. I refuelled with a couple of donuts and a powerade drink, with about 20km to go on a 250km ride, one day. Similarly miraculous. -- JS |
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On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 18:00:25 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
wrote: You could break your teeth on field corn. *Ripe* field corn is hard. At the milk stage it's quite edible either cooked or raw. Some people prefer field corn to sweet corn for roasting ears -- and if it were available, I might too, now that sweet corn has been bred to be a fair substitute for sugar. (A friend of a friend got a contract to grow "baby-food corn" one year. "Corn flour" sounds much better on an ingredient list than "corn syrup".) -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ |
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On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 00:06:25 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
wrote: James wrote: On 5/9/19 7:20 am, AMuzi wrote: I don't know. I'm happy that you are happy. If this works for you, by all means do it more. Your post reminded me of Chalo's all time pithy RBT comment about cycling-specific energy bars and drinks, "I just eat actual food." Works for me too. I ate a meat pie mid ride once. The day was cold. The pie was hot. Seemed like a good idea at the time. It wasn't though. I was regurgitating meat all the way home. Some actual food is counter productive. During one long ride where I was starting to bonk, the combination of a Cornish pastie and a half litre of chocolate milk was damn near miraculous, so maybe there’s an optimum amount of meat. Actually the body digests protein relatively slowly so perhaps the beef wasn't what made the difference. The gravy and pastry might well have been the real energy producers :-) -- cheers, John B. |
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On 9/4/2019 2:20 PM, AMuzi wrote:
snip Your post reminded me of Chalo's all time pithy RBT comment about cycling-specific energy bars and drinks, "I just eat actual food." Works for me too. I saw an ad for a a cookbook with recipes for "portable" snacks for cyclists: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1937715000. It's been out for six years, though I had never heard of it. Published by VeloPress. |
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On Wed, 04 Sep 2019 22:16:39 -0400,
Joy Beeson wrote: On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 18:00:25 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie wrote: You could break your teeth on field corn. *Ripe* field corn is hard. At the milk stage it's quite edible either cooked or raw. Some people prefer field corn to sweet corn for roasting ears Yes indeed. My wife grew up on a farm, and late summer every year "harvests" a few ears from local fields. The eating season here is pretty much over now. -- Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA |
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jbeattie writes:
On Wednesday, September 4, 2019 at 5:25:24 PM UTC-7, Radey Shouman wrote: AMuzi writes: On 9/4/2019 4:42 PM, James wrote: On 5/9/19 7:20 am, AMuzi wrote: I don't know. I'm happy that you are happy. If this works for you, by all means do it more. Your post reminded me of Chalo's all time pithy RBT comment about cycling-specific energy bars and drinks, "I just eat actual food." Works for me too. I ate a meat pie mid ride once. The day was cold. The pie was hot. Seemed like a good idea at the time. It wasn't though. I was regurgitating meat all the way home. Some actual food is counter productive. It's a good story though! At 85 miles into a sunny but windy 40F late September century, my friend and I were just out of everything and stopped to eat some field corn (dairy cow maize, not sweet corn). The effect was miraculous and within minutes we were back riding. Raw? No sorghum or onions available? Did you eat the stalk and leaves, silage-style? I have sampled roadside apples and concord grapes, both quite uncultivated, and rode away refreshed. You could break your teeth on field corn. It's what Joerg uses to bang on his fence nail to repair his chain. The opportunistic food of choice around here is blackberries. https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8388/2...24b3da59_z.jpg We have blackberries here too, although they are done for the year. They're edible, but they're not nearly as tasty as PNW blackberries, tending to sour rather than tart, and not juicy enough. There are raspberries in July, again not as good as PNW blackcaps, and mulberries, which are a kind of meh compared to those I remember from New Mexico. The wild blueberries are good, although I live too far south to see many, and they're still not as good as huckleberries. There is a now-abandoned cranberry bog in my town, I'll have to go check that out in a month or so. I've got to go pick some before the season is over. A lot of my favorite bushes were looking pretty lousy this year, maybe because of the dry summer. You can also find fruit trees of various types -- a lot of mystery apples. I scavenged some windfall peaches last week -- I figure if you let them fall they're more or less abandoned. Massachusetts peaches are surprisingly good, albeit not very plentiful. Back in Texas I used to find roadside figs and loquats. I should have trapped the chicken that chased me a few weeks ago and eaten that! Show that chicken who is an apex predator! Chickens tend to have friends. Possums have none, and can be hand caught; just grab 'em by the tail. We also have these things called stores where you can buy God's perfect energy food: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/07...g?v=1559954199 Mmmmm, donettes. -- Jay Beattie. -- |
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AMuzi writes:
On 9/4/2019 7:25 PM, Radey Shouman wrote: AMuzi writes: On 9/4/2019 4:42 PM, James wrote: On 5/9/19 7:20 am, AMuzi wrote: I don't know. I'm happy that you are happy. If this works for you, by all means do it more. Your post reminded me of Chalo's all time pithy RBT comment about cycling-specific energy bars and drinks, "I just eat actual food." Works for me too. I ate a meat pie mid ride once. The day was cold. The pie was hot. Seemed like a good idea at the time. It wasn't though. I was regurgitating meat all the way home. Some actual food is counter productive. It's a good story though! At 85 miles into a sunny but windy 40F late September century, my friend and I were just out of everything and stopped to eat some field corn (dairy cow maize, not sweet corn). The effect was miraculous and within minutes we were back riding. Raw? No sorghum or onions available? Did you eat the stalk and leaves, silage-style? I have sampled roadside apples and concord grapes, both quite uncultivated, and rode away refreshed. Just the hard school-bus-yellow raw kernels. No sauce like hunger, and it's good to have teeth you can rely upon. I have also pilfered an apple occasionally[1] but more from curiosity (always pleasantly surprised!) than desperation. [1]A Milwaukee Journal photographer snapped me riding no hands in mid-bite near an orchard and it was printed. Ouch. **Local businessman caught red handed** I would have to ride a fair way to get to an apple orchard, but I work in an office park that was one not too many years ago -- right now I can pick some moderately good apples from some random trees in a Walgreen's parking lot next door. |
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On 9/4/2019 9:00 PM, jbeattie wrote:
The opportunistic food of choice around here is blackberries. https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8388/2...24b3da59_z.jpg I've enjoyed plenty of blackberries mid-ride. But my favorite are mulberries. I'm not sure, but I think the local Italian immigrants were fond of mulberries when they settled here. The trees seem more common in the neighborhoods that were once Italian. The good part is they're pretty easy to spot, because the pavement is filled with black spots from fallen fruit when they're in season. The bad parts are 1) It's impossible to avoid crushing the fallen fruit, so one's cycling shoes get messy soles; and 2) the season is very short. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On 9/5/2019 11:21 AM, Radey Shouman wrote:
We have blackberries here too, although they are done for the year. They're edible, but they're not nearly as tasty as PNW blackberries... I agree, the best roadside blackberries I remember were in the PNW. IIRC, it was on Sauvie Island, which is not far from where Jay lives. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Thursday, September 5, 2019 at 1:21:40 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/5/2019 11:21 AM, Radey Shouman wrote: We have blackberries here too, although they are done for the year. They're edible, but they're not nearly as tasty as PNW blackberries... I agree, the best roadside blackberries I remember were in the PNW. IIRC, it was on Sauvie Island, which is not far from where Jay lives. Lots of big bushes on Sauvie Island, and I used to ride out there with my Tupperware container and pick, but for the last few years I've been lazy and picked on SW Terwilliger walking trail with my wife or picked on the bike path coming home from work, but like I said, the berries are pretty thin this year. Apart from crop size, some years I just forget to pick -- except maybe when I'm riding and grab a few along the road. I waited too long this year and doubt we'll even get a pie together. Some years, we make pies to excess. The next big thing on Sauvie Island will be the pumpkin patch and corn maze, and cars backed up all the way to HWY 30. We don't know what happened to this kid! http://krugersfarm.com/wp-content/up...ntrance-02.jpg -- Jay Beattie. |
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