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Old June 17th 17, 07:34 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Frank, On my Eddy Merckx I was using an old chain so I would lube it with Rock n Roll and let it dry over-night.

The chain would stay relatively clean though it did deposit a layer of something on the rear derailleur pulleys that was a real pain in the butt to get off.

When you're using your wax technique do you find any build-up on the cogs, rings and pulleys?
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Old June 17th 17, 08:14 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 2017-06-17 11:34, wrote:
Frank, On my Eddy Merckx I was using an old chain so I would lube it
with Rock n Roll and let it dry over-night.

The chain would stay relatively clean though it did deposit a layer
of something on the rear derailleur pulleys that was a real pain in
the butt to get off.

When you're using your wax technique do you find any build-up on the
cogs, rings and pulleys?


Which of their three lubes did you use?

http://www.cyclingweekly.com/reviews...gold-lubricant

Is it better than White Lightning? The process seems quite wasteful,
dripping on a lot and then wiping away the run-off.

I've had the pulley gunk with any lube so far, whether chainsaw oil,
motor oil or some fancy bike product. I take a knife, hold the blade
against the pulley, turn the crank backwards ... splat ... a clump falls
onto the work bench. When cleaning the MTB chain before a re-lube I
collect a total of about one shotglass full of gunk from the pulleys,
cogs and chain. Dirt, clay, sap, caked animal poop, "star thistle
mousse", and so on.

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Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/
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Old June 18th 17, 04:12 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 1:15:35 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 6/17/2017 2:34 PM, wrote:
Frank, On my Eddy Merckx I was using an old chain so I would lube it with Rock n Roll and let it dry over-night.

The chain would stay relatively clean though it did deposit a layer of something on the rear derailleur pulleys that was a real pain in the butt to get off.

When you're using your wax technique do you find any build-up on the cogs, rings and pulleys?


Just a very tiny bit, about as much as if a kid with a crayon drew the
tooth outline just inboard of the actual teeth. If I really want to
clean the bike, I wipe that off with a dry rag.

But I don't clean or polish my bikes very often. Fortunately, I don't
need to. They look clean enough from 10 feet away, but they'll never win
a concours d'elegance. For example, I don't own a bike that doesn't have
nicks and scratches in the paint.

We did a club ride on our 39-year-old tandem today. One friend said
"The paint looks pretty good for 39 years old." A compliment, but
certainly not an unqualified one. (My wife said "Notice that most of
the nicks and scratches are up where he sits?")


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- Frank Krygowski


My bikes are dirty until just after their yearly cleaning.
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Old June 18th 17, 04:16 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 12:14:28 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-06-17 11:34, wrote:
Frank, On my Eddy Merckx I was using an old chain so I would lube it
with Rock n Roll and let it dry over-night.

The chain would stay relatively clean though it did deposit a layer
of something on the rear derailleur pulleys that was a real pain in
the butt to get off.

When you're using your wax technique do you find any build-up on the
cogs, rings and pulleys?


Which of their three lubes did you use?

http://www.cyclingweekly.com/reviews...gold-lubricant

Is it better than White Lightning? The process seems quite wasteful,
dripping on a lot and then wiping away the run-off.

I've had the pulley gunk with any lube so far, whether chainsaw oil,
motor oil or some fancy bike product. I take a knife, hold the blade
against the pulley, turn the crank backwards ... splat ... a clump falls
onto the work bench. When cleaning the MTB chain before a re-lube I
collect a total of about one shotglass full of gunk from the pulleys,
cogs and chain. Dirt, clay, sap, caked animal poop, "star thistle
mousse", and so on.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/


Rock n Roll Gold. Like I say, I spot each link and let it dry over night and the chain has yet to squeak. And that chain which I just replaced was pretty old. My friend used it at least for a year, and he was putting in 6,000 mile years. But he squirts lube on it before every ride I believe. And he cleans the chain religiously very often. You can always touch his chain and only get a little clean lubricant on your fingers.
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Old June 18th 17, 05:24 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 2017-06-18 08:16, wrote:
On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 12:14:28 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-06-17 11:34,
wrote:
Frank, On my Eddy Merckx I was using an old chain so I would lube
it with Rock n Roll and let it dry over-night.

The chain would stay relatively clean though it did deposit a
layer of something on the rear derailleur pulleys that was a real
pain in the butt to get off.

When you're using your wax technique do you find any build-up on
the cogs, rings and pulleys?


Which of their three lubes did you use?

http://www.cyclingweekly.com/reviews...gold-lubricant



Is it better than White Lightning? The process seems quite wasteful,
dripping on a lot and then wiping away the run-off.

I've had the pulley gunk with any lube so far, whether chainsaw
oil, motor oil or some fancy bike product. I take a knife, hold the
blade against the pulley, turn the crank backwards ... splat ... a
clump falls onto the work bench. When cleaning the MTB chain before
a re-lube I collect a total of about one shotglass full of gunk
from the pulleys, cogs and chain. Dirt, clay, sap, caked animal
poop, "star thistle mousse", and so on.

-- Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/


Rock n Roll Gold. Like I say, I spot each link and let it dry over
night and the chain has yet to squeak. And that chain which I just
replaced was pretty old. My friend used it at least for a year, and
he was putting in 6,000 mile years. But he squirts lube on it before
every ride I believe. And he cleans the chain religiously very often.
You can always touch his chain and only get a little clean lubricant
on your fingers.


I am probably more like your friend, babying chains a lot. I apply lube
to each link using a Q-Tip. White Lightning Epic Ride gets shaken for a
good mix, then I squirt the roughly needed quantity into an old
shotglass and dab it on. After a thorough cleaning, of course.

Maybe I should try that Gold stuff. It seems to contain wax just like
Epic Ride. Possibly performance would be the same but one would only
know after trying. Entered into my wiki file but I still have a large
bottle of White Lightning to use up.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/
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Old June 18th 17, 05:32 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 2017-06-18 08:12, wrote:
On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 1:15:35 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 6/17/2017 2:34 PM,
wrote:
Frank, On my Eddy Merckx I was using an old chain so I would lube it with Rock n Roll and let it dry over-night.

The chain would stay relatively clean though it did deposit a layer of something on the rear derailleur pulleys that was a real pain in the butt to get off.

When you're using your wax technique do you find any build-up on the cogs, rings and pulleys?


Just a very tiny bit, about as much as if a kid with a crayon drew the
tooth outline just inboard of the actual teeth. If I really want to
clean the bike, I wipe that off with a dry rag.

But I don't clean or polish my bikes very often. Fortunately, I don't
need to. They look clean enough from 10 feet away, but they'll never win
a concours d'elegance. For example, I don't own a bike that doesn't have
nicks and scratches in the paint.

We did a club ride on our 39-year-old tandem today. One friend said
"The paint looks pretty good for 39 years old." A compliment, but
certainly not an unqualified one. (My wife said "Notice that most of
the nicks and scratches are up where he sits?")


--
- Frank Krygowski


My bikes are dirty until just after their yearly cleaning.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqVoZcf3fO0

:-)

I don't think I ever cleaned my MTB or my road bike in the last three
years (that's when I bought the current MTB). Actually, I can't remember
ever cleaning the road bike since purchase in 1982 except before
shipping to the US (required by law, ag inspection). This strategy
greatly reduces the chance of theft. On the underside of the downtubes
the color of the frame can only be discerned after a long ride through
driving rain. That's the only washing the bikes get.

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Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/
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Old June 18th 17, 05:45 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 6/18/2017 12:24 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-06-18 08:16, wrote:
On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 12:14:28 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-06-17 11:34,
wrote:
Frank, On my Eddy Merckx I was using an old chain so I would lube
it with Rock n Roll and let it dry over-night.

The chain would stay relatively clean though it did deposit a
layer of something on the rear derailleur pulleys that was a real
pain in the butt to get off.

When you're using your wax technique do you find any build-up on
the cogs, rings and pulleys?


Which of their three lubes did you use?

http://www.cyclingweekly.com/reviews...gold-lubricant




Is it better than White Lightning? The process seems quite wasteful,
dripping on a lot and then wiping away the run-off.

I've had the pulley gunk with any lube so far, whether chainsaw
oil, motor oil or some fancy bike product. I take a knife, hold the
blade against the pulley, turn the crank backwards ... splat ... a
clump falls onto the work bench. When cleaning the MTB chain before
a re-lube I collect a total of about one shotglass full of gunk
from the pulleys, cogs and chain. Dirt, clay, sap, caked animal
poop, "star thistle mousse", and so on.

-- Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/


Rock n Roll Gold. Like I say, I spot each link and let it dry over
night and the chain has yet to squeak. And that chain which I just
replaced was pretty old. My friend used it at least for a year, and
he was putting in 6,000 mile years. But he squirts lube on it before
every ride I believe. And he cleans the chain religiously very often.
You can always touch his chain and only get a little clean lubricant
on your fingers.


I am probably more like your friend, babying chains a lot. I apply lube
to each link using a Q-Tip. White Lightning Epic Ride gets shaken for a
good mix, then I squirt the roughly needed quantity into an old
shotglass and dab it on. After a thorough cleaning, of course.


How long does that take you?


--
- Frank Krygowski
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Old June 18th 17, 05:54 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 2017-06-18 09:45, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 6/18/2017 12:24 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-06-18 08:16, wrote:
On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 12:14:28 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-06-17 11:34,
wrote:
Frank, On my Eddy Merckx I was using an old chain so I would lube
it with Rock n Roll and let it dry over-night.

The chain would stay relatively clean though it did deposit a
layer of something on the rear derailleur pulleys that was a real
pain in the butt to get off.

When you're using your wax technique do you find any build-up on
the cogs, rings and pulleys?


Which of their three lubes did you use?

http://www.cyclingweekly.com/reviews...gold-lubricant




Is it better than White Lightning? The process seems quite wasteful,
dripping on a lot and then wiping away the run-off.

I've had the pulley gunk with any lube so far, whether chainsaw
oil, motor oil or some fancy bike product. I take a knife, hold the
blade against the pulley, turn the crank backwards ... splat ... a
clump falls onto the work bench. When cleaning the MTB chain before
a re-lube I collect a total of about one shotglass full of gunk
from the pulleys, cogs and chain. Dirt, clay, sap, caked animal
poop, "star thistle mousse", and so on.

-- Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

Rock n Roll Gold. Like I say, I spot each link and let it dry over
night and the chain has yet to squeak. And that chain which I just
replaced was pretty old. My friend used it at least for a year, and
he was putting in 6,000 mile years. But he squirts lube on it before
every ride I believe. And he cleans the chain religiously very often.
You can always touch his chain and only get a little clean lubricant
on your fingers.


I am probably more like your friend, babying chains a lot. I apply
lube to each link using a Q-Tip. White Lightning Epic Ride gets shaken
for a good mix, then I squirt the roughly needed quantity into an old
shotglass and dab it on. After a thorough cleaning, of course.


How long does that take you?


The cleaning? Depends on where I was riding. A few minutes for the road
bike yesterday. My road bike has a good dose of dirt trail exposure. On
the MTB this can easily consume 15mins or more because there often is
"weed parfait" and other nasty stuff caked into everything. Where you
need scraping and poking tools. Sometimes solvent if vegetation with
lots of sap got sucked in.

The actual lube job took less than a minute. Then ... I discovered the
front had a slow flat and there went the next half hour because that
still has a Gatorskin on it. This time wasn't wasted though because I
started the wood fire for cooking during that time and that must be
watched for safety. Filet mignon over a hot Manzanita can't be beat.
Today it's going to be ribs, same procedure but sans the flat fix.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/
 




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