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On 6/18/2017 12:54 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-06-18 09:45, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 6/18/2017 12:24 PM, Joerg wrote: I am probably more like your friend, babying chains a lot. I apply lube to each link using a Q-Tip. White Lightning Epic Ride gets shaken for a good mix, then I squirt the roughly needed quantity into an old shotglass and dab it on. After a thorough cleaning, of course. How long does that take you? The cleaning? Depends on where I was riding. A few minutes for the road bike yesterday. My road bike has a good dose of dirt trail exposure. On the MTB this can easily consume 15mins or more because there often is "weed parfait" and other nasty stuff caked into everything. Where you need scraping and poking tools. Sometimes solvent if vegetation with lots of sap got sucked in. The actual lube job took less than a minute. Wow. If your Q-tip procedure takes less than a minute, you're dabbing with that Q-tip about twice every second, including time to re-dip that Q-tip in the chain lube. You're fast, all right! -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On 2017-06-18 18:05, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 6/18/2017 12:54 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2017-06-18 09:45, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 6/18/2017 12:24 PM, Joerg wrote: I am probably more like your friend, babying chains a lot. I apply lube to each link using a Q-Tip. White Lightning Epic Ride gets shaken for a good mix, then I squirt the roughly needed quantity into an old shotglass and dab it on. After a thorough cleaning, of course. How long does that take you? The cleaning? Depends on where I was riding. A few minutes for the road bike yesterday. My road bike has a good dose of dirt trail exposure. On the MTB this can easily consume 15mins or more because there often is "weed parfait" and other nasty stuff caked into everything. Where you need scraping and poking tools. Sometimes solvent if vegetation with lots of sap got sucked in. The actual lube job took less than a minute. Wow. If your Q-tip procedure takes less than a minute, you're dabbing with that Q-tip about twice every second, including time to re-dip that Q-tip in the chain lube. Has it not occurred to you that the cotton ball at the end of a Q-Tip can hold enough lube for several joints? Over-lubing a chain is not a good thing but a mess. You're fast, all right! Look at a Q-Tip and then try to lube something with it. Maybe it'll sink in. Maybe not. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 6:29:47 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-06-18 18:05, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 6/18/2017 12:54 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2017-06-18 09:45, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 6/18/2017 12:24 PM, Joerg wrote: I am probably more like your friend, babying chains a lot. I apply lube to each link using a Q-Tip. White Lightning Epic Ride gets shaken for a good mix, then I squirt the roughly needed quantity into an old shotglass and dab it on. After a thorough cleaning, of course. How long does that take you? The cleaning? Depends on where I was riding. A few minutes for the road bike yesterday. My road bike has a good dose of dirt trail exposure. On the MTB this can easily consume 15mins or more because there often is "weed parfait" and other nasty stuff caked into everything. Where you need scraping and poking tools. Sometimes solvent if vegetation with lots of sap got sucked in. The actual lube job took less than a minute. Wow. If your Q-tip procedure takes less than a minute, you're dabbing with that Q-tip about twice every second, including time to re-dip that Q-tip in the chain lube. Has it not occurred to you that the cotton ball at the end of a Q-Tip can hold enough lube for several joints? Over-lubing a chain is not a good thing but a mess. You're fast, all right! Look at a Q-Tip and then try to lube something with it. Maybe it'll sink in. Maybe not. I'll have to try that method since I have a lot of waste with one drop per link. |
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On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 10:12:29 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 6:29:47 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-06-18 18:05, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 6/18/2017 12:54 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2017-06-18 09:45, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 6/18/2017 12:24 PM, Joerg wrote: I am probably more like your friend, babying chains a lot. I apply lube to each link using a Q-Tip. White Lightning Epic Ride gets shaken for a good mix, then I squirt the roughly needed quantity into an old shotglass and dab it on. After a thorough cleaning, of course. How long does that take you? The cleaning? Depends on where I was riding. A few minutes for the road bike yesterday. My road bike has a good dose of dirt trail exposure. On the MTB this can easily consume 15mins or more because there often is "weed parfait" and other nasty stuff caked into everything. Where you need scraping and poking tools. Sometimes solvent if vegetation with lots of sap got sucked in. The actual lube job took less than a minute. Wow. If your Q-tip procedure takes less than a minute, you're dabbing with that Q-tip about twice every second, including time to re-dip that Q-tip in the chain lube. Has it not occurred to you that the cotton ball at the end of a Q-Tip can hold enough lube for several joints? Over-lubing a chain is not a good thing but a mess. You're fast, all right! Look at a Q-Tip and then try to lube something with it. Maybe it'll sink in. Maybe not. I'll have to try that method since I have a lot of waste with one drop per link. I have small plastic bottles with a very fine tip on them. They used to hold drops for my dog's ears but I use them now for oil. The very fine tip puts a drop of oil precisely on the roller of the chain link and the oild flows under the roller and onto the pin. It takes less than a minute to oil the entire 9-speed chain and there's no dripping of oild onto the floor or elsewhere. There's also usually no oil on the outside of the links where it's not needed and would only act as a dirt magnet. Cheers |
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On 2017-06-19 07:16, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 10:12:29 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 6:29:47 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-06-18 18:05, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 6/18/2017 12:54 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2017-06-18 09:45, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 6/18/2017 12:24 PM, Joerg wrote: I am probably more like your friend, babying chains a lot. I apply lube to each link using a Q-Tip. White Lightning Epic Ride gets shaken for a good mix, then I squirt the roughly needed quantity into an old shotglass and dab it on. After a thorough cleaning, of course. How long does that take you? The cleaning? Depends on where I was riding. A few minutes for the road bike yesterday. My road bike has a good dose of dirt trail exposure. On the MTB this can easily consume 15mins or more because there often is "weed parfait" and other nasty stuff caked into everything. Where you need scraping and poking tools. Sometimes solvent if vegetation with lots of sap got sucked in. The actual lube job took less than a minute. Wow. If your Q-tip procedure takes less than a minute, you're dabbing with that Q-tip about twice every second, including time to re-dip that Q-tip in the chain lube. Has it not occurred to you that the cotton ball at the end of a Q-Tip can hold enough lube for several joints? Over-lubing a chain is not a good thing but a mess. You're fast, all right! Look at a Q-Tip and then try to lube something with it. Maybe it'll sink in. Maybe not. I'll have to try that method since I have a lot of waste with one drop per link. It also results in nothing dropping onto the side of the tire or onto the workbench. Even though I have a Kleenex there it sometimes went through when using the prescribed spout method. Most of all, without dripping or having to wipe off copious amounts of excess lube a bottle goes much longer when using Q-Tips. Epic Ride isn't exactly cheap. Now an 8oz bottle lasts me almost a year. Q-Tips are one of the key inventions of civilized man. Very useful for lots of stuff except their original market of cleaning ears. Just like duct tape :-) I have small plastic bottles with a very fine tip on them. They used to hold drops for my dog's ears but I use them now for oil. Those should work well. We switched to the wipes for our Labradors. Less mess with the drop stuff running back out or splattering everywhere when they shake. ... The very fine tip puts a drop of oil precisely on the roller of the chain link and the oild flows under the roller and onto the pin. It takes less than a minute to oil the entire 9-speed chain and there's no dripping of oild onto the floor or elsewhere. There's also usually no oil on the outside of the links where it's not needed and would only act as a dirt magnet. I usually run a dry wipe underneath in case something does seep down. And yes, it does take less than a minute even if Frank won't believe it. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 10:23:41 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-06-19 07:16, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 10:12:29 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 6:29:47 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-06-18 18:05, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 6/18/2017 12:54 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2017-06-18 09:45, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 6/18/2017 12:24 PM, Joerg wrote: I am probably more like your friend, babying chains a lot. I apply lube to each link using a Q-Tip. White Lightning Epic Ride gets shaken for a good mix, then I squirt the roughly needed quantity into an old shotglass and dab it on. After a thorough cleaning, of course. How long does that take you? The cleaning? Depends on where I was riding. A few minutes for the road bike yesterday. My road bike has a good dose of dirt trail exposure. On the MTB this can easily consume 15mins or more because there often is "weed parfait" and other nasty stuff caked into everything. Where you need scraping and poking tools. Sometimes solvent if vegetation with lots of sap got sucked in. The actual lube job took less than a minute. Wow. If your Q-tip procedure takes less than a minute, you're dabbing with that Q-tip about twice every second, including time to re-dip that Q-tip in the chain lube. Has it not occurred to you that the cotton ball at the end of a Q-Tip can hold enough lube for several joints? Over-lubing a chain is not a good thing but a mess. You're fast, all right! Look at a Q-Tip and then try to lube something with it. Maybe it'll sink in. Maybe not. I'll have to try that method since I have a lot of waste with one drop per link. It also results in nothing dropping onto the side of the tire or onto the workbench. Even though I have a Kleenex there it sometimes went through when using the prescribed spout method. Most of all, without dripping or having to wipe off copious amounts of excess lube a bottle goes much longer when using Q-Tips. Epic Ride isn't exactly cheap. Now an 8oz bottle lasts me almost a year. Q-Tips are one of the key inventions of civilized man. Very useful for lots of stuff except their original market of cleaning ears. Just like duct tape :-) I have small plastic bottles with a very fine tip on them. They used to hold drops for my dog's ears but I use them now for oil. Those should work well. We switched to the wipes for our Labradors. Less mess with the drop stuff running back out or splattering everywhere when they shake. ... The very fine tip puts a drop of oil precisely on the roller of the chain link and the oild flows under the roller and onto the pin. It takes less than a minute to oil the entire 9-speed chain and there's no dripping of oild onto the floor or elsewhere. There's also usually no oil on the outside of the links where it's not needed and would only act as a dirt magnet. I usually run a dry wipe underneath in case something does seep down. And yes, it does take less than a minute even if Frank won't believe it. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ I didn't know Duct Tape was for cleaning ears. |
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On 2017-06-19 14:12, wrote:
On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 10:23:41 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-06-19 07:16, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 10:12:29 AM UTC-4, wrote: On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 6:29:47 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-06-18 18:05, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 6/18/2017 12:54 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2017-06-18 09:45, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 6/18/2017 12:24 PM, Joerg wrote: I am probably more like your friend, babying chains a lot. I apply lube to each link using a Q-Tip. White Lightning Epic Ride gets shaken for a good mix, then I squirt the roughly needed quantity into an old shotglass and dab it on. After a thorough cleaning, of course. How long does that take you? The cleaning? Depends on where I was riding. A few minutes for the road bike yesterday. My road bike has a good dose of dirt trail exposure. On the MTB this can easily consume 15mins or more because there often is "weed parfait" and other nasty stuff caked into everything. Where you need scraping and poking tools. Sometimes solvent if vegetation with lots of sap got sucked in. The actual lube job took less than a minute. Wow. If your Q-tip procedure takes less than a minute, you're dabbing with that Q-tip about twice every second, including time to re-dip that Q-tip in the chain lube. Has it not occurred to you that the cotton ball at the end of a Q-Tip can hold enough lube for several joints? Over-lubing a chain is not a good thing but a mess. You're fast, all right! Look at a Q-Tip and then try to lube something with it. Maybe it'll sink in. Maybe not. I'll have to try that method since I have a lot of waste with one drop per link. It also results in nothing dropping onto the side of the tire or onto the workbench. Even though I have a Kleenex there it sometimes went through when using the prescribed spout method. Most of all, without dripping or having to wipe off copious amounts of excess lube a bottle goes much longer when using Q-Tips. Epic Ride isn't exactly cheap. Now an 8oz bottle lasts me almost a year. Q-Tips are one of the key inventions of civilized man. Very useful for lots of stuff except their original market of cleaning ears. Just like duct tape :-) I have small plastic bottles with a very fine tip on them. They used to hold drops for my dog's ears but I use them now for oil. Those should work well. We switched to the wipes for our Labradors. Less mess with the drop stuff running back out or splattering everywhere when they shake. ... The very fine tip puts a drop of oil precisely on the roller of the chain link and the oild flows under the roller and onto the pin. It takes less than a minute to oil the entire 9-speed chain and there's no dripping of oild onto the floor or elsewhere. There's also usually no oil on the outside of the links where it's not needed and would only act as a dirt magnet. I usually run a dry wipe underneath in case something does seep down. And yes, it does take less than a minute even if Frank won't believe it. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ I didn't know Duct Tape was for cleaning ears. It's too painful :-) -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Monday, June 19, 2017 at 1:23:41 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote:
And yes, it does take less than a minute even if Frank won't believe it. Two dabs per second for the entire chain? Yes, I won't believe it, unless you post a video. Sorry for the skepticism. - Frank Krygowski |
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