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We Have a President That Rides A Bike Now!
still me? wrote:
... I'd tell you about your third problem but the second one is already preventing you from recognizing the first, so there's little point to continuing. butbutbut, the rest of us are curious! -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia "I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition" -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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We Have a President That Rides A Bike Now!
still me wrote:
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:33:23 -0700, "Bill Sornson" wrote: You really come across as a social class bigot. Just ask yourself how well "your way" is working in places like New Orleans. Dependency ain't cutting it; time to try empowerment based on personal responsibility coupled with opportunity. Only one problem with that: Dems will not keep getting elected if this occurs. Get a clue. I have a clue. Your first problem is that you assume anyone who opposes that a-hole of a President and his crony neo-con fascists who are selling us down a river is a Democrat. Your second problem is that you are the definition of the brainwashed masses that the neo's are pulling along like lemmings. I'd tell you about your third problem but the second one is already preventing you from recognizing the first, so there's little point to continuing. Nonsequitur much? LOL Bill "oh, and Flogger wants to know who you really are" S. |
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"still me" wrote in message ... On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 08:52:40 -0500, "Keats" wrote: "Avoiding long-term poverty is not rocket science. First, graduate from high school. Second, get married before you have children, and stay married. Third, work at any kind of job, even one that starts out paying the minimum wage. And, finally, avoid engaging in criminal behavior. If you graduate from high school today with a B or C average, in most places in our country there's a low-cost or financially assisted post-high-school education program available to increase your skills. Statistically this is true. Obviously avoiding poverty are choices best made early in life. Obviously, you can't let yourself be sucked into victimhood by those whose self interest it is to have you in poverty so they can be your poverty pimp, or have you in their voter constituency, or just feel good about themselves such as some social workers and other non- helpful do-gooders. The choices to not be poor come easy and natural for most people brought up in a non-poverty family, but if you are born into poverty you will most likely need outside influence to get you off the poverty track in as much as there are powerful forces working from within to keep you in place. Nice theory, but it doesn't wash. I'm no fan of endless, wasteful social programs, but the very people promoting the financial assistance programs you cite are the Democrats - who you accuse of having some farfetched conspiracy to keep people in poverty. Logic just defeated you. Can you point me to any congressional democrat promoting the Bush administration's Department of Education? Most of them seem to be like you - never uttering a positive word. As Walter Williams said avoiding long-term poverty is not rocket science. Graduate from high school. Get married before you have children and stay married. Get a job and increase your skills. Don't be a criminal. Nothing too complicated there, eh? Find me a democrat saying these things and I'll show you a extraordinarily good democrat. But unfortunately this language isn't part of their talking points or of your own thoughts and speech. Keats |
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"still me" wrote in message ... On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 23:51:41 -0500, "Keats" wrote: Can you point me to any congressional democrat promoting the Bush administration's Department of Education? Most of them seem to be like you - never uttering a positive word. Don't assume people are Democrats just because they can objectively recognize that Bush is a neo fascist, neo con moron puppet without a clue who has caused great harm to the USA that will take decades to repair. I haven't seen any talk from either party about education. Bush has his "no child left behind" but I haven't seem anyone except him hyping that. In addition, the only hype I've seen out of that is the ill-designed concept of standardized testing. That just leads to standardized education and teaching to the test. The fact that some urban school systems are failing should not be used to penalize and handicap suburban school systems that work - but that's the effect of standardized testing. Why do I have the strong feeling that you belong to a teachers union? As Walter Williams said avoiding long-term poverty is not rocket science. Graduate from high school. Get married before you have children and stay married. Get a job and increase your skills. Don't be a criminal. Nothing too complicated there, eh? Find me a democrat saying these things and I'll show you a extraordinarily good democrat. But unfortunately this language isn't part of their talking points or of your own thoughts and speech. You left out the part about "take a job, any job, at minimum wage" (paraphrased) from your earlier post. That is a prescription for life long poverty. I didn't know that a kid taking a minimum wage job also got a prescription for life long poverty, but that could certainly explain why democrats and other liberals are so determined to perpetuate the minimum wage system. |
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"still me" wrote in message ... On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:13:56 -0500, "Keats" wrote: I haven't seen any talk from either party about education. Bush has his "no child left behind" but I haven't seem anyone except him hyping that. In addition, the only hype I've seen out of that is the ill-designed concept of standardized testing. That just leads to standardized education and teaching to the test. The fact that some urban school systems are failing should not be used to penalize and handicap suburban school systems that work - but that's the effect of standardized testing. Why do I have the strong feeling that you belong to a teachers union? The only logical answer to that question is "because you don't have a clue". The only clues I have are the ones you supply. And as far as logic goes I'm not so sure you've got a clue. FWIW, I'm none too fond of unions in general or the teachers union in particular. More importantly, it's obvious that you haven't seen the hands-on effect of what happens when the state starts dictating universal tests. It leads directly to state dictated curriculum, a horrible idea. It ruins good schools that were doing their job, and it doesn't make any difference in the schools that weren't doing their job. As Walter Williams said avoiding long-term poverty is not rocket science. Graduate from high school. Get married before you have children and stay married. Get a job and increase your skills. Don't be a criminal. Nothing too complicated there, eh? Find me a democrat saying these things and I'll show you a extraordinarily good democrat. But unfortunately this language isn't part of their talking points or of your own thoughts and speech. You left out the part about "take a job, any job, at minimum wage" (paraphrased) from your earlier post. That is a prescription for life long poverty. I didn't know that a kid taking a minimum wage job also got a prescription for life long poverty, but that could certainly explain why democrats and other liberals are so determined to perpetuate the minimum wage system. Your quote doesn't apply that phrase to "kids". Ok, so the quote was all inclusive and did include kids, young people, middle aged people, older people, seniors, black people, white people, yellow people, red people, brown people, pink people, fit people, unfit people, average people, below average people, above average people.............I could go on and on with this but maybe, just maybe you've managed to get the idea. So how does that change anything? Keats (as Dr. Phil might say - I'm stupefied by this guest) |
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