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"Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message oups.com... B. Lafferty wrote: "Scott" wrote in message ups.com... "Maybe, just maybe, she was one of those phenoms. I doubt very seriously she was doping in the early years of her career. Whether she was in the last few years, I don't know. I will NOT jump to conclusions that she must have been just because she won." That must be it. That would explain many dominating performances in the peloton since, say the early 1990s. Wink, wink. Dumbass - No male racer ever dominated their races the way she dominated hers (when she was fully pumped up). Not even Eddy Merckx. thanks, K. Gringioni. That's because the depth of the women's fields doesn't compare to the men. Think Museeuu flying home in P-R putting time on his pursuers who were working to bring him back. |
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B. Lafferty wrote:
"Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message oups.com... Dumbass - No male racer ever dominated their races the way she dominated hers (when she was fully pumped up). Not even Eddy Merckx. thanks, K. Gringioni. That's because the depth of the women's fields doesn't compare to the men. Think Museeuu flying home in P-R putting time on his pursuers who were working to bring him back. Before we get too worked up about using comparisions to make our points about Jeanson and 'the program', I just want to point out that both Merckx and Musseuw were on the top programs of their day. Bob Schwartz |
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On 1/20/06 3:33 AM, in article
. net, "B. Lafferty" wrote: "Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message oups.com... B. Lafferty wrote: "Scott" wrote in message ups.com... "Maybe, just maybe, she was one of those phenoms. I doubt very seriously she was doping in the early years of her career. Whether she was in the last few years, I don't know. I will NOT jump to conclusions that she must have been just because she won." That must be it. That would explain many dominating performances in the peloton since, say the early 1990s. Wink, wink. Dumbass - No male racer ever dominated their races the way she dominated hers (when she was fully pumped up). Not even Eddy Merckx. thanks, K. Gringioni. That's because the depth of the women's fields doesn't compare to the men. Think Museeuu flying home in P-R putting time on his pursuers who were working to bring him back. How many Wasps did he take for that?? |
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Ewoud Dronkert wrote:
For EPO use: http://www.940news.com/locale.php?news=2020 "The US tests weren't the first time Jeanson had tested positive and that's why she was banned for life." -- that would be a no-show at the drugsmobile after the 2003 Flèche Wallonne, and hematocrit too high before Worlds 2004. Several interesting notes in this piece like retiring before being sanctioned... http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/9400.0.html "Jeanson took out a U.S. racing license following a battle with the Quebec cycling federation after the 2003 world championships in Hamilton, when she was not allowed to start the road race due to an elevated hematocrit level. She passed subsequent doping tests." Looks like USA Cycling is paying for their lust |
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"Me" wrote in message ... On 1/20/06 3:33 AM, in article . net, "B. Lafferty" wrote: "Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message oups.com... B. Lafferty wrote: "Scott" wrote in message ups.com... "Maybe, just maybe, she was one of those phenoms. I doubt very seriously she was doping in the early years of her career. Whether she was in the last few years, I don't know. I will NOT jump to conclusions that she must have been just because she won." That must be it. That would explain many dominating performances in the peloton since, say the early 1990s. Wink, wink. Dumbass - No male racer ever dominated their races the way she dominated hers (when she was fully pumped up). Not even Eddy Merckx. thanks, K. Gringioni. That's because the depth of the women's fields doesn't compare to the men. Think Museeuu flying home in P-R putting time on his pursuers who were working to bring him back. How many Wasps did he take for that?? :-) |
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Scott wrote:
Ceasar Valeroso wrote: "The US tests weren't the first time Jeanson had tested positive and that's why she was banned for life." -- that would be a no-show at the drugsmobile after the 2003 Flèche Wallonne, and hematocrit too high before Worlds 2004. Abut taught her to cheat, it's sad she might have been a champion without the drugs, but we'll never know if what we saw was real, or not. I think everyone knew, some of those races she looked like the bionic woman compared to the rest, it was unreal, and was. Everyone seems to think that because she was so dominant she must've been cheating, yet we forget that every so often a true phenomenon comes along (usually in the jr ranks, and continuing for awhile in the elites/pros). Think of how Lemond crushed the jr's and elite amateurs while still quite young. Maybe, just maybe, she was one of those phenoms. I doubt very seriously she was doping in the early years of her career. Whether she was in the last few years, I don't know. I will NOT jump to conclusions that she must have been just because she won. I think she was one of those phenoms anyways and would have still been so without dope... i think she's young, naive, not too smart and got involved with the wrong people. |
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Marlene Blanshay wrote: Scott wrote: Ceasar Valeroso wrote: "The US tests weren't the first time Jeanson had tested positive and that's why she was banned for life." -- that would be a no-show at the drugsmobile after the 2003 Flèche Wallonne, and hematocrit too high before Worlds 2004. Abut taught her to cheat, it's sad she might have been a champion without the drugs, but we'll never know if what we saw was real, or not.. I think everyone knew, some of those races she looked like the bionic woman compared to the rest, it was unreal, and was. Everyone seems to think that because she was so dominant she must've been cheating, yet we forget that every so often a true phenomenon comes along (usually in the jr ranks, and continuing for awhile in the elites/pros). Think of how Lemond crushed the jr's and elite amateurs while still quite young. Maybe, just maybe, she was one of those phenoms. I doubt very seriously she was doping in the early years of her career. Whether she was in the last few years, I don't know. I will NOT jump to conclusions that she must have been just because she won. I think she was one of those phenoms anyways and would have still been so without dope... i think she's young, naive, not too smart and got involved with the wrong people. There've been some real questions from everybody about her relationship with Abut for a long time. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he fed her EPO and lied to her about it. He's always tried to keep her isolated and under his control from everything I've heard and seen, and from a personal point of view I think he's an arrogant asshole at best. I think this was a great young kid he exploited and ridden for all she was worth, now he'll probably dump her cold after the appeals are used up. The few times I've said Hi to her or been around when she was talking with others she seemed like a really nice person but he would never let her do too much of that at any race I saw. Bill C |
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Bill C wrote: There've been some real questions from everybody about her relationship with Abut for a long time. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he fed her EPO and lied to her about it. If that's true, I wonder if we'll ever know. Or if she'll ever know, for sure. He's always tried to keep her isolated and under his control from everything I've heard and seen, and from a personal point of view I think he's an arrogant asshole at best. I think this was a great young kid he exploited and ridden for all she was worth, now he'll probably dump her cold after the appeals are used up. Dump her? She's quit, even if she wins her appeal. And for whom? I don't think he'll be finding any more cyclists who want him as a coach. His athletic background is canoeing, anyway. I never quite figured out how he ended up as her cycling coach. The few times I've said Hi to her or been around when she was talking with others she seemed like a really nice person but he would never let her do too much of that at any race I saw. Wow. I've had the same experience. Wow. Bill C |
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"Marlene Blanshay" wrote in message news I think she was one of those phenoms anyways and would have still been so without dope... i think she's young, naive, not too smart and got involved with the wrong people. why the poor, defenseless creature! |
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On 20 Jan 2006 13:44:46 -0800, "MMan" wrote:
His athletic background is canoeing, anyway. I never quite figured out how he ended up as her cycling coach. Got to her first and hung on/ isolated her. I'm still hoping to read a "tell-all" from Nicole Freedman about her time on Rona. That'll be wild stuff. JT **************************** Remove "remove" to reply Visit http://www.jt10000.com **************************** |
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