OT Is anyone really surprised?

Michael Press wrote:

In article

egroups.com,
wrote:

Depends on how tight the link is. Tom and Greg pay for my work but the
link is pretty insulated. That the Burnham study was commissioned and
underway before the Open Society Institute gave some money to MIT for
public education efforts suggests that link wasn't terribly direct,
either.

It does not matter when they gave the money. They
paid for the study. Heck, maybe they waited to see if
it shaped up to be what they wanted, and would not
have paid for otherwise. You seem to have sufficient
expertise to assess studies for accuracy. I do not. I
pay attention to what `conclusions' I am supposed to
draw from numbers that somebody paid for and pays to
have widely disseminated.


Dude:

Nobody pays an institution like MIT the money *after* they've done the
work. You get the money first or you don't start. Universities, national
labs, SBIR mills etc. *might* let you work for a month or two without
having the money for the project in hand (provided you have written
confirmation from the funding agency the money is being processed), but
they won't let you work with the expectation of payment in the future.
That arrangement wouldn't even be contemplated anywhere.

--
Bill Asher

On Jan 14, 9:20*am, wrote:

But the fact that you are so ill-informed but so willing to say "a pox
on all their houses" is a success for the people who are trying to
obfuscate the issue. Congratulations to them. You've been had.

It dovetails nicely with his "all human are scum" argument, though.
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Getting much riding in? What did Santa -- er I mean I -- bring you
for christmas? For my part, I thought you were a bit too naughty and
wanted to give you coal, just cuz of the CO2 it makes and knowing
global warming will render Earth a nice warm cozy planet for all of us
to live on.

On Jan 14, 4:12*pm, William Asher wrote:

.......... but
they won't let you work with the expectation of payment in the future. *
That arrangement wouldn't even be contemplated anywhere. *

Anywhere? (With A capitAl A.)

SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:

On Jan 14, 4:12*pm, William Asher wrote:

.......... but
they won't let you work with the expectation of payment in the future. *

That arrangement wouldn't even be contemplated anywhere. *

Anywhere? (With A capitAl A.)


If you find yourself working for a basic research organization that will
let you work up front without money from a sponsor in-house or "on the
way," find another job as fast as you can because they will soon be out of
business.

--
Bill Asher

On Jan 14, 4:29*pm, William Asher wrote:
SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:

On Jan 14, 4:12*pm, William Asher wrote:

.......... but
they won't let you work with the expectation of payment in the future. *

That arrangement wouldn't even be contemplated anywhere. *

Anywhere? *(With A capitAl A.)

If you find yourself working for a basic research organization that will
let you work up front without money from a sponsor in-house or "on the
way," find another job as fast as you can because they will soon be out of
business. *

You must be another one of my pet primates.

SLAVE of THE STATE wrote:



You must be another one of my pet primates.


I consider myself a mindless tool of American imperialist agression more
than a pet primate. But that might be the programming the UN put in my
microchip. It's been so long since I've had a free thought I don't really
remember who controls me anymore.

--
Bill Asher

On Jan 14, 10:52*am, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"Bill C" wrote in message

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And when we pull everyone, for all practical purposes, out like we did
in SE Asia who's gonna put a damper on the sectarian war we allowed to
get started, and enabled?

Enabled? Why is it that you don't seem to notice that the implication here
is that all of the Iraqis were MUCH better off under Hussein.




Dumbass -


Not only were they better off - we were better off too.

Containment was a much, much cheaper policy to the tune of a trillion
dollars (and more and more as it stretches on into the future). It
worked for the Soviet Union, it was working for Iraq.


thanks,

K. Gringioni.

On Jan 14, 10:54 am, Kurgan Gringioni wrote:

The draft should be reinstituted and there should be no college
deferments.

If the sons and daughters of Congresspeople/Presidents are getting
sent off to war too, perhaps they'll be more circumspect in engaging
in various conflicts around the globe.

Imperialist tasks would be given over entirely to private for-profit
armies like Blackwater, insuring these ventures will be even more
costly and counterproductive than they are currently.

Robert

On Jan 14, 12:23 pm, Bill C wrote:
The
administration seriously cooked/cherry-picked the intel and sold it to
even the left/center Democrats.

The hell they did. Anyone with two braincells to rub together could
see the 'intelligence' was fake. Democrats crawfished their way onto
the troopship because they thought it would be a cakewalk, lacked any
moral fortitude and didn't want to be seen as weak, not because they
believed Saddam was a threat.

Tom Kunich wrote:
"Mark & Steven Bornfeld" wrote in message
news:SBKij.2437$YW6.692@trndny07...

Tom, I'm going to restrict my comments not to the substance, but to
the tone of your postings to Robert. This is afterall, RBR.
Besides being offensive to me, I see no way that your discursive style
is likely to convince anyone that you have something to say.
IMO if you have a shred of judgment you'll think a bit before you hit
send.

Steve, I'm sorry that you are insulted by my tone. Personally I'm
insulted by the far left attitude of Chung. For that matter I'm insulted
by a lot of very highly educated people who are willing to screw the
common man because they believe their educations and positions will
allow them to avoid the results of following their suggestions.


Well, so long as you can justify your tone it's obviously OK.