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Old December 1st 08, 02:53 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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MagillaGorilla wrote:
Management do NOT speak for the cyclists.


Dumbass,
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Old December 1st 08, 03:10 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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" wrote:

This is a technical knock-out. *Please return to your corner. *The fight is over...And still the undefeated heavyweight
champion of the world, Maaaaaagillllllaaaaaaa *GORILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAA......


you know those fights where the judges make the decision, and the
right guy wins, but then the other guy insists on parading around with
his arms raised? Those guys should be bitch-slapped by their trainers
once they get back in the locker room. It's like Paris-Roubaix in '93
when Ballerini insisted on taking the victory lap even though he lost
to a masters fattie.


Sometimes the judges get it wrong.

Thanks,

Magilla

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Old December 1st 08, 03:22 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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MagillaGorilla wrote:
LaPorte shouldn't be using the entry fee to pay for the prize list.


Yeah, that's why it *never* happens.

Bob Schwartz
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Old December 1st 08, 03:55 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Bob Schwartz wrote:

MagillaGorilla wrote:
LaPorte shouldn't be using the entry fee to pay for the prize list.


Yeah, that's why it *never* happens.

Bob Schwartz


LaPorte admits to doing precisely that, dumbass. Didn't you read his
posts?

Thanks,

Magilla

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Old December 1st 08, 04:03 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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MagillaGorilla wrote:
Bob Schwartz wrote:
MagillaGorilla wrote:
LaPorte shouldn't be using the entry fee to pay for the prize list.

Yeah, that's why it *never* happens.


LaPorte admits to doing precisely that, dumbass.


Shirley, Bob's point was that it does happen, or even a lot.
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Old December 1st 08, 04:15 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Ted van de Weteringe wrote:

MagillaGorilla wrote:
Bob Schwartz wrote:
MagillaGorilla wrote:
LaPorte shouldn't be using the entry fee to pay for the prize list.
Yeah, that's why it *never* happens.


LaPorte admits to doing precisely that, dumbass.


Shirley, Bob's point was that it does happen, or even a lot.


Yeah, I guess.

Magilla

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Old December 1st 08, 05:06 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Nov 29, 8:24*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:
http://www.examiner.com/x-1155-Cycli...1d25-Womens-Pr...

Read this article and then read the comment at the bottom by "J Fun"
that points out Nature Valley GP offers the women only half the prize
money as the men, and the women also only get 1/4 of the men's TV
coverage.

Nice bitch slap to Dave LaPorte.


dumbass,

a racer (or not even perhaps) whines about something at a bike race
and you call that a bitch slap ?

the organizer is the party that generates the revenue, pays the
expenses and pays out the prize purse, and also takes on any financial
risk. so, ultimately any choices about the entry fee or the purse are
the organizers - with the concession that he has to meet the
conditions for the sanction he wants the race held under.

offering the women a tiny purse isn't going to make people think
you're a nice guy and it's bad PR, but a lot of business decisions
aren't going to make a person look like a nice guy, so the organizer
shouldn't feel compelled to justify his decision.
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Old December 1st 08, 05:08 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Bob Schwartz[_3_]
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MagillaGorilla wrote:
Ted van de Weteringe wrote:

MagillaGorilla wrote:
Bob Schwartz wrote:
MagillaGorilla wrote:
LaPorte shouldn't be using the entry fee to pay for the prize list.
Yeah, that's why it *never* happens.
LaPorte admits to doing precisely that, dumbass.

Shirley, Bob's point was that it does happen, or even a lot.


Yeah, I guess.

Magilla


Good comeback. You're the undefeated champion.

Bob Schwartz
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Old December 1st 08, 05:23 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
MagillaGorilla[_2_]
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Amit Ghosh wrote:

On Nov 29, 8:24*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:
http://www.examiner.com/x-1155-Cycli...1d25-Womens-Pr...

Read this article and then read the comment at the bottom by "J Fun"
that points out Nature Valley GP offers the women only half the prize
money as the men, and the women also only get 1/4 of the men's TV
coverage.

Nice bitch slap to Dave LaPorte.


dumbass,

a racer (or not even perhaps) whines about something at a bike race
and you call that a bitch slap ?

the organizer is the party that generates the revenue, pays the
expenses and pays out the prize purse, and also takes on any financial
risk. so, ultimately any choices about the entry fee or the purse are
the organizers - with the concession that he has to meet the
conditions for the sanction he wants the race held under.

offering the women a tiny purse isn't going to make people think
you're a nice guy and it's bad PR, but a lot of business decisions
aren't going to make a person look like a nice guy, so the organizer
shouldn't feel compelled to justify his decision.


The problem is "LaPorta Potty" wrote an email to the author of the original
article bragging about how the Nature Valley Girl race was a "model" to
emulate for all women's races. But then a few posters pointed out that he
only offers women half the prize money! That, my friend, is a bitch-slap.

Basically, LaPorta Potty was caught with his pants down by his ankles and
someone opened the plastic door on him. And everyone is now left with that
image.

LaPorta Potty was also trying to argue - after the unequal prize money
disparity was brought to light - that it was okay to do that because the
"women" asked for it in exchange for a lower entry fee. But what the posters
also pointed out was that it wasn't the WOMEN RACERS that asked for the lower
entry fee and prize money, but rather the TEAM MANAGERS. Those ae two
totally different entities with conflicting interests.

In fact, no woman racer asked for their prize money to be cut in half. But
LaPorta Potty tried to make it sound like they did and that he was doing them
a favor by cutting their prize money in half. In fact, he was harming women
cyclists by doing that and going against the will of 100% of the women
racers.

He also made ridiculous statements that team managers represent the interests
of women cyclists. That's like saying corporations represent the Teamsters
union. It's a ****ing joke.

Is this guy really a professor?

Magilla

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Old December 1st 08, 06:17 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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LaPorta Potty was also trying to argue - after the unequal prize money
disparity was brought to light - that it was okay to do that because the
"women" asked for it in exchange for a lower entry fee. *But what the posters
also pointed out was that it wasn't the WOMEN RACERS that asked for the lower
entry fee and prize money, but rather the TEAM MANAGERS. *Those are two
totally different entities with conflicting interests.


Women's racing needs bigger and deeper fields which will bring better
racing. The unfortunate fact is that prize money doesn't seem to
guarantee bigger women's fields (unlike the men) because the prize
money is won by the few decent racers. So it's actually not a bad
idea to lower barriers to entry to get bigger fields, which eventually
will make for better racing. There are countless promoters who have
offered good prize lists for women only to have a relative handful of
racers show up.
 




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