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  #21  
Old January 6th 09, 04:16 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Tom Kunich
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"Bret" wrote in message
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On Jan 5, 3:31 pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
I assume that as a "real" cyclist you have winter shoes that aren't
mostly
vented.


Yes, I do have some Sidi's that fit that description. Is this what you
had in mind?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bwade913/3172853000/


Yeah, that's the stuff. Then you wear a pair of Wooly Bully socks inside
those and if it's really cold you put a plastic bag outside of the socks.
The problem with stuffing thick socks in there is that it cuts off your
circulation and you end up with frozen feet sometimes painful.


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Old January 6th 09, 05:18 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Bret wrote:

It's 30F and windy. You discover that you've only packed one shoe
cover. Do you:

a. ride with no shoe cover to avoid looking like a dork.

b. ride with one shoe cover and consider it an opportunity for a
science experiment.

c. alternate the shoe cover from foot to foot periodically so as not
to show any favoritism.

d. decide that you weren't really into the concept of riding today
anyway (AKA California option).


I build an oscillating quantum tunneling mass transporter
from roadside debris, strap it to my back, and the single
shoe cover is in two places at once. What do you do?

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Old January 6th 09, 07:13 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jan 5, 10:11*pm, Anton Berlin wrote:
Back in the day, we used to ride out in the area where they eventually
built DIA. I recall this one day where we went out for a 70 mile group
ride in 65 degrees and sun *Halfway through the ride a cold front and
ice storm came. *By the time we got home, several had frostbitten feet
(including me) and the ice on the spokes was finger thick. Shifters,
brakes, everything was frozen. *The streets however stayed warm enough
not to freeze over. *The thawing of frozen flesh was the most painful
thing I ever went through. (at that time) * I had a serious respect
for going out on any long ride on the front range from that day on.
Winter or not. * On July 4th 1987 I encountered a foot of hail riding
from Denver to Colorado Springs on hiway 83 (just north of the black
forest)


yep; sounds like a hard lesson- esp. in the mountains when things can
change in a snap- it is one thing to head out in the cold and at least
be mentally prepared for it- entirely another to have things go from
pleasant to dangerous and still have to ride back home. you learn to
become your own expert weather forecaster
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Old January 6th 09, 08:37 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jan 5, 8:11*pm, Anton Berlin wrote:
Back in the day, we used to ride out in the area where they eventually
built DIA. I recall this one day where we went out for a 70 mile group
ride in 65 degrees and sun *Halfway through the ride a cold front and
ice storm came. *By the time we got home, several had frostbitten feet
(including me) and the ice on the spokes was finger thick. Shifters,
brakes, everything was frozen. *The streets however stayed warm enough
not to freeze over. *The thawing of frozen flesh was the most painful
thing I ever went through. (at that time) * I had a serious respect
for going out on any long ride on the front range from that day on.
Winter or not. * On July 4th 1987 I encountered a foot of hail riding
from Denver to Colorado Springs on hiway 83 (just north of the black
forest)


My worst was getting caught in a hail storm up in Ward. I was
shivering so badly descending Lefthand canyon that the bike was
shimmying. Then I punctured, but my hands were too numb to get the
tire (sewup) off the rim. So I descended on a flat back tire until I
reached the Jamestown turnoff where I'd warmed up enough to change the
tire. As I was riding back towards Boulder on Hwy 36, I punctured
again and so once again I'm riding a flat back tire. On North Broadway
some passing motorist happened to notice that I was riding a flat and
offered me a ride so it ended pleasantly enough.

Bret
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Old January 6th 09, 10:32 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Michael Press wrote:
I build an oscillating quantum tunneling mass transporter from roadside
debris, strap it to my back, and the single shoe cover is in two places at
once.


But your feet will be simultaneously frostbitten and not frostbitten
until you stop and observe them at which point only one will be
frostbitten.

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Old January 6th 09, 03:00 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Bret wrote:
I rode with one shoe cover and in the end it was the hands that were
coldest even with Lobster gloves. There was a noticeable difference in
how cold my feet were but not huge.


I'd have gone with footwear symmetry and sacrificed a couple
of handwarmers.

Bob Schwartz
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Old January 6th 09, 08:16 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jan 5, 8:00*pm, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote:
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009 14:14:29 -0800 (PST), Bret
wrote:

d. decide that you weren't really into the concept of riding today
anyway (AKA California option).


Borrow a trainer and try to work out indoors.


Yeah, or have a spouse who's rational. Was talking with a guy today
who's wife went out riding in the below 0 wind chill a little while
ago, combined with her obsession to train she now has been diagnosed
with pneumonia. He, literally, had to take her front wheel to work
with him today without her knowledge until he was at work, he called
her, to keep her from riding again today since she's been riding, even
after the diagnosis.
And I thought a bunch of us were hard headed.
Bill C
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Old January 6th 09, 10:34 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jan 5, 4:10*pm, wrote:
On Jan 5, 6:01*pm, Scott wrote:





On Jan 5, 3:31*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:


"Bret" wrote in message


....


It's 30F and windy. You discover that you've only packed one shoe
cover. Do you:


a. ride with no shoe cover to avoid looking like a dork.


b. ride with one shoe cover and consider it an opportunity for a
science experiment.


c. alternate the shoe cover from foot to foot periodically so as not
to show any favoritism.


d. decide that you weren't really into the concept of riding today
anyway (AKA California option).


Unless it's below freezing or raining what would you need shoe covers for. I
assume that as a "real" cyclist you have winter shoes that aren't mostly
vented. See Pearl Izumi.


Bret, if you'll allow me...


C'mon, Tom... what part of 30F didn't you understand? *For an
engineer, I'd expect that you know that is two degrees BELOW
freezing. *Plus, you know damn good and well Bret lives in CO where
the weather is notorious for turning really, really crappy at the drop
of a hat.


Your turn, Bret.


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screw the cover, just wear an extra sock, a couple of hours ain't
going to kill or maim you- nice thing is when your foot gets good and
frozen you won't feel it ( until you get back and it warms up a bit-
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If he forgot to pack one of his two shoe covers, why in hell would you
think he happens to have an extra sock?
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Old January 6th 09, 10:36 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jan 5, 5:49*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:
"Bret" wrote in message

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Apparently Tom doesn't generate much wind chill.


When it is really cold I use hard climbs to get in my riding. This allows me
to ride a lot slower and to generate more body heat. It has been below
freezing on the morning rides around here as well. But I haven't had to
resort to toe warmers or such. Though others are complaining about cold feet
and using those chemical warmers etc.

I don't think it got above 42 degrees for most of my Sunday ride and the
first half was down near freezing. There were puddles along the road that
were still frozen over when I rode by.

My point is that you can get in the exercise without having to ride very
fast.


How do you deal with combined effects of NO effort on the downhills
and the increased wind chill from the higher speeds while descending?
I understand how you can stay warm on the climbs, but wouldn't you
freeze your arse off on the descents?
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Old January 6th 09, 10:39 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jan 6, 4:36*pm, Scott wrote:

How do you deal with combined effects of NO effort on the downhills
and the increased wind chill from the higher speeds while descending?
I understand how you can stay warm on the climbs, but wouldn't you
freeze your arse off on the descents?


dumbass,

kunich has nine bikes. how dare you question him.

 




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