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Joe Keenan Wrote: I'm curious why folks stay with this newsgroup given that any thread is immediately subject to contamination. (I'm being kind) Yup, I'm a "usta be" and just stopped in to see if things had changed in a few months. Slow Joe Recumbo Why not ask the question in its purist form? Why add to it" that given any thread is immediatly subject to contamination".If in fact you could be a little more honest with yourself you would realise that maybe you are part of the problem.Better go back to the brol swimming pool where all the waters are knee deep and no sharks to bite you. -- nget |
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nget wrote:
.Better go back to the brol swimming pool where all the waters are knee deep and no sharks to bite you. Some people (let's call them "Group #1") enjoy being argumentative, abrasive, obnoxious, and otherwise confrontive. They think any discussion that happens without confrontation is boring and not worth while. Rather than finding a place where like-minded people can argue with each other, they prefer to take over existing groups and force them into their mold. Some people ("Group #2") prefer to engage in conversation and civil exchange without abuse, name-calling, insults, and other confrontive behavior. They prefer to discuss the topic they're interested in rather than engaging in arguments and character assassination. I believe Group #2 vastly outnumbers Group #1. But Group #1 delights in destroying places where other people had useful conversations. A year or two ago, ARBR contained almost exclusively people in Group #2. We had many fun and productive conversations, and everyone seemed to enjoy the group. In the last year or two, a few people in Group #1 have roosted in ARBR. They have made it their crusade to impose their style onto many/most posts. Most people in Group #2 find confrontive posts annoying and distracting. Many discussions veer off from the intended topic to an argument about one thing or another. Many of these Group #2 people have decided ARBR is no longer a fun place to talk about recumbents, so they've moved to places like BROL that exclude insulting and abusive posters. Since the Group #1 types choose not to have their confrontive arguments in a place that welcomes confrontive arguments, but prefer to take over and destroy nonconfrontive environments, the Group #2 types are forced to go somewhere that excludes Group #1. It's like people who live in a nice neighborhood who have to move because a bunch of thugs and hoods takes over the place, breaking windows and destroying property. Group #1 is the cyberspace equivalent of those thugs and hoods. nget, if you want to call places like BROL "wading pools," you go right ahead. I imagine gangbangers think of nice neighborhoods as "wading pools" and themselves as "sharks" too. When actually they're just cheap crooks. It's a shame you "sharks" think it's so much fun to **** and **** in the ARBR pool. You're just fouling something nice and ruining it for the vast majority of people who prefer not to wallow in their own filth. |
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"Kurt Fischer" wrote in message ... Joe Keenan wrote: I'm curious why folks stay with this newsgroup given that any thread is immediately subject to contamination. 1. Reading and writing via a proper newsreader is for me far more comfortable than via any browser 2. I prefer to be my own moderator who decides what I'm able to write and to read. It's not only freedom of speech, it's also freedom of choice. 3. It's simply one alternative to all the other boards and groups I'm reading and I'm not intending to give it up completely. 4. If you don't expose yourself to the downs of a group, you can't enjoy the ups entirely. ;-) Kurt, who likes diversitiy not only in bicycles Gee Kurt - you are allowing your brain moderate the group for you. You must have a really cool brain. It must be hard programming a brain for self moderation - so few others seem to be able to do it. Congratulations. |
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why don't we admit to it that "ED asshole DOLAN and a couple other assholes has
made this board not as attractive as it used to be for some people. and IMO if we ALL want this board to better we should all, including myself, should stick to recumbent and bicycle topics only. lets forget about all of the OT'S and other nonrelated ****. OK that means you Mr. Dolan and you also Mr. Sherman. lets stop it NOW, OK! |
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Gary Fritz Wrote: nget wrote: .Better go back to the brol swimming pool where all the waters are knee deep and no sharks to bite you. Some people (let's call them "Group #1") enjoy being argumentative, abrasive, obnoxious, and otherwise confrontive. They think any discussion that happens without confrontation is boring and not worth while. Rather than finding a place where like-minded people can argue with each other, they prefer to take over existing groups and force them into their mold. Some people ("Group #2") prefer to engage in conversation and civil exchange without abuse, name-calling, insults, and other confrontive behavior. They prefer to discuss the topic they're interested in rather than engaging in arguments and character assassination. I believe Group #2 vastly outnumbers Group #1. But Group #1 delights in destroying places where other people had useful conversations. A year or two ago, ARBR contained almost exclusively people in Group #2. We had many fun and productive conversations, and everyone seemed to enjoy the group. In the last year or two, a few people in Group #1 have roosted in ARBR. They have made it their crusade to impose their style onto many/most posts. Most people in Group #2 find confrontive posts annoying and distracting. Many discussions veer off from the intended topic to an argument about one thing or another. Many of these Group #2 people have decided ARBR is no longer a fun place to talk about recumbents, so they've moved to places like BROL that exclude insulting and abusive posters. Since the Group #1 types choose not to have their confrontive arguments in a place that welcomes confrontive arguments, but prefer to take over and destroy nonconfrontive environments, the Group #2 types are forced to go somewhere that excludes Group #1. It's like people who live in a nice neighborhood who have to move because a bunch of thugs and hoods takes over the place, breaking windows and destroying property. Group #1 is the cyberspace equivalent of those thugs and hoods. nget, if you want to call places like BROL "wading pools," you go right ahead. I imagine gangbangers think of nice neighborhoods as "wading pools" and themselves as "sharks" too. When actually they're just cheap crooks. It's a shame you "sharks" think it's so much fun to **** and **** in the ARBR pool. You're just fouling something nice and ruining it for the vast majority of people who prefer not to wallow in their own filth. Group #2 also **** and **** as do group#1 but when they do they call their **** jelly beans and they **** lemonade.Your idea of nice might just have a very unpleasant odor to someone else.I prefer not to be confined to the shallow end of the pool,but I am free to go there if I wish.If group#2 has a place to go then what is the problem?Are they all control freaks like you? -- nget |
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"Joe Keenan" wrote in message ... I'm curious why folks stay with this newsgroup given that any thread is immediately subject to contamination. (I'm being kind) Yup, I'm a "usta be" and just stopped in to see if things had changed in a few months. Slow Joe Recumbo So why do *you* continue to stay Mr. Joe? Just idle curiosity? Time on your hands? Nothing else better to do? Can't get arbr out of you system? What business is it of yours what others choose to do? This is Usenet. Usenet is what it is and if you can't deal with it then my advice is to limit yourself to the moderated forums. There are many other choices so if arbr isn't to your liking why don't you quietly move on and stop posting here. .. |
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On 11 Nov 2004 19:44:28 GMT, Gary Fritz wrote
in message : Some people (let's call them "Group #1") enjoy being argumentative, abrasive, obnoxious, and otherwise confrontive. No we don't! Guy -- May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk 88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University |
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I'm sorry, this is ABUSE. If you want ARGUMENTS, it's down the hall.
"Gary Fritz" wrote in message ... nget wrote: .Better go back to the brol swimming pool where all the waters are knee deep and no sharks to bite you. Some people (let's call them "Group #1") enjoy being argumentative, abrasive, obnoxious, and otherwise confrontive. They think any discussion that happens without confrontation is boring and not worth while. Rather than finding a place where like-minded people can argue with each other, they prefer to take over existing groups and force them into their mold. Some people ("Group #2") prefer to engage in conversation and civil exchange without abuse, name-calling, insults, and other confrontive behavior. They prefer to discuss the topic they're interested in rather than engaging in arguments and character assassination. I believe Group #2 vastly outnumbers Group #1. But Group #1 delights in destroying places where other people had useful conversations. A year or two ago, ARBR contained almost exclusively people in Group #2. We had many fun and productive conversations, and everyone seemed to enjoy the group. In the last year or two, a few people in Group #1 have roosted in ARBR. They have made it their crusade to impose their style onto many/most posts. Most people in Group #2 find confrontive posts annoying and distracting. Many discussions veer off from the intended topic to an argument about one thing or another. Many of these Group #2 people have decided ARBR is no longer a fun place to talk about recumbents, so they've moved to places like BROL that exclude insulting and abusive posters. Since the Group #1 types choose not to have their confrontive arguments in a place that welcomes confrontive arguments, but prefer to take over and destroy nonconfrontive environments, the Group #2 types are forced to go somewhere that excludes Group #1. It's like people who live in a nice neighborhood who have to move because a bunch of thugs and hoods takes over the place, breaking windows and destroying property. Group #1 is the cyberspace equivalent of those thugs and hoods. nget, if you want to call places like BROL "wading pools," you go right ahead. I imagine gangbangers think of nice neighborhoods as "wading pools" and themselves as "sharks" too. When actually they're just cheap crooks. It's a shame you "sharks" think it's so much fun to **** and **** in the ARBR pool. You're just fouling something nice and ruining it for the vast majority of people who prefer not to wallow in their own filth. |
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skip wrote:
Gee Kurt - you are allowing your brain moderate the group for you. You must have a really cool brain. No wonder, I'm riding in 0°C here this days, that's 32°F. ;-) It must be hard programming a brain for self moderation - so few others seem to be able to do it. Congratulations. No, I think everyone has ( or at least had ) the ability to do it. But it takes training. Just as muscles have to be trained for strength and proper function, that's also true for our brain. And the best training for our brain is thinking and weighing something. Of course, this will turn into work eventually, and that's why many folks are happy and thankful if someone else is willing to do this work, in this case the moderators. But usenet after all is about information, and I want my information first hand and not spoon-fed by others. I'm also over at BROL and at the moment Bryan seems to block only non-cycling related stuff. That's fine with me as it helps to find on topic information. But as soon as I'm getting the impression the moderators over there are trying to filter out information about recumbents also, I will stay away from there. Actually I'm hoping this will never be the case, but we have to be alert. Kurt |
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On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 05:24:40 -0800, Joe Keenan wrote:
I'm curious why folks stay with this newsgroup given that any thread is immediately subject to contamination. One-click killfiling :-)) Mike |
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