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nancy1 wrote:
L'Equipe is still humphing about, hinting at some drug use by LA Well, they published other inre Lance/Tour: http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug...=afp&type=lgns PARIS (AFP) - Lance Armstrong overwhelmingly topped a poll amongst French people asked to nominate the greatest cyclist ever in the history of the Tour de France. American Armstrong, who earned a record seventh consecutive title on the Champs-Elysees in Paris on Sunday, polled 30 percent of the vote published in Tuesday's edition of sports daily L'Equipe. Belgium's five-time Tour winner Eddy Merckx polled 18 percent of the vote and Bernard Hinault of France, also a five-time winner, earned 12 percent. ("nancy1" continued "lol'ing"): ...will they never get over WWII? They need to move on, already! Well, they "got over" WWII enough not to roll over for Uncle Sugar concerning more recent military actions. Some less recent historical perspective: (From http://www.xenu.net/archive/go/felix/ch_i5.htm) Cover organizations are no new device. Americans can reflect on the historical fact that American independence is in large measure due to French ingenuity and success with one cover organization. In 1777 Louis XVI was persuaded by his ministers that it should be French policy to support the fight of the American colonists for independence from Great Britain. The French Government, however, was not yet prepared to put such a policy into effect openly. While La Fayette and scores of other young French officers, volunteered for service with the Continental Army, this was by no means the type of significant aid that was needed, or that the French Government contemplated. The answer was found in the person of Pierre Auguste Caron de Beaumarchais, poet and playwright, author of Figaro, and a man well known for his espousal of the ideas of the Enlightenment. Beaumarchais, a wealthy man, was granted letters patent to found a private trading firm in Paris, under the name of Hortalez and Company. This firm promptly entered exclusively and actively into the promotion of North American trade. It was well equipped for the purpose by the presence among the principals of Silas Deane - whose qualifications, besides being an American, were that he was an agent of the Continental Congress. The doors of the French Treasury and of the French arsenals were quietly opened to Hortalez and Company, and the firm forwarded on to America vast and decisive quantities of arms, munitions, textiles - and money. Among many other things, these supplies included nine-tenths of the arms and munitions used by the Americans at the Battle of Saratoga. (It is sad to be obliged to add that Beaumarchais, who was himself out of pocket for considerable expenses, was eventually forced to protracted litigation to recover these sums. The case was only solved in 1835, when the American Congress finally reimbursed his heirs.) I understand Condi plays the piano, but I'm not aware of any noted literary or musical works having been penned by Cheney or Bush, or others down the Bushco command line. Ah well, it was a different age... --TP |
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nancy1 wrote: L'Equipe is still humphing about, hinting at some drug use by LA Well, they published other inre Lance/Tour: http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug...=afp&type=lgns PARIS (AFP) - Lance Armstrong overwhelmingly topped a poll amongst French people asked to nominate the greatest cyclist ever in the history of the Tour de France. American Armstrong, who earned a record seventh consecutive title on the Champs-Elysees in Paris on Sunday, polled 30 percent of the vote published in Tuesday's edition of sports daily L'Equipe. Belgium's five-time Tour winner Eddy Merckx polled 18 percent of the vote and Bernard Hinault of France, also a five-time winner, earned 12 percent. ("nancy1" continued "lol'ing"): ...will they never get over WWII? They need to move on, already! Well, they "got over" WWII enough not to roll over for Uncle Sugar concerning more recent military actions. Some less recent historical perspective: (From http://www.xenu.net/archive/go/felix/ch_i5.htm) Cover organizations are no new device. Americans can reflect on the historical fact that American independence is in large measure due to French ingenuity and success with one cover organization. In 1777 Louis XVI was persuaded by his ministers that it should be French policy to support the fight of the American colonists for independence from Great Britain. The French Government, however, was not yet prepared to put such a policy into effect openly. While La Fayette and scores of other young French officers, volunteered for service with the Continental Army, this was by no means the type of significant aid that was needed, or that the French Government contemplated. The answer was found in the person of Pierre Auguste Caron de Beaumarchais, poet and playwright, author of Figaro, and a man well known for his espousal of the ideas of the Enlightenment. Beaumarchais, a wealthy man, was granted letters patent to found a private trading firm in Paris, under the name of Hortalez and Company. This firm promptly entered exclusively and actively into the promotion of North American trade. It was well equipped for the purpose by the presence among the principals of Silas Deane - whose qualifications, besides being an American, were that he was an agent of the Continental Congress. The doors of the French Treasury and of the French arsenals were quietly opened to Hortalez and Company, and the firm forwarded on to America vast and decisive quantities of arms, munitions, textiles - and money. Among many other things, these supplies included nine-tenths of the arms and munitions used by the Americans at the Battle of Saratoga. (It is sad to be obliged to add that Beaumarchais, who was himself out of pocket for considerable expenses, was eventually forced to protracted litigation to recover these sums. The case was only solved in 1835, when the American Congress finally reimbursed his heirs.) I understand Condi plays the piano, but I'm not aware of any noted literary or musical works having been penned by Cheney or Bush, or others down the Bushco command line. Ah well, it was a different age... --TP They're more the character of old men in front of a country store who lean back in their chairs, prop their feet up on a cracker barrel and tell one whopper after another, while most around them see no harm at all in the practice. |
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"nancy1" wrote in message oups.com... L'Equipe is still humphing about, hinting at some drug use by LA...will they never get over WWII? They need to move on, already! LOL. N. You know, sometimes even I have trouble getting over World War II. Isn't that odd? I wasn't even born then. |
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Which never happened before the Bush invasion. And yes the 20 thousand
dead are innocent. Insurgent is the word the media uses instead of the resistance. It helps to dull the masses senses. But they can not be called insurgents just as the French resistance against the Nazis can not be called insurgents either. |
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Andre a =E9crit : Which never happened before the Bush invasion. And yes the 20 thousand dead are innocent. Insurgent is the word the media uses instead of the resistance. It helps to dull the masses senses. But they can not be called insurgents just as the French resistance against the Nazis can not be called insurgents either. You said the magic word, you lose! -ilan |
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"nancy1" wrote in message
oups.com... Of course, that is very recent. But by "will they never get over WWII?," I was asking if they will ever forgive themselves (and stop resenting us) for needing our military power during WWII. Nobody resents that. .... I believe that any tourist or visitor (for example, someone there on an academic sabbatical) can cite more than one instance of the arrogant French attitude of "I cannot understand your French," even if it is perfect.... Having often been in France, I really can't confirm that. Not at all. That's all I was trying to say. OTOH, I may be totally wrong. Yes, perhaps you are. |
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in 477076 20050728 162425 "nancy1" wrote:
I believe that any tourist or visitor (for example, someone there on an academic sabbatical) can cite more than one instance of the arrogant French attitude of "I cannot understand your French," even if it is perfect. Even Bob Roll's pronunciation of TDF is a reaction related to his experience with that arrogance which is born of resentment. That's all I was trying to say. OTOH, I may be totally wrong. I've had people in the USA tell me they didn't understand my English - and I'm English! But I didn't put it down to arrogance ... |
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"nancy1" a écrit dans le message de news:
... wrote: ...will they never get over WWII? They need to move on, already! Well, they "got over" WWII enough not to roll over for Uncle Sugar concerning more recent military actions. Of course, that is very recent. But by "will they never get over WWII?," I was asking if they will ever forgive themselves (and stop resenting us) for needing our military power during WWII. It is one thing not to have the ability to take a stand against the Germans, and quite another, during peace-time, to take a stand against us (especially in that their attitude about us and Iraq is rather popular). The two really cannot be compared. I believe that any tourist or visitor (for example, someone there on an academic sabbatical) can cite more than one instance of the arrogant French attitude of "I cannot understand your French," even if it is perfect. Even Bob Roll's pronunciation of TDF is a reaction related to his experience with that arrogance which is born of resentment. That's all I was trying to say. OTOH, I may be totally wrong. N. The most common remark of friends and relatives when visiting me in France is, "I don't know why people say the French are rude, I found people here to be very nice and helpful." |
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