lol @ Ullrich

"Andy Coggan" wrote in message ink.net...
"Andrew" wrote in message
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"{Tech439} CKuhn" wrote in message
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"If I would have won last year and not finished second, I probably would
have stopped racing,"

The heart of a champion.

I dunno - I think it's easier to admire those that choose to go out on top
(e.g., Connie Carpenter) than those who practice what Armstrong has said
he'd do, i.e., that if he hadn't won number five (or was it number four?) he
would have just quit racing.

Andy Coggan

Well, there is a certain inevitability in all sports, that some day
the next big thing will come along and wash over you like a wave.
Like how Armstrong winning his first tour must have appeared to the
other contenders. Do you cling to the hope that you can eke out a few
more glorious victories or call it a day?

Bob Schwartz wrote in message ...

In the past Jan has shown the ability to
make great progress in a short period of time. Especially when
unencumbered by those pesky dope testers.

I read some time ago that athletes aren't tested during training
periods in the US? Is that true?

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dAve

Dave wrote:
Bob Schwartz wrote in message ...

In the past Jan has shown the ability to
make great progress in a short period of time. Especially when
unencumbered by those pesky dope testers.

I read some time ago that athletes aren't tested during training
periods in the US? Is that true?

Well, Carl will tell you about being available for testing at any time.
But you are correct, US athletes for the most part are not tested
during training periods.

If Barry Bonds was fat and sucked during spring training, I'm sure
he could take a month off during the season for 'intensive training'
and no one would think anything of it.

Bob Schwartz


Jan will be ready in July.

Bob Schwartz wrote in message ...

US athletes for the most part are not tested
during training periods.

a bit of an unfair advantage then, wouldn't you say?

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dAve

"Bob Schwartz" wrote in message
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After a prolonged silence which fuelled rumours of further troubles in
his
Tour de France build-up, Jan Ullrich declared today that he was
satisfied
and reassured by a four-week stint of "intensive training". Ullrich has
reportedly spent much of the past month in his now customary training
haven
in the Metallifere hills of Tuscany.

Don't sell him short. In the past Jan has shown the ability to
make great progress in a short period of time. Especially when
unencumbered by those pesky dope testers.

He'll be roarin' in July. Count on it.

I think you are right. The two strongest riders this year will be he and
Armstong, IMHO. It's certainly reassuring to hear Ullrich speak confidently
about himself as he has recently.

Dave

Originally posted by Dav
Bob Schwartz wrote in messag
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US athletes for the most part are not tested during training periods

a bit of an unfair advantage then, wouldn't you say? :

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dAv

Its what US sports are all about, and it's why we love the


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Dave wrote:
Bob Schwartz wrote in message ...

US athletes for the most part are not tested
during training periods.

a bit of an unfair advantage then, wouldn't you say?

Not at all. The field is level. Ullrich is not tested during training
periods.

Bob Schwartz


Unless, of course, he trains in nightclubs.

"jev" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 May 2004 15:27:07 GMT, "Andy Coggan"
wrote:

"Andrew" wrote in message
om...
"{Tech439} CKuhn" wrote in message
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"If I would have won last year and not finished second, I probably
would
have stopped racing,"

The heart of a champion.

I dunno - I think it's easier to admire those that choose to go out on
top
(e.g., Connie Carpenter) than those who practice what Armstrong has said
he'd do, i.e., that if he hadn't won number five (or was it number four?)
he
would have just quit racing.

Andy Coggan


So when would you have suggested to Lance that he quit?

It's not when, but why.

Andy Coggan

"Sonarrat" .. wrote in message
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"jev" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 May 2004 15:27:07 GMT, "Andy Coggan"
wrote:

"Andrew" wrote in message
om...
"{Tech439} CKuhn" wrote in message
...

"If I would have won last year and not finished second, I probably
would
have stopped racing,"

The heart of a champion.

I dunno - I think it's easier to admire those that choose to go out on
top
(e.g., Connie Carpenter) than those who practice what Armstrong has
said
he'd do, i.e., that if he hadn't won number five (or was it number
four?) he
would have just quit racing.

Andy Coggan


So when would you have suggested to Lance that he quit? AFter win
number 1 or 2 or 3 or ...... The problem with the going out on top
argument is that you often don't really know what you've got left.
The sad cases, for many of us, I think are those who go on long after
their best days are long past( think boxers e.g.). Even then the
choice obviously goes to the athlete regardless of what we may wish
they would do.

Hmm, what Lance has said in the past week conflicts with this. Lance said
if he
hadn't won #5, he would have "had a cold beer and come back next year."

-Sonarrat.

So why read anything more into Ullrich's equally-offhand comment?

Andy Coggan

In article .net,
"Andy Coggan" wrote:

Hmm, what Lance has said in the past week conflicts with this. Lance said
if he hadn't won #5, he would have "had a cold beer and come back next year."

So why read anything more into Ullrich's equally-offhand comment?

I didn't. I'm not even sure I believe it, hindsight can be 20/20 but
the emotions don't make the frame. He would have stuck around to try
again, I'm sure.

-Sonarrat.