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Old December 20th 08, 04:23 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech
Johnny Borborigmi
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Default December Cold in Minnesota

On Dec 18, 2:05*am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:

Well, as you can tell, I am starting to go crazy from the cold. Any of you
who are living in more moderate climes should count your blessings. Right
about now, I would give my soul for a little warmth. My advice to anyone
reading these forlorn words of mine is that if you are still young make it
your life's work to find a decent climate to live in. You do not want to end
up like me, cursing the weather every day of your life.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota



Well We're getting hammered right now with a big storm here in NY. 7+
inches so far. Probably 9-10 before it's over. It's 20 degrees F.
currently as I type this. No bike riding for me!


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Old December 20th 08, 08:08 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech
Tim McNamara
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Default December Cold in Minnesota

In article
,
Johnny Borborigmi wrote:

On Dec 18, 2:05*am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:

Well, as you can tell, I am starting to go crazy from the cold. Any
of you who are living in more moderate climes should count your
blessings. Right about now, I would give my soul for a little
warmth. My advice to anyone reading these forlorn words of mine is
that if you are still young make it your life's work to find a
decent climate to live in. You do not want to end up like me,
cursing the weather every day of your life.


Well We're getting hammered right now with a big storm here in NY. 7+
inches so far. Probably 9-10 before it's over. It's 20 degrees F.
currently as I type this. No bike riding for me!


Minnesota is in line for getting it tomorrow- 6-10" here and up to 12"
towards the Iowa border. On the upside, we've been in a drought for a
long time and are still 7-8" short on rainfall over much of the state,
so this will be helpful for the 2009 growing season.

My bikes are put away in the winter. Even with studded tires, it's no
fun riding when you're surrounded by ground missiles that are barely
under the control of their operators. The standards of winter driving
around here have been declining for years- a combination of an aging
population, a significant influx of people seeing snow for the first
times in their lives, and repeated budget cutting for road repair and
maintenance because low taxes are more important than a functioning
infrastructure...
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Old December 20th 08, 11:21 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech
Jorg Lueke
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Default December Cold in Minnesota

On Dec 20, 1:08*am, Tim McNamara wrote:
In article
,
*Johnny Borborigmi wrote:

On Dec 18, 2:05*am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:


Well, as you can tell, I am starting to go crazy from the cold. Any
of you who are living in more moderate climes should count your
blessings. Right about now, I would give my soul for a little
warmth. My advice to anyone reading these forlorn words of mine is
that if you are still young make it your life's work to find a
decent climate to live in. You do not want to end up like me,
cursing the weather every day of your life.


Well We're getting hammered right now with a big storm here in NY. 7+
inches so far. Probably 9-10 before it's over. It's 20 degrees F.
currently as I type this. No bike riding for me!


Minnesota is in line for getting it tomorrow- 6-10" here and up to 12"
towards the Iowa border. *On the upside, we've been in a drought for a
long time and are still 7-8" short on rainfall over much of the state,
so this will be helpful for the 2009 growing season.

My bikes are put away in the winter. *Even with studded tires, it's no
fun riding when you're surrounded by ground missiles that are barely
under the control of their operators. *The standards of winter driving
around here have been declining for years- a combination of an aging
population, a significant influxleas of people seeing snow for the first
times in their lives, and repeated budget cutting for road repair and
maintenance because low taxes are more important than a functioning
infrastructure...


At least 6" so far, next comes the wind and the sub zero temps :-)
I think I will skip the Timberwolves game, but it's good sledding
weather.
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Old December 21st 08, 12:38 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech
Tim McNamara
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Default December Cold in Minnesota

In article
,
Jorg Lueke wrote:

On Dec 20, 1:08*am, Tim McNamara wrote:
In article
,
*Johnny Borborigmi wrote:

On Dec 18, 2:05*am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:


Well, as you can tell, I am starting to go crazy from the cold.
Any of you who are living in more moderate climes should count
your blessings. Right about now, I would give my soul for a
little warmth. My advice to anyone reading these forlorn words
of mine is that if you are still young make it your life's work
to find a decent climate to live in. You do not want to end up
like me, cursing the weather every day of your life.


Well We're getting hammered right now with a big storm here in
NY. 7+ inches so far. Probably 9-10 before it's over. It's 20
degrees F. currently as I type this. No bike riding for me!


Minnesota is in line for getting it tomorrow- 6-10" here and up to
12" towards the Iowa border. *On the upside, we've been in a
drought for a long time and are still 7-8" short on rainfall over
much of the state, so this will be helpful for the 2009 growing
season.

My bikes are put away in the winter. *Even with studded tires, it's
no fun riding when you're surrounded by ground missiles that are
barely under the control of their operators. *The standards of
winter driving around here have been declining for years- a
combination of an aging population, a significant influxleas of
people seeing snow for the first times in their lives, and repeated
budget cutting for road repair and maintenance because low taxes
are more important than a functioning infrastructure...


At least 6" so far, next comes the wind and the sub zero temps :-) I
think I will skip the Timberwolves game, but it's good sledding
weather.


I went to a jazz workshop at 12:30 and it was a minor slog over snow
covered roads and highways (I-94 and I-35W), but not too bad. I did see
that there were four or five cars that had spun off the road, collided,
etc. on eastbound I-94 between the Mississippi River bridge and
Cretin-Vandalia in St. Paul. At 4:15 when I left the workshop to go
home, the wind had picked up and the temperatures felt much colder- it's
dropped 13 degrees F since 1:00PM to 8F now, and will be dropping to 2F
tonight and -14F tomorrow night. Sigh. I'm not a real Minnesotan and I
don't enjoy this stuff.
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Old December 21st 08, 01:17 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech
Andrew Price
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Default December Cold in Minnesota

On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:38:15 -0600, Tim McNamara
wrote:

[---]

At 4:15 when I left the workshop to go
home, the wind had picked up and the temperatures felt much colder- it's
dropped 13 degrees F since 1:00PM to 8F now, and will be dropping to 2F
tonight and -14F tomorrow night. Sigh. I'm not a real Minnesotan and I
don't enjoy this stuff.


That I can well sympathise with - living in Western Europe, to me,
those temperatures look really mean. How do you cope with it indoors
- double/triple glazing on windows and lots of insulation? I imagine
that heating costs must represent a considerable part of the household
budget, too.
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Old December 21st 08, 07:56 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech
Tim McNamara
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Default December Cold in Minnesota

In article ,
Andrew Price wrote:

On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:38:15 -0600, Tim McNamara
wrote:

[---]

At 4:15 when I left the workshop to go
home, the wind had picked up and the temperatures felt much colder-
it's dropped 13 degrees F since 1:00PM to 8F now, and will be
dropping to 2F tonight and -14F tomorrow night. Sigh. I'm not a
real Minnesotan and I don't enjoy this stuff.


That I can well sympathise with - living in Western Europe, to me,
those temperatures look really mean. How do you cope with it indoors
- double/triple glazing on windows and lots of insulation? I imagine
that heating costs must represent a considerable part of the
household budget, too.


I live in a 100 year old house which doesn't have double glazing but has
the usual double-hung inner sashes and storm windows. If you keep the
weather seals in good shape, the cold air intrusion is minimal and the
heat loss moderate. The house is well insulated and thus summer I had
all the old badly damaged siding replaced with Hardieboard, so I will be
interested to see if the heating bills are lower. The house is
certainly much quieter with the new siding.

In the peak (trough?) of winter, the heat bill has been about $200-300 a
month depending on energy costs; the local energy monopoly has a program
to spread those costs out year 'round- part of the year we are paying in
advance of winter and part of the year we are paying off the balance.
It ends up being about $125 a month year 'round for natural gas and
electricity combined. We pay a little extra to support development of
wind power in Minnesota.
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Old December 25th 08, 02:39 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech
Alexandre Kampouris
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Default December Cold in Minnesota

Hi Andrew,

Andrew Price wrote:
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 17:38:15 -0600, Tim McNamara
wrote:

[---]

At 4:15 when I left the workshop to go
home, the wind had picked up and the temperatures felt much colder- it's
dropped 13 degrees F since 1:00PM to 8F now, and will be dropping to 2F
tonight and -14F tomorrow night. Sigh. I'm not a real Minnesotan and I
don't enjoy this stuff.


That I can well sympathise with - living in Western Europe, to me,
those temperatures look really mean. How do you cope with it indoors
- double/triple glazing on windows and lots of insulation?


Quite well, actually, and IMO *much* better than in countries like F or
GB, where winters are milder but where single-pane windows are
prevalent. (Some days ago I was in Paris, and froze in my hotel room
even though the temperature was above 0C.)

It can actually get too stuffy indoors, especially when there are older
folks around who prefer setting the thermostat at 75 F (I'm quite comfy
at 65, even 60). (German-style individual thermostats on radiators are
practically unheard of). What bothers me most is the groaning of the
furnace.

I personally miss "real" winters.

The downside to "real" winters is that cycling is a 6 month/year
activity. Of course, there are some real die-hards, like here (the
temperature was probably something like 20F):

http://radio-bip.qc.ca/deneigement/v...janvier%202006
http://radio-bip.qc.ca/deneigement/a.html

I am not one of them. Even if I had snow tires, the corrosion would ruin
the bike in a season. (Was Sheldon a 4-season cyclist?).

Here in Berlin I have a problem finding good handgloves which will keep
my fingers warm in the wind.

I imagine
that heating costs must represent a considerable part of the household
budget, too.


Indeed. It's a pity oil prices came crashing down, we must really get
off the hook. Heat pumps, passive houses, solar panels, urban heating,
the works.

Alexandre
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Old December 21st 08, 02:45 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech
A Muzi
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Default December Cold in Minnesota

Tim McNamara wrote:
In article
,
Jorg Lueke wrote:

On Dec 20, 1:08 am, Tim McNamara wrote:
In article
,
Johnny Borborigmi wrote:

On Dec 18, 2:05 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
Well, as you can tell, I am starting to go crazy from the cold.
Any of you who are living in more moderate climes should count
your blessings. Right about now, I would give my soul for a
little warmth. My advice to anyone reading these forlorn words
of mine is that if you are still young make it your life's work
to find a decent climate to live in. You do not want to end up
like me, cursing the weather every day of your life.
Well We're getting hammered right now with a big storm here in
NY. 7+ inches so far. Probably 9-10 before it's over. It's 20
degrees F. currently as I type this. No bike riding for me!
Minnesota is in line for getting it tomorrow- 6-10" here and up to
12" towards the Iowa border. On the upside, we've been in a
drought for a long time and are still 7-8" short on rainfall over
much of the state, so this will be helpful for the 2009 growing
season.

My bikes are put away in the winter. Even with studded tires, it's
no fun riding when you're surrounded by ground missiles that are
barely under the control of their operators. The standards of
winter driving around here have been declining for years- a
combination of an aging population, a significant influxleas of
people seeing snow for the first times in their lives, and repeated
budget cutting for road repair and maintenance because low taxes
are more important than a functioning infrastructure...

At least 6" so far, next comes the wind and the sub zero temps :-) I
think I will skip the Timberwolves game, but it's good sledding
weather.


I went to a jazz workshop at 12:30 and it was a minor slog over snow
covered roads and highways (I-94 and I-35W), but not too bad. I did see
that there were four or five cars that had spun off the road, collided,
etc. on eastbound I-94 between the Mississippi River bridge and
Cretin-Vandalia in St. Paul. At 4:15 when I left the workshop to go
home, the wind had picked up and the temperatures felt much colder- it's
dropped 13 degrees F since 1:00PM to 8F now, and will be dropping to 2F
tonight and -14F tomorrow night. Sigh. I'm not a real Minnesotan and I
don't enjoy this stuff.


We get your 'used' weather a few hours later.
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
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Old December 21st 08, 05:58 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Sherman[_2_]
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Default December Cold in Minnesota

Andrew Muzi wrote:
Tim McNamara wrote:
In article
,
Jorg Lueke wrote:

On Dec 20, 1:08 am, Tim McNamara wrote:
In article
,
Johnny Borborigmi wrote:

On Dec 18, 2:05 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
Well, as you can tell, I am starting to go crazy from the cold.
Any of you who are living in more moderate climes should count
your blessings. Right about now, I would give my soul for a little
warmth. My advice to anyone reading these forlorn words of mine is
that if you are still young make it your life's work to find a
decent climate to live in. You do not want to end up like me,
cursing the weather every day of your life.
Well We're getting hammered right now with a big storm here in NY.
7+ inches so far. Probably 9-10 before it's over. It's 20 degrees
F. currently as I type this. No bike riding for me!
Minnesota is in line for getting it tomorrow- 6-10" here and up to
12" towards the Iowa border. On the upside, we've been in a drought
for a long time and are still 7-8" short on rainfall over much of
the state, so this will be helpful for the 2009 growing season.

My bikes are put away in the winter. Even with studded tires, it's
no fun riding when you're surrounded by ground missiles that are
barely under the control of their operators. The standards of
winter driving around here have been declining for years- a
combination of an aging population, a significant influxleas of
people seeing snow for the first times in their lives, and repeated
budget cutting for road repair and maintenance because low taxes are
more important than a functioning infrastructure...
At least 6" so far, next comes the wind and the sub zero temps :-) I
think I will skip the Timberwolves game, but it's good sledding weather.


I went to a jazz workshop at 12:30 and it was a minor slog over snow
covered roads and highways (I-94 and I-35W), but not too bad. I did
see that there were four or five cars that had spun off the road,
collided, etc. on eastbound I-94 between the Mississippi River bridge
and Cretin-Vandalia in St. Paul. At 4:15 when I left the workshop to
go home, the wind had picked up and the temperatures felt much colder-
it's dropped 13 degrees F since 1:00PM to 8F now, and will be dropping
to 2F tonight and -14F tomorrow night. Sigh. I'm not a real
Minnesotan and I don't enjoy this stuff.


We get your 'used' weather a few hours later.


But no "lake effect" snow being "well inland" [1].

[1] More than about a 20 minute bike ride from Lake Michigan.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll
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Old December 21st 08, 07:48 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.tech
Tim McNamara
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Default December Cold in Minnesota

In article ,
A Muzi wrote:

Tim McNamara wrote:
In article
,
Jorg Lueke wrote:

On Dec 20, 1:08 am, Tim McNamara wrote:
In article

,
Johnny Borborigmi wrote:

On Dec 18, 2:05 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
Well, as you can tell, I am starting to go crazy from the cold.
Any of you who are living in more moderate climes should count
your blessings. Right about now, I would give my soul for a
little warmth. My advice to anyone reading these forlorn words
of mine is that if you are still young make it your life's work
to find a decent climate to live in. You do not want to end up
like me, cursing the weather every day of your life.
Well We're getting hammered right now with a big storm here in
NY. 7+ inches so far. Probably 9-10 before it's over. It's 20
degrees F. currently as I type this. No bike riding for me!
Minnesota is in line for getting it tomorrow- 6-10" here and up
to 12" towards the Iowa border. On the upside, we've been in a
drought for a long time and are still 7-8" short on rainfall over
much of the state, so this will be helpful for the 2009 growing
season.

My bikes are put away in the winter. Even with studded tires,
it's no fun riding when you're surrounded by ground missiles that
are barely under the control of their operators. The standards
of winter driving around here have been declining for years- a
combination of an aging population, a significant influxleas of
people seeing snow for the first times in their lives, and
repeated budget cutting for road repair and maintenance because
low taxes are more important than a functioning infrastructure...
At least 6" so far, next comes the wind and the sub zero temps :-)
I think I will skip the Timberwolves game, but it's good sledding
weather.


I went to a jazz workshop at 12:30 and it was a minor slog over
snow covered roads and highways (I-94 and I-35W), but not too bad.
I did see that there were four or five cars that had spun off the
road, collided, etc. on eastbound I-94 between the Mississippi
River bridge and Cretin-Vandalia in St. Paul. At 4:15 when I left
the workshop to go home, the wind had picked up and the
temperatures felt much colder- it's dropped 13 degrees F since
1:00PM to 8F now, and will be dropping to 2F tonight and -14F
tomorrow night. Sigh. I'm not a real Minnesotan and I don't enjoy
this stuff.


We get your 'used' weather a few hours later.


LOL! Although this past week or so you had some special delivery
weather we didn't get.
 




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