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Help Identify old Bike Italian Road Frame
I bought an old chromo frame off of ebay a few monhs ago. Its decals
call it a "Frizzante", but I have found nothing on the web that indicates it is an actual brand. I would like for some of group to help ID the frame if they can. The serial number is Z85146 and is stamped into the bottom bracket. The BB is italian threaded and the dropouts are all Campy. There is no pnatographing to give a hint as to the manufacture. Please see the following like for pics. Please ignore the components, they are some I had on hand when I built the frame.Thanks in advance. http://www.landworkspa.com/steve/bike.htm |
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Help Identify old Bike Italian Road Frame
wrote in message ups.com... I bought an old chromo frame off of ebay a few monhs ago. Its decals call it a "Frizzante", but I have found nothing on the web that indicates it is an actual brand. I would like for some of group to help ID the frame if they can. The serial number is Z85146 and is stamped into the bottom bracket. The BB is italian threaded and the dropouts are all Campy. There is no pnatographing to give a hint as to the manufacture. Please see the following like for pics. Please ignore the components, they are some I had on hand when I built the frame.Thanks in advance. http://www.landworkspa.com/steve/bike.htm From the lug work and seat stay caps it looks like it was pretty well constructed. Frizzante means "lightly sparkling" as in a slightly bubbly wine. It may be a nickname someone put on the frame. Chas. |
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Help Identify old Bike Italian Road Frame
* * Chas wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... I bought an old chromo frame off of ebay a few monhs ago. Its decals call it a "Frizzante", but I have found nothing on the web that indicates it is an actual brand. I would like for some of group to help ID the frame if they can. The serial number is Z85146 and is stamped into the bottom bracket. The BB is italian threaded and the dropouts are all Campy. There is no pnatographing to give a hint as to the manufacture. Please see the following like for pics. Please ignore the components, they are some I had on hand when I built the frame.Thanks in advance. http://www.landworkspa.com/steve/bike.htm From the lug work and seat stay caps it looks like it was pretty well constructed. indeed! obviously need some love though judging by the way some stoner threaded the derailleur cable wrong... Frizzante means "lightly sparkling" as in a slightly bubbly wine. It may be a nickname someone put on the frame. Chas. |
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Help Identify old Bike Italian Road Frame
My guess, a late 1970's or early 80's decent quality Italian bike.
Looks like a repaint and re-decal job to me. Try here for some possible matches: http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Italy/Italy.html Also maybe join the classicrendezvous mail-list there are people who are good at this type of guess work. http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/list...ssicrendezvous Marcus |
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Help Identify old Bike Italian Road Frame
"Marcus Coles" wrote in message ... My guess, a late 1970's or early 80's decent quality Italian bike. Looks like a repaint and re-decal job to me. Try here for some possible matches: http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Italy/Italy.html Also maybe join the classicrendezvous mail-list there are people who are good at this type of guess work. http://www.bikelist.org/mailman/list...ssicrendezvous Marcus Sometimes, the lugs and seatstay caps are the only way to tell the maker. If it's really well made it may have been built by a frame maker here in the US. Italian paint would never last that long! ;-) Chas. |
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Help Identify old Bike Italian Road Frame
Four things say that this is a high-quality frameset :
(a) The reinforcing tangs on the rear brake bridge, found on high quality frames. (b) The barrel for brake mounting on the rear bridge, found on high quality frames. (c) The cinelli fork crown. (d) Chainstay brazing treatment. However, the lack of bottom-bracket cutouts mean this is _not_ an absolutely top-flite frame. The very very best frames from the 1970's and 1980's had a cutout on the bottom of the bottom bracket to lighten up the frameset. I'll be the frame and fork together weigh 6.5 - 7.0 pounds. The very best frames of this era would weight about 6.0 pounds. - Don Gillies San diego, CA |
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Help Identify old Bike Italian Road Frame
Donald Gillies wrote: Four things say that this is a high-quality frameset : (a) The reinforcing tangs on the rear brake bridge, found on high quality frames. (b) The barrel for brake mounting on the rear bridge, found on high quality frames. (c) The cinelli fork crown. (d) Chainstay brazing treatment. However, the lack of bottom-bracket cutouts mean this is _not_ an absolutely top-flite frame. The very very best frames from the 1970's and 1980's had a cutout on the bottom of the bottom bracket to lighten up the frameset. I wonder how much weight those cutouts saved (?) I'll be the frame and fork together weigh 6.5 - 7.0 pounds. The very best frames of this era would weight about 6.0 pounds. In what size? - Don Gillies San diego, CA |
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Help Identify old Bike Italian Road Frame
"Ozark Bicycle" wrote in message ps.com... Donald Gillies wrote: Four things say that this is a high-quality frameset : (a) The reinforcing tangs on the rear brake bridge, found on high quality frames. (b) The barrel for brake mounting on the rear bridge, found on high quality frames. (c) The cinelli fork crown. (d) Chainstay brazing treatment. However, the lack of bottom-bracket cutouts mean this is _not_ an absolutely top-flite frame. The very very best frames from the 1970's and 1980's had a cutout on the bottom of the bottom bracket to lighten up the frameset. I wonder how much weight those cutouts saved (?) Ask all of the mid '70s Guerciotti owners with the star shaped stress riser BB shells! ;-) Just about every one that I saw from that era ended up with a cracked BB shell. Chas. |
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Help Identify old Bike Italian Road Frame
* * Chas wrote: "Ozark Bicycle" wrote in message ps.com... Donald Gillies wrote: Four things say that this is a high-quality frameset : (a) The reinforcing tangs on the rear brake bridge, found on high quality frames. (b) The barrel for brake mounting on the rear bridge, found on high quality frames. (c) The cinelli fork crown. (d) Chainstay brazing treatment. However, the lack of bottom-bracket cutouts mean this is _not_ an absolutely top-flite frame. The very very best frames from the 1970's and 1980's had a cutout on the bottom of the bottom bracket to lighten up the frameset. I wonder how much weight those cutouts saved (?) Ask all of the mid '70s Guerciotti owners with the star shaped stress riser BB shells! ;-) Just about every one that I saw from that era ended up with a cracked BB shell. Making large cutouts in a BB shell, whether to "save (not much) weight" or to be fancy, seems an extremely dumb idea. Chas. |
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