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Hello fellow environment guardians.
This came to my attention when reading clean air tips at www.aircare.ca "Avoid rapid acceleration (putting the pedal to the metal) which can produce more than 40 times the emissions of normal driving." That means when ever a driver gets ****ed off from seeing a cyclists and speeds up to get away from you like you are vermin he is polluting the air 40X more than if you were not there in front of him. I know it IS there fault but that puts my world out of wack cause I believed I was improving air quality and now it is a few degrees less so. Also, idling more that 30 seconds is worse than shutting off the motor and starting up again. I guesss some intersections they could get everyone shutting off the motor then. haha |
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On 2007-01-24, nash wrote:
"Avoid rapid acceleration (putting the pedal to the metal) which can produce more than 40 times the emissions of normal driving." That means when ever a driver gets ****ed off from seeing a cyclists and speeds up to get away from you like you are vermin he is polluting the air 40X more than if you were not there in front of him. I know it IS there fault but that puts my world out of wack cause I believed I was improving air quality and now it is a few degrees less so. Assholes will just find another excuse to be assholes if you aren't there. Quit worrying about it and ride. Also, idling more that 30 seconds is worse than shutting off the motor and starting up again. I guesss some intersections they could get everyone shutting off the motor then. haha I do that at tain tracks if I can't see the end of the train, or if it's crawling through the crossing. -- __o Kristian Zoerhoff _'\(,_ (_)/ (_) |
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On Jan 24, 12:58 pm, Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote: On 2007-01-24, nash wrote: "Avoid rapid acceleration (putting the pedal to the metal) which can produce more than 40 times the emissions of normal driving." That means when ever a driver gets ****ed off from seeing a cyclists and speeds up to get away from you like you are vermin he is polluting the air 40X more than if you were not there in front of him. I know it IS there fault but that puts my world out of wack cause I believed I was improving air quality and now it is a few degrees less so.Assholes will just find another excuse to be assholes if you aren't there. Making a difference? Har har. Best reason to ride is because you like to. If it eases traffic or pollution, so be it, but it's likely just a drop in the bucket. Ride for the same reason the Dutch do--it's silly to use a car for most trips. Ride because bikes are neat and elegant and make you look cool. Don't ride to be a self righteous hippie (not saying that you are :-P), let the benefits happen due to coincidence. "Damn, my butt got smaller! Oh, that's right, I've been riding that bicycle thing..." Quit worrying about it and ride. Also, idling more that 30 seconds is worse than shutting off the motor and starting up again. I guesss some intersections they could get everyone shutting off the motor then. hahaI do that at tain tracks if I can't see the end of the train, or if it's crawling through the crossing. I always shut off the car if I'm waiting for somebody, at a RR crossing, etc. It's the law in much of Scandinavia AFAIK. Around here though, people leave their cars running when they shop at the convenience store on the corner, as if shutting them off is some sort of burden. Saw a guy's car stolen due to this. Amusingly enough, he was plastered. I told him it was just the caring neighborhood youth trying to keep him out of a DUI... |
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Also, idling more that 30 seconds is worse than shutting off the motor
and starting up again. I guesss some intersections they could get everyone Intersections are normally 30 seconds per change green to red and red to green. Any idling more than that is uneccessary. It really unnerves me. My Dad was a mechanic and he said the ignition would wear out. Came from the same old wives tale that turning the TV on and off wears it out or uses more power than watching it for hours. And the PC come to think of it. Both TV and PC monitor probably use about 5 light bulbs of energy to run. I wonder what it is with LCD and HDTV, everything being energy star compliant these days. SN |
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:24:44 GMT, "nash"
wrote: Also, idling more that 30 seconds is worse than shutting off the motor and starting up again. I guesss some intersections they could get everyone shutting off the motor then. haha I think this practice is getting popular in Japan. I recall seeing a feature on TV (some news program perhaps) where people were standing at intersection holding signs encouraging drivers to shut off their engines (I can't read Japanese) while waiting at the light. jeverett3ATsbcglobalDOTnet (John V. Everett) |
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On Jan 24, 4:22 pm, John Everett wrote: On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:24:44 GMT, "nash" wrote: Also, idling more that 30 seconds is worse than shutting off the motor and starting up again. I guesss some intersections they could get everyone shutting off the motor then. hahaI think this practice is getting popular in Japan. I recall seeing a feature on TV (some news program perhaps) where people were standing at intersection holding signs encouraging drivers to shut off their engines (I can't read Japanese) while waiting at the light. jeverett3ATsbcglobalDOTnet (John V. Everett) I thought a couple of car manufactures had already made cars that do this automatically, shut off the engine after 20 seconds and restart once you put your foot on the accelerator. I think Audi made one. |
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:49:45 GMT, "nash"
wrote: My Dad was a mechanic and he said the ignition would wear out. Came from the same old wives tale that turning the TV on and off wears it out or uses more power than watching it for hours. And the PC come to think of it. Both TV and PC monitor probably use about 5 light bulbs of energy to run. I wonder what it is with LCD and HDTV, everything being energy star compliant these days. Ignitions before the 1990s or so did wear out. Anyone that learned to tap the starter to jog the brushes to a better position because they were worn knows this. No old wives tale about it - restoring old cars leaves you with lots of experience with the procedure. Still have the jimmy bar I used leaning against the garage wall. The Saabs and Volvos are long gone... Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... |
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On 24 Jan 2007 12:34:37 -0800, "Marz" wrote:
I thought a couple of car manufactures had already made cars that do this automatically, shut off the engine after 20 seconds and restart once you put your foot on the accelerator. I think Audi made one. My Prius does it, but the hybrids aren't exactly examples of ordinary gas driven cars. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... |
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On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 18:24:44 GMT, "nash"
may have said: Hello fellow environment guardians. This came to my attention when reading clean air tips at www.aircare.ca "Avoid rapid acceleration (putting the pedal to the metal) which can produce more than 40 times the emissions of normal driving." That means when ever a driver gets ****ed off from seeing a cyclists and speeds up to get away from you like you are vermin he is polluting the air 40X more than if you were not there in front of him. I know it IS there fault but that puts my world out of wack cause I believed I was improving air quality and now it is a few degrees less so. Blame the traffic planners who insist on using one roadway for all purposes. Expect the regulations to put even Segways out into traffic in places where that is not already the case; IME the planners all drive cars, and seldom have a clue about the implications of the policies they institute. Also, idling more that 30 seconds is worse than shutting off the motor and starting up again. I guesss some intersections they could get everyone shutting off the motor then. haha This assertion is true only for modern, fuel-injected vehicles with efficient fuel delivery systems. For the older carbureted engines, it was more like two or three minutes. VW tried a stop/start engine with one of their Diesels[1], and Cushman successfully does it with their gas-engine golf carts and personnel carriers, but most gasoline-powered autos would have problems with such a system. Also, the inevitable small delay in taking off from the intersection would slow the progress of traffic too much in many situaions, resulting in a significant increase in emissions as drivers accelerated harder to try to beat the next light change. [1] The 1980's-era VW Rabbit was nominally available with a Diesel coupled to an automatic transmission; that model had a fairly massive flywheel (ordinarily not used with an automatic) which was electrically clutched to provide restart energy so that the engine could come to a full stop when the vehicle was halted. It sort of worked, but consumers intensely disliked the immediate cessation of air conditioning effectiveness when the vehicle stopped, so it was seldom sold outside of cold-climate markets. -- My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail. Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature. Words processed in a facility that contains nuts. |
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"nash" wrote: (clip) I believed I was improving air quality and now it is a few degrees less so. (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ So if, God forbid, you were to be the victim of a hit-run, you would share in the guilt? |
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