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On 12/10/2017 1:36 PM, Andy wrote:
I was crossing crosswalk with green light. Lady made a right at red light. She never looked right. I was hit. Broke left hand and neck pain. I will never again cross at light. Will cross between blocks. Can't trust anyone!! Andy If possible, crossing mid-block is a good idea. Intersections are of course a more dangerous place to cross because you have vehicles coming from so many more directions. However a lot of crosswalks are to cross multi-lane divided roads, and it's often not practical to cross mid-block. |
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 01:39:55 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
wrote: Frank Krygowski wrote: On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 10:14:22 AM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote: The deal I've encountered lately are dogs on airplanes. WTF? Take a Xanax or Ativan. Ah yes. A couple years ago we were on a flight from Pittsburgh to Florida. Someone up toward the front of the plane had a little dog in a carrier. The dog spent the entire flight going "Yip! ... Yip! ... Yip!" It yipped every five seconds or so all the way to Florida. The owners never reacted a bit. - Frank Krygowski It's a comfort animal. You can repeat to yourself "If the plane crashes and bursts into flames, at least that f$#king dog will stop barking." In that instance, unfortunately airliners crash so seldom :-) -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-8, Ralph Barone wrote:
Frank Krygowski wrote: On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 10:14:22 AM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote: The deal I've encountered lately are dogs on airplanes. WTF? Take a Xanax or Ativan. Ah yes. A couple years ago we were on a flight from Pittsburgh to Florida. Someone up toward the front of the plane had a little dog in a carrier. The dog spent the entire flight going "Yip! ... Yip! ... Yip!" It yipped every five seconds or so all the way to Florida. The owners never reacted a bit. - Frank Krygowski It's a comfort animal. You can repeat to yourself "If the plane crashes and bursts into flames, at least that f$#king dog will stop barking." The ADA was tightened up to prevent people from claiming that odd-ball creatures like iguanas were service animals, although there are still laws in various states and, I think, the the Fair Housing Act (FHA) that protect practically any kind of pet claimed to be a service or support animal. I did a bunch of FHA claims a million years ago that involved suits claiming discrimination based on "no pet" policies. I think new regs came along that fixed some of the problems, but it is still against the law to exclude a potential tenant because he or she has a service animal. Half the time, it's a racket to get around no pet policies. What astounds me is that pets are now necessary -- not optional or elective.. There are billboards around PDX saying "end petlessness" https://www.oregonhumane.org/wp-cont...Widmer_web.jpg Sorry, no dogs at the table. They are not people and will not be drinking beer with me at the Widmer Brewpub.The world has gotten too sappy. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 8:38:14 PM UTC-6, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 12/12/2017 2:23 PM, Andy wrote: On Monday, December 11, 2017 at 8:48:33 AM UTC-6, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 12/11/2017 6:48 AM, Andy wrote: On Sunday, December 10, 2017 at 5:26:19 PM UTC-6, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 12/10/2017 4:36 PM, Andy wrote: I was crossing crosswalk with green light. Lady made a right at red light. She never looked right. I was hit. Broke left hand and neck pain. I will never again cross at light. Will cross between blocks. Can't trust anyone!! You certainly have to be very choosy about whom you trust. But you also have to behave in a predictable manner. It sounds like you were going straight ahead while you were to the right of a car that turned right. I try to never put myself in that position. It's responsible for many serious crashes, often fatal ones. That's why that location has the nickname "coffin corner." See http://iamtraffic.org/glossary/coffin-corner/ That website talks specifically about a bike lane, but the same principle applies if its a sidewalk, or even if you're on a street or road with no bike lane. Don't put yourself to the right of a vehicle that may turn right. _Especially_ don't do it with trucks, buses or other large vehicles. They have blind spots that make it even harder to spot you in that position. Bicycles are safest at intersections if they are where motorists expect vehicles to be, and if the bicyclists are performing normal traffic movements. For more on this, see http://www.kansascyclist.com/news/20...coffin-corner/ -- - Frank Krygowski Don't put yourself to the right of a vehicle that may turn right. That's difficult to do when a cyclist has to cross. Any cyclist on the road will ALWAYS be on someone's right. Sorry, that's absolutely false. There are cyclists who are knowledgeable enough not to ride in the gutter, and knowledgeable enough to avoid bike lanes and sidewalks that put them at risk. Admittedly, most cyclists don't have that knowledge. But most cyclists think they already know everything about how to ride a bike. Go figure! -- - Frank Krygowski You are entitled to your opinion even if wrong. OK, I'll admit to being wrong in one sense: It is true that any cyclist on the road will be to _someone's_ right. It could be someone on a road a mile away. It could be someone walking on a sidewalk. It could be someone sitting at a desk. Is that what you meant? But it's certainly not necessary for a cyclist to always ride to the right of a motorist traveling the same road in the same direction. When that occurs at an intersection, the cyclist is assuming some risk. BTW, there are people who say you were walking when hit in the crosswalk, not riding a bike. So, which was it? -- - Frank Krygowski Riding. |
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:32:17 -0800 (PST), jbeattie
wrote: On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-8, Ralph Barone wrote: Frank Krygowski wrote: On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 10:14:22 AM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote: The deal I've encountered lately are dogs on airplanes. WTF? Take a Xanax or Ativan. Ah yes. A couple years ago we were on a flight from Pittsburgh to Florida. Someone up toward the front of the plane had a little dog in a carrier. The dog spent the entire flight going "Yip! ... Yip! ... Yip!" It yipped every five seconds or so all the way to Florida. The owners never reacted a bit. - Frank Krygowski It's a comfort animal. You can repeat to yourself "If the plane crashes and bursts into flames, at least that f$#king dog will stop barking." The ADA was tightened up to prevent people from claiming that odd-ball creatures like iguanas were service animals, although there are still laws in various states and, I think, the the Fair Housing Act (FHA) that protect practically any kind of pet claimed to be a service or support animal. I did a bunch of FHA claims a million years ago that involved suits claiming discrimination based on "no pet" policies. I think new regs came along that fixed some of the problems, but it is still against the law to exclude a potential tenant because he or she has a service animal. Half the time, it's a racket to get around no pet policies. Solely out of curiosity, doesn't one have to prove that one's "service animal" actually provides a necessary service? What astounds me is that pets are now necessary -- not optional or elective. There are billboards around PDX saying "end petlessness" https://www.oregonhumane.org/wp-cont...Widmer_web.jpg Sorry, no dogs at the table. They are not people and will not be drinking beer with me at the Widmer Brewpub.The world has gotten too sappy. -- Jay Beattie. It could encourage a whole new industry. Pet Bars, Pet Flights, think of it, Bars could even be divided into Doggie Bars, Kitty Bars, even Iguana Bars, and imaging a coast to coast flight service, "PET's Flight" (pooper scoopers furnished free and room deodorant sprayed at frequent intervals). -- Cheers, John B. |
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On 12/13/2017 8:00 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:32:17 -0800 (PST), jbeattie wrote: On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-8, Ralph Barone wrote: Frank Krygowski wrote: On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 10:14:22 AM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote: The deal I've encountered lately are dogs on airplanes. WTF? Take a Xanax or Ativan. Ah yes. A couple years ago we were on a flight from Pittsburgh to Florida. Someone up toward the front of the plane had a little dog in a carrier. The dog spent the entire flight going "Yip! ... Yip! ... Yip!" It yipped every five seconds or so all the way to Florida. The owners never reacted a bit. - Frank Krygowski It's a comfort animal. You can repeat to yourself "If the plane crashes and bursts into flames, at least that f$#king dog will stop barking." The ADA was tightened up to prevent people from claiming that odd-ball creatures like iguanas were service animals, although there are still laws in various states and, I think, the the Fair Housing Act (FHA) that protect practically any kind of pet claimed to be a service or support animal. I did a bunch of FHA claims a million years ago that involved suits claiming discrimination based on "no pet" policies. I think new regs came along that fixed some of the problems, but it is still against the law to exclude a potential tenant because he or she has a service animal. Half the time, it's a racket to get around no pet policies. Solely out of curiosity, doesn't one have to prove that one's "service animal" actually provides a necessary service? What astounds me is that pets are now necessary -- not optional or elective. There are billboards around PDX saying "end petlessness" https://www.oregonhumane.org/wp-cont...Widmer_web.jpg Sorry, no dogs at the table. They are not people and will not be drinking beer with me at the Widmer Brewpub.The world has gotten too sappy. -- Jay Beattie. It could encourage a whole new industry. Pet Bars, Pet Flights, think of it, Bars could even be divided into Doggie Bars, Kitty Bars, even Iguana Bars, and imaging a coast to coast flight service, "PET's Flight" (pooper scoopers furnished free and room deodorant sprayed at frequent intervals). Solely out of curiosity, doesn't one have to prove that one's "service animal" actually provides a necessary service? ha ha ha . On what planet? I'm sure that will be addressed right after people with free government opiate prescriptions, which they sell in bulk, and just after people who enjoy fishing skiing and offroad cycling every day while on permanent disability and as soon as resolution appears for people who are gainfully employed while collecting relief in two adjacent counties. I won't hold my breath. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 20:25:23 -0600, AMuzi wrote:
On 12/13/2017 8:00 PM, John B. wrote: On Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:32:17 -0800 (PST), jbeattie wrote: On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 5:39:59 PM UTC-8, Ralph Barone wrote: Frank Krygowski wrote: On Tuesday, December 12, 2017 at 10:14:22 AM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote: The deal I've encountered lately are dogs on airplanes. WTF? Take a Xanax or Ativan. Ah yes. A couple years ago we were on a flight from Pittsburgh to Florida. Someone up toward the front of the plane had a little dog in a carrier. The dog spent the entire flight going "Yip! ... Yip! ... Yip!" It yipped every five seconds or so all the way to Florida. The owners never reacted a bit. - Frank Krygowski It's a comfort animal. You can repeat to yourself "If the plane crashes and bursts into flames, at least that f$#king dog will stop barking." The ADA was tightened up to prevent people from claiming that odd-ball creatures like iguanas were service animals, although there are still laws in various states and, I think, the the Fair Housing Act (FHA) that protect practically any kind of pet claimed to be a service or support animal. I did a bunch of FHA claims a million years ago that involved suits claiming discrimination based on "no pet" policies. I think new regs came along that fixed some of the problems, but it is still against the law to exclude a potential tenant because he or she has a service animal. Half the time, it's a racket to get around no pet policies. Solely out of curiosity, doesn't one have to prove that one's "service animal" actually provides a necessary service? What astounds me is that pets are now necessary -- not optional or elective. There are billboards around PDX saying "end petlessness" https://www.oregonhumane.org/wp-cont...Widmer_web.jpg Sorry, no dogs at the table. They are not people and will not be drinking beer with me at the Widmer Brewpub.The world has gotten too sappy. -- Jay Beattie. It could encourage a whole new industry. Pet Bars, Pet Flights, think of it, Bars could even be divided into Doggie Bars, Kitty Bars, even Iguana Bars, and imaging a coast to coast flight service, "PET's Flight" (pooper scoopers furnished free and room deodorant sprayed at frequent intervals). Solely out of curiosity, doesn't one have to prove that one's "service animal" actually provides a necessary service? ha ha ha . On what planet? I'm sure that will be addressed right after people with free government opiate prescriptions, which they sell in bulk, and just after people who enjoy fishing skiing and offroad cycling every day while on permanent disability and as soon as resolution appears for people who are gainfully employed while collecting relief in two adjacent counties. I won't hold my breath. You will have to wait for me, I guess. I left the U.S. so many years ago that I'm no longer "up to speed" with more modern and innovative countries. I was referring to renting when it says "NO PETS ALLOWED!" and the renter is trying to argue his elephant is a "service animal" There was a case here a year or so ago. The case here went to court and while the court admitted that the elephant worked and provided a source of income to it's owner it was not a "service animal" in the same sense as a seeing eye dog (for example) and couldn't live "in the back of the shop". In respect to the remainder of your post I've always felt that Marx had it right when he wrote, "from each according to his abilities". Thought a big pile of street sweeping brooms next to City Hall was a grand idea. If you didn't have any money you could always go down to City Hall at 05:30 (got to get a good start on the day) sign your name, or make you mark, and get a broom and start sweeping the streets. At Quitting Time you came back, returned your broom and they gave you your day's pay. Think of it! The Dignity of Labour and Keeping Your City Clean. All on the same day. -- Cheers, John B. |
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On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 08:36:06 +0700, John B.
wrote: On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:48:28 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 12/11/2017 6:48 AM, Andy wrote: On Sunday, December 10, 2017 at 5:26:19 PM UTC-6, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 12/10/2017 4:36 PM, Andy wrote: I was crossing crosswalk with green light. Lady made a right at red light. She never looked right. I was hit. Broke left hand and neck pain. I will never again cross at light. Will cross between blocks. Can't trust anyone!! You certainly have to be very choosy about whom you trust. But you also have to behave in a predictable manner. It sounds like you were going straight ahead while you were to the right of a car that turned right. I try to never put myself in that position. It's responsible for many serious crashes, often fatal ones. That's why that location has the nickname "coffin corner." See http://iamtraffic.org/glossary/coffin-corner/ That website talks specifically about a bike lane, but the same principle applies if its a sidewalk, or even if you're on a street or road with no bike lane. Don't put yourself to the right of a vehicle that may turn right. _Especially_ don't do it with trucks, buses or other large vehicles. They have blind spots that make it even harder to spot you in that position. Bicycles are safest at intersections if they are where motorists expect vehicles to be, and if the bicyclists are performing normal traffic movements. For more on this, see http://www.kansascyclist.com/news/20...coffin-corner/ -- - Frank Krygowski Don't put yourself to the right of a vehicle that may turn right. That's difficult to do when a cyclist has to cross. Any cyclist on the road will ALWAYS be on someone's right. Sorry, that's absolutely false. There are cyclists who are knowledgeable enough not to ride in the gutter, and knowledgeable enough to avoid bike lanes and sidewalks that put them at risk. Admittedly, most cyclists don't have that knowledge. But most cyclists think they already know everything about how to ride a bike. Go figure! Every time one of these conversations start I always have the feeling that there is something missing. On side of the equation there is a giant 200 HP thing, clad in hard steel and weighing a ton or more. On the other side we have a thin skinned, feeble creature wearing lycra and weighing ounces for every pound her/his/its adversary weighs. Doesn't Feeble Flora (or Freddy) ever give any thought about which of the antagonists is almost assured of coming out last in any contest? Out of curiosity, does anyone know how antiquated messages like this re-appear on the Web? cheers, John B. |
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On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 6:00:05 PM UTC-5, John B. slocomb wrote:
On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 08:36:06 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:48:28 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 12/11/2017 6:48 AM, Andy wrote: On Sunday, December 10, 2017 at 5:26:19 PM UTC-6, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 12/10/2017 4:36 PM, Andy wrote: I was crossing crosswalk with green light. Lady made a right at red light. She never looked right. I was hit. Broke left hand and neck pain. I will never again cross at light. Will cross between blocks. Can't trust anyone!! You certainly have to be very choosy about whom you trust. But you also have to behave in a predictable manner. It sounds like you were going straight ahead while you were to the right of a car that turned right. I try to never put myself in that position. It's responsible for many serious crashes, often fatal ones. That's why that location has the nickname "coffin corner." See http://iamtraffic.org/glossary/coffin-corner/ That website talks specifically about a bike lane, but the same principle applies if its a sidewalk, or even if you're on a street or road with no bike lane. Don't put yourself to the right of a vehicle that may turn right. _Especially_ don't do it with trucks, buses or other large vehicles. They have blind spots that make it even harder to spot you in that position. Bicycles are safest at intersections if they are where motorists expect vehicles to be, and if the bicyclists are performing normal traffic movements. For more on this, see http://www.kansascyclist.com/news/20...coffin-corner/ -- - Frank Krygowski Don't put yourself to the right of a vehicle that may turn right. That's difficult to do when a cyclist has to cross. Any cyclist on the road will ALWAYS be on someone's right. Sorry, that's absolutely false. There are cyclists who are knowledgeable enough not to ride in the gutter, and knowledgeable enough to avoid bike lanes and sidewalks that put them at risk. Admittedly, most cyclists don't have that knowledge. But most cyclists think they already know everything about how to ride a bike. Go figure! Every time one of these conversations start I always have the feeling that there is something missing. On side of the equation there is a giant 200 HP thing, clad in hard steel and weighing a ton or more. On the other side we have a thin skinned, feeble creature wearing lycra and weighing ounces for every pound her/his/its adversary weighs. Doesn't Feeble Flora (or Freddy) ever give any thought about which of the antagonists is almost assured of coming out last in any contest? Out of curiosity, does anyone know how antiquated messages like this re-appear on the Web? cheers, John B. Just means that someone didn't read the date of the post they're replying to or someone saw an old post and decided to add something to it. Heck we sometimes see Zombie threads of a decade or more old being resurrected. Cheers |
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 15:39:51 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote: On Saturday, November 17, 2018 at 6:00:05 PM UTC-5, John B. slocomb wrote: On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 08:36:06 +0700, John B. wrote: On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:48:28 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 12/11/2017 6:48 AM, Andy wrote: On Sunday, December 10, 2017 at 5:26:19 PM UTC-6, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 12/10/2017 4:36 PM, Andy wrote: I was crossing crosswalk with green light. Lady made a right at red light. She never looked right. I was hit. Broke left hand and neck pain. I will never again cross at light. Will cross between blocks. Can't trust anyone!! You certainly have to be very choosy about whom you trust. But you also have to behave in a predictable manner. It sounds like you were going straight ahead while you were to the right of a car that turned right. I try to never put myself in that position. It's responsible for many serious crashes, often fatal ones. That's why that location has the nickname "coffin corner." See http://iamtraffic.org/glossary/coffin-corner/ That website talks specifically about a bike lane, but the same principle applies if its a sidewalk, or even if you're on a street or road with no bike lane. Don't put yourself to the right of a vehicle that may turn right. _Especially_ don't do it with trucks, buses or other large vehicles. They have blind spots that make it even harder to spot you in that position. Bicycles are safest at intersections if they are where motorists expect vehicles to be, and if the bicyclists are performing normal traffic movements. For more on this, see http://www.kansascyclist.com/news/20...coffin-corner/ -- - Frank Krygowski Don't put yourself to the right of a vehicle that may turn right. That's difficult to do when a cyclist has to cross. Any cyclist on the road will ALWAYS be on someone's right. Sorry, that's absolutely false. There are cyclists who are knowledgeable enough not to ride in the gutter, and knowledgeable enough to avoid bike lanes and sidewalks that put them at risk. Admittedly, most cyclists don't have that knowledge. But most cyclists think they already know everything about how to ride a bike. Go figure! Every time one of these conversations start I always have the feeling that there is something missing. On side of the equation there is a giant 200 HP thing, clad in hard steel and weighing a ton or more. On the other side we have a thin skinned, feeble creature wearing lycra and weighing ounces for every pound her/his/its adversary weighs. Doesn't Feeble Flora (or Freddy) ever give any thought about which of the antagonists is almost assured of coming out last in any contest? Out of curiosity, does anyone know how antiquated messages like this re-appear on the Web? cheers, John B. Just means that someone didn't read the date of the post they're replying to or someone saw an old post and decided to add something to it. Heck we sometimes see Zombie threads of a decade or more old being resurrected. Cheers I replied to Frank's post back in December of 2017 and the thread ended with my post and nothing further was heard until this morning when I downloaded messages and there it was, 11 months later. I realize that while the message was pregnant with meaning the gestation period seems a bit long :-) cheers, John B. |
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