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Bad Journalism - Bicycling Lance Article
If Bicycling ever prints or posts another article by Joe Lindsey, or doesn't
print an apology, they will see a large number of magazine subscription cancellations. The article sent via the web on 7/24 did not present the facts, but was an emotional attack on Lance and cycling. Since when is predicting the surfacing of a colder and spiteful Lance and then looking for any signs to support that prediction good journalism? Joe continually referred to Armstrong as ugly: "ugliest side broke out of the grandest champion," "ugly agenda," "Amstrong's comment . . . is ugly." The final straw is throwing facts out the window and stating that it just boiled down to Lance wanting to make someone else fail. It even attacks Sheryl Crow.... why? I could go on, but you get the idea. I am very disappointed that Bicycling supported this article. I am all for learning both sides of the story and think both sides should be told. That is why I read the article. But the story should be based on facts. If someone has to constantly use terms such as "ugly" and add "freaking" to someone's name and indicate Lance is cold and spiteful without any facts, Bicycling should not publish the article. I am very hopeful that Bicycling will realize that good judgment was not used in going forward with this piece, especially on the eve of Lance's history-making sixth Tour de France win. I sent Bicycling an e-mail (please feel free to send your own) and will post their response here. http://www.bicycling.com/tourdefranc...1-9781,00.html |
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Bad Journalism - Bicycling Lance Article
WillW wrote:
If Bicycling ever prints or posts another article by Joe Lindsey, or doesn't print an apology, they will see a large number of magazine subscription cancellations. (snipt) http://www.bicycling.com/tourdefranc...1-9781,00.html I thought it was a well written piece. The key tip-off being the opening sub-head were it reads "opinion". I don't agree with everything the guy writes, nor do I pretend to understand the relationship between Armstrong and Simeoni (I doubt few do!) In that light, however, I think Lindsey's opinion is far from extreme. I am a fan of Lance Armstrong and am amazed with what he's accomplished in cycling, but I'm not so naive to think that Armstrong can do no wrong. Further, I actually respect a magazine that will print the something other than "all Lance, all the time." Frankly the guy raises some good questions. ....and he didn't "attack" Sheryl Crow. It was merely a good dose of sarcasm. He was making that a guy dating Sheryl Crow and making $16M a year doesn't have to worry about some no-name weasel trying to garner his 15 minutes of fame. You might want to re-read the thing with a more objective eye. I congratulate Bicycling for actually publishing something other than some marketing goo proclaiming the latest carbon doo-dad that will allow us all to "climb like Lance." 'Course that's just my opinion..... Tom |
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Bad Journalism - Bicycling Lance Article
tcmedara wrote:
|| WillW wrote: ||| If Bicycling ever prints or posts another article by Joe Lindsey, or ||| doesn't print an apology, they will see a large number of magazine ||| subscription cancellations. || (snipt) ||| ||| || http://www.bicycling.com/tourdefranc...1-9781,00.html || || I thought it was a well written piece. The key tip-off being the || opening sub-head were it reads "opinion". I don't agree with || everything the guy writes, nor do I pretend to understand the || relationship between Armstrong and Simeoni (I doubt few do!) In || that light, however, I think Lindsey's opinion is far from extreme. || I am a fan of Lance Armstrong and am amazed with what he's || accomplished in cycling, but I'm not so naive to think that || Armstrong can do no wrong. Further, I actually respect a magazine || that will print the something other than "all Lance, all the time." || Frankly the guy raises some good questions. || || ...and he didn't "attack" Sheryl Crow. It was merely a good dose of || sarcasm. He was making that a guy dating Sheryl Crow and making $16M || a year doesn't have to worry about some no-name weasel trying to || garner his 15 minutes of fame. You might want to re-read the thing || with a more objective eye. I congratulate Bicycling for actually || publishing something other than some marketing goo proclaiming the || latest carbon doo-dad that will allow us all to "climb like Lance." || || 'Course that's just my opinion..... I think the reason LA didn't chase down Simeoni the first time he broke away is because he was too concerned about his own position in the race and thought it too risky. When he did chase Simeoni down, he had his victory virtually assured. |
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Bad Journalism - Bicycling Lance Article
tcmedara wrote:
|| ...and he didn't "attack" Sheryl Crow. It was merely a good dose of || sarcasm. He was making that a guy dating Sheryl Crow and making $16M || a year doesn't have to worry about some no-name weasel trying to || garner his 15 minutes of fame. You might want to re-read the thing || with a more objective eye. I congratulate Bicycling for actually || publishing something other than some marketing goo proclaiming the || latest carbon doo-dad that will allow us all to "climb like Lance." He could have made the point just as well without referring to SC in that matter. I'm sure she would not appreciate it. Besides that, I agree with his opinion. Simeoni is insignificant. LA going after him just really doesn't help the sport or the peloton in any way I can see. And it certainly does suggest "another side" to LA that we, the public and fans, don't often see but we got a glimpse of in the 2004 TdF. Honestly, though, it is not surprising. |
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Bad Journalism - Bicycling Lance Article
What are you doing wasting your time reading/wasting your money buying
BUY-cycling ragazine in the first place? "WillW" wrote in message ... | If Bicycling ever prints or posts another article by Joe Lindsey, or doesn't | print an apology, they will see a large number of magazine subscription | cancellations. |
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Bad Journalism - Bicycling Lance Article
On Sun, 25 Jul 2004 08:20:54 -0400, Roger Zoul wrote:
tcmedara wrote: || ...and he didn't "attack" Sheryl Crow. It was merely a good dose of || sarcasm. He was making that a guy dating Sheryl Crow and making $16M || a year doesn't have to worry about some no-name weasel trying to || garner his 15 minutes of fame. You might want to re-read the thing || with a more objective eye. I congratulate Bicycling for actually || publishing something other than some marketing goo proclaiming the || latest carbon doo-dad that will allow us all to "climb like Lance." He could have made the point just as well without referring to SC in that matter. I'm sure she would not appreciate it. Besides that, I agree with his opinion. Simeoni is insignificant. LA going after him just really doesn't help the sport or the peloton in any way I can see. And it certainly does suggest "another side" to LA that we, the public and fans, don't often see but we got a glimpse of in the 2004 TdF. Honestly, though, it is not surprising. I did a little more digging after a few links were posted here. I'm a Lance fan (first because he beat cancer) and that move did make me wonder (big time). I won't pretend to usnderstand what went on but I did read one comment from another member of the Peleton (no US Postal). They said that Simeoni has a habit of bad mouthing the peleton when off the bike and that Simeoni was being taught not to '**** where you eat' -- Linux Home Automation Neil Cherry http://home.comcast.net/~ncherry/ (Text only) http://linuxha.sourceforge.net/ (SourceForge) http://hcs.sourceforge.net/ (HCS II) |
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Bad Journalism - Bicycling Lance Article
In article , "Doug Huffman"
writes: What are you doing wasting your time reading/wasting your money buying BUY-cycling ragazine in the first place? Well you can read it in an hour or two. Just don't take it serious. |
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Bad Journalism - Bicycling Lance Article
In article , "Roger Zoul"
writes: He could have made the point just as well without referring to SC in that matter. I'm sure she would not appreciate it. Besides that, I agree with his opinion. Simeoni is insignificant. LA going after him just really doesn't help the sport or the peloton in any way I can see. And it certainly does suggest "another side" to LA that we, the public and fans, don't often see but we got a glimpse of in the 2004 TdF. Honestly, though, it is not surprising. Ignornig the journalist. What Lance did was traditional. He put put Simioni in his place where it counted most, among his fellow riders, his peers. |
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Bad Journalism - Bicycling Lance Article
Sun, 25 Jul 2004 08:26:25 -0500, ,
Neil Cherry wrote: They said that Simeoni has a habit of bad mouthing the peleton when off the bike and that Simeoni was being taught not to '**** where you eat' Wow, that Lance is such a hero! He's America's next Carl Lewis! -- zk |
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Bad Journalism - Bicycling Lance Article
No more than I take this post "serious[sic]". An hour? Really?
"whinds" wrote in message ... | In article , "Doug Huffman" | writes: | | | What are you doing wasting your time reading/wasting your money buying | BUY-cycling ragazine in the first place? | | | Well you can read it in an hour or two. Just don't take it serious. |
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