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I find it works better to put it on the trailer
behind the bicycle. Fortunately the route back from Home Depot is downhill. yeah sure, (5) 2 x 12's 12 foot long pulled by a bicycle, there's no sin in owning a truck |
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"Fx199" wrote in message
... yeah sure, (5) 2 x 12's 12 foot long pulled by a bicycle, there's no sin in owning a truck Exactly. I don't need someone trying to tell me what to drive. |
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George Conklin Wrote: "Chalo" wrote in message om... Consider than most of the people in the world make their way on a dollar a day or less, and you see how we have squandered our productivity. We consume and destroy 100 times as much, but we are no happier. We could have eradicated poverty and disease with the money we waste on our cars and their infrastructure. We could have had urban transit that would be the envy of the world. Instead we sit in traffic and suck exhaust fumes. What glorious drivel and lies. The average commute by car is 20 minutes. Not much time to be stuck now is it? You can wait 20 minutes for your subway to get there, not counting the walk time to the station and the walk on the other end. im with you but to me this sounds like if we would all go to bikes that makes us one step closer to communisim (which is just about the most worthless type of government "for the people of the country" that i have ever heard of. -- oznation |
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But that doesn't include the energy costs of producing the oil and
transporting it to the gas station where our driver filled up his SUV. If you want to be fair- and I know you do- then you'll have to add that to the equation. Why didn't you add the cost of the food, and how it got there? I bet it didn't get there by bicycle. Bicycling is great exercise, but you guys are getting delusional utopian fantasies. There's no way most people in northern states are going to bicycle in the winter time. |
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Tim McNamara Wrote: Bob in CT writes: On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 12:18:51 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: Heart attack? Ask any doctor whether cycling helps prevent heart attack. It reduces your risk of heart attack, but does not prevent it. Ask Jim Fixx (the guy who started the running revolution, and who died of a heart attack). There are other examples of people who exercised a lot and died of heart attacks. Life does not come with a money back guarantee. No one here gets out alive. Etc. etc. I don't know about you, but I'll do what I can to lower my risks of relatively preventible illnesses. I watched my Dad, aged 67, suffer and die 30 days after his 3 vessel CABG. He smoked, he was diabetic, he didn't get any exercise for the last 15 years of his short life. I'm 45, have 12% body fat, a total cholesterol of 113, a resting heart rate of 58 bpm. I just got back from riding 12 miles round trip to work and then 50 miles after work for fun. It was a beautiful day. hey man thats really great that you want to stay in shape but most of these people are only thinking inside the box you haev to think outside of the box and think about the people who cannot ride bikes to work or w/e i know im only 17 and have alot to learn in and about life still but you have to think as simple as possible . too many people on this post are thinking about people who are fit and younge enough to still ride a bike. -- oznation |
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Subject: Cities Turning to Bicycles
From: "Eric S. Sande" Date: 9/16/2004 7:54 PM US Eastern Standard Time Message-id: Well, that's nice, but not everyone has bike friendly roads on the route to work, or live close enough to commute to work. Quite. But assuming ideal (or semi ideal) conditions, I ran a back of the envelope calculation on the average one way commute length (10 miles), the average commute time (20 minutes), and the average cost of car ownership (based on what got reported on CNN Money today). Excluding parking costs and health benefits, as nearly as I can determine, given the same hourly income for the car commuter and the bicycle commuter, the break even point is 10 miles, assuming the cyclist can average 15 mph. Anything shorter than 10 miles, the cyclist wins. yeah, but many people need a car for inclement weather, hauling goods, or doing things such as gasp transporting their bikes somewhere, hauling a kayak, etc |
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Well, that's nice, but not everyone has bike friendly roads on the
route to work, or live close enough to commute to work. Quite. But assuming ideal (or semi ideal) conditions, I ran a back of the envelope calculation on the average one way commute length (10 miles), the average commute time (20 minutes), and the average cost of car ownership (based on what got reported on CNN Money today). Excluding parking costs and health benefits, as nearly as I can determine, given the same hourly income for the car commuter and the bicycle commuter, the break even point is 10 miles, assuming the cyclist can average 15 mph. Anything shorter than 10 miles, the cyclist wins. -- _______________________ALL AMIGA IN MY MIND_______________________ ------------------"Buddy Holly, the Texas Elvis"------------------ in.edu__________ |
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"Fx199" wrote No, I would not plan my entire life on my bike trip to work. People switch jobs far too often these days antway. Enjoy your cities and suburbs, folks, I'll be at my quiet lake house, driving my 25 miles one way to work on the highway. Seriously, some of you must have alternative plans when it's pouring down rain or 20 below zero, be realistic. I love bicycling, I love exercise, but it's not a political thing Choosing to ride your bike to work does not have to mean doing every single day. For those that don't want to, it's always too far/too cold/too wet/I have too much crap to carry. Pete |
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oznation wrote:
Tim McNamara Wrote: Life does not come with a money back guarantee. No one here gets out alive. Etc. etc. I don't know about you, but I'll do what I can to lower my risks of relatively preventible illnesses. I watched my Dad, aged 67, suffer and die 30 days after his 3 vessel CABG. He smoked, he was diabetic, he didn't get any exercise for the last 15 years of his short life. I'm 45, have 12% body fat, a total cholesterol of 113, a resting heart rate of 58 bpm. I just got back from riding 12 miles round trip to work and then 50 miles after work for fun. It was a beautiful day. hey man thats really great that you want to stay in shape but most of these people are only thinking inside the box you haev to think outside of the box and think about the people who cannot ride bikes to work or w/e i know im only 17 and have alot to learn in and about life still but you have to think as simple as possible . too many people on this post are thinking about people who are fit and younge enough to still ride a bike. hey man i have no idea what you just said or what point you were trying to make and i don't think you do either. Bill "Tim's pretty healthy...for a liberal! " S. |
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