race kills woman cyclist

young people shouldn't race:

BRIMFIELD, ILL | Highland native Elizabeth Kobeszka -- a high school
valedictorian with a record of success and service -- died during a bicycle
race Saturday after she bumped another bike and hurtled into an oncoming
truck.

Her mother, Vickie Kobeszka, described Elizabeth, 24, as a gifted and
dedicated academic and athlete.

"When she was 16, she was 16 going on 60, that's how intellectual and
responsible she was," Kobeszka said.

Although Elizabeth Kobeszka moved from Highland to Ohio in grade school,
much of her family remains in the region. Elizabeth Kobeszka's grandparents,
Chester and Virginia Ziemniak, own Highland Blueprint. Vickie Kobeszka
graduated from Highland High School as Vickie Ziemniak. Elizabeth Kobeszka's
father, Highland native Ed Kobeszka, lives in Missouri, Vickie Kobeszka
said.

Elizabeth Kobeszka, most recently of Chicago, died at OSF St. Francis
Hospital in Peoria about four hours after the crash Saturday morning during
the 20th annual Proctor Cycling Classic, Peoria County Coroner Johnna
Ingersoll said.

Kobeszka was riding with a pack of cyclists when she hit another bike about
three miles from the finish line on the 17-mile route near Brimfield, about
20 miles northwest of Peoria, police said.

The collision knocked her into the eastbound lane of the country road, where
a horse trailer pulled by a truck ran her over, police said. Ingersoll said
Kobeszka died of multiple injuries, including head injuries. She was wearing
a helmet.

Vickie Kobeszka said Monday she plans to call the truck's driver to tell him
she does not blame him for the accident.

"It has got to be a horrific time for him as well," she said. "I'm just
trying to get my courage up to do this."

Elizabeth Kobeszka founded her Ohio high school's chapter of the Z Club, a
youth offshoot of Zonta International, a women's organization, her mother
said. At Northwestern University, she ran cross country, participated in a
Catholic group and studied in Spain. She was a saleswoman for Johnson &
Johnson in Chicago when she died.

Elizabeth Kobeszka recently voiced uncertainty about her career, Vickie
Kobeszka said. She wanted to be sure she was helping, doing the right thing,
Kobeszka said.

"She always said, 'I want to make a difference,'" she said.

Kobeszka hopes her daughter's death illustrates the need to make sure
athletes are safe at events, she said. Vickie Kobeszka praised hospital
staff, her daughter's teammates and supportive strangers, but said her
daughter's death could have been prevented if the road was blocked to
traffic.

"Here's a young life that's gone now, unnecessarily," she said.

Visitation and funeral service arrangements were pending Monday at
Fagen-Miller Funeral Home in Highland.

"Callistus Valerius" wrote in message
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young people shouldn't race:

BRIMFIELD, ILL | Highland native Elizabeth Kobeszka -- a high school
valedictorian with a record of success and service -- died during a
bicycle
race Saturday after she bumped another bike and hurtled into an oncoming
truck.

Her mother, Vickie Kobeszka, described Elizabeth, 24, as a gifted and
dedicated academic and athlete.

"When she was 16, she was 16 going on 60, that's how intellectual and
responsible she was," Kobeszka said.

Although Elizabeth Kobeszka moved from Highland to Ohio in grade school,
much of her family remains in the region. Elizabeth Kobeszka's
grandparents,
Chester and Virginia Ziemniak, own Highland Blueprint. Vickie Kobeszka
graduated from Highland High School as Vickie Ziemniak. Elizabeth
Kobeszka's
father, Highland native Ed Kobeszka, lives in Missouri, Vickie Kobeszka
said.

Elizabeth Kobeszka, most recently of Chicago, died at OSF St. Francis
Hospital in Peoria about four hours after the crash Saturday morning
during
the 20th annual Proctor Cycling Classic, Peoria County Coroner Johnna
Ingersoll said.

Kobeszka was riding with a pack of cyclists when she hit another bike
about
three miles from the finish line on the 17-mile route near Brimfield,
about
20 miles northwest of Peoria, police said.

The collision knocked her into the eastbound lane of the country road,
where
a horse trailer pulled by a truck ran her over, police said. Ingersoll
said
Kobeszka died of multiple injuries, including head injuries. She was
wearing
a helmet.

Vickie Kobeszka said Monday she plans to call the truck's driver to tell
him
she does not blame him for the accident.

"It has got to be a horrific time for him as well," she said. "I'm just
trying to get my courage up to do this."

Elizabeth Kobeszka founded her Ohio high school's chapter of the Z Club, a
youth offshoot of Zonta International, a women's organization, her mother
said. At Northwestern University, she ran cross country, participated in a
Catholic group and studied in Spain. She was a saleswoman for Johnson &
Johnson in Chicago when she died.

Elizabeth Kobeszka recently voiced uncertainty about her career, Vickie
Kobeszka said. She wanted to be sure she was helping, doing the right
thing,
Kobeszka said.

"She always said, 'I want to make a difference,'" she said.

Kobeszka hopes her daughter's death illustrates the need to make sure
athletes are safe at events, she said. Vickie Kobeszka praised hospital
staff, her daughter's teammates and supportive strangers, but said her
daughter's death could have been prevented if the road was blocked to
traffic.

"Here's a young life that's gone now, unnecessarily," she said.

Visitation and funeral service arrangements were pending Monday at
Fagen-Miller Funeral Home in Highland.


Fck me, are you trying to suck mikeys c*ck or what? I'm sure he'll let his
lapdog lick his arse, but go ask him in person would you.

Dick!

Quoted from a previous response to your attitude problem.

"Your problem, Callistus, is that you instantly assume that you are right
across the spectrum - which you aren't. YOU PERSONALLY think the 29 is the
slickest thing since greased **** slid off the shovel, but there are
those of us out here who think it is perfectly silly, and want to stay
with the 26-er that we know and love. So, by attacking all we hold dear,
you lay yourself open to some flak. And being the dick-head you have since
proved yourself to be, you proceed to call US dickheads for disagreeing
with your stupidity. For an explanation of why this behaviour warrants
this response, see "Vandeman" in the "Troll" section of your local library
(if you can find it)"

Do you not learn from your mistakes?

Andy H

Dick!

Quoted from a previous response to your attitude problem.

"Your problem, Callistus, is that you instantly assume that you are right
across the spectrum - which you aren't. YOU PERSONALLY think the 29 is
the
slickest thing since greased **** slid off the shovel, but there are
those of us out here who think it is perfectly silly, and want to stay
with the 26-er that we know and love. So, by attacking all we hold dear,
you lay yourself open to some flak. And being the dick-head you have
since
proved yourself to be, you proceed to call US dickheads for disagreeing
with your stupidity. For an explanation of why this behaviour warrants
this response, see "Vandeman" in the "Troll" section of your local
library
(if you can find it)"

Do you not learn from your mistakes?

Andy H
-----------
I checked out Vandeman's web site, and it is a work of a mad man, but he's
not a troll. He's confused, life is a stew, where everything is thrown into
the pot, so he can reach whatever conclusion he can pull out of the sky.
But even mad men have moments of brillance, so you can't dismiss it all.

I own a 26er, that's why I quit mtb, and went to road. 29 brought me back
to mtb. It's a can or worms, so I don't want to reopen the issue. But let
me just say this, the landfills are full of old bikes made obsolete by
advances in technology, and design.

The only mistake I made, was by assuming everyone had already reached the
same conclusions, and I wanted people to know I've done my homework and I'm
on board. Little did I know that a primitave nostalgia has taken hold in a
community I left 8 years ago, that was so different then.

"Callistus Valerius" wrote in message
ink.net...
Dick!

Quoted from a previous response to your attitude problem.

"Your problem, Callistus, is that you instantly assume that you are right
across the spectrum - which you aren't. YOU PERSONALLY think the 29 is
the
slickest thing since greased **** slid off the shovel, but there are
those of us out here who think it is perfectly silly, and want to stay
with the 26-er that we know and love. So, by attacking all we hold
dear,
you lay yourself open to some flak. And being the dick-head you have
since
proved yourself to be, you proceed to call US dickheads for disagreeing
with your stupidity. For an explanation of why this behaviour warrants
this response, see "Vandeman" in the "Troll" section of your local
library
(if you can find it)"

Do you not learn from your mistakes?

Andy H
-----------
I checked out Vandeman's web site, and it is a work of a mad man, but he's
not a troll. He's confused, life is a stew, where everything is thrown
into
the pot, so he can reach whatever conclusion he can pull out of the sky.
But even mad men have moments of brillance, so you can't dismiss it all.

I own a 26er, that's why I quit mtb, and went to road. 29 brought me back
to mtb. It's a can or worms, so I don't want to reopen the issue. But
let
me just say this, the landfills are full of old bikes made obsolete by
advances in technology, and design.

The only mistake I made, was by assuming everyone had already reached the
same conclusions, and I wanted people to know I've done my homework and
I'm
on board. Little did I know that a primitave nostalgia has taken hold in
a
community I left 8 years ago, that was so different then.


The reply wasn't re your obsession with the 29er, more your asshole
spamming, sucking up to and emulating vandespam, try reading the op with
your OCD switched off.

G'night

Andy H

On Jul 15, 2:53 pm, "Callistus Valerius"
wrote:

But let
me just say this, the landfills are full of old bikes made obsolete by
advances in technology, and design.


Actually most used bikes end up on a ship back to China.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...C1A9609482 60

Callistus Valerius wrote:
Dick!

Quoted from a previous response to your attitude problem.

"Your problem, Callistus, is that you instantly assume that you are right
across the spectrum - which you aren't. YOU PERSONALLY think the 29 is
the
slickest thing since greased **** slid off the shovel, but there are
those of us out here who think it is perfectly silly, and want to stay
with the 26-er that we know and love. So, by attacking all we hold dear,
you lay yourself open to some flak. And being the dick-head you have
since
proved yourself to be, you proceed to call US dickheads for disagreeing
with your stupidity. For an explanation of why this behaviour warrants
this response, see "Vandeman" in the "Troll" section of your local
library
(if you can find it)"
Do you not learn from your mistakes?

Andy H
-----------
I checked out Vandeman's web site, and it is a work of a mad man, but he's
not a troll. He's confused, life is a stew, where everything is thrown into
the pot, so he can reach whatever conclusion he can pull out of the sky.
But even mad men have moments of brillance, so you can't dismiss it all.

I own a 26er, that's why I quit mtb, and went to road. 29 brought me back
to mtb. It's a can or worms, so I don't want to reopen the issue. But let
me just say this, the landfills are full of old bikes made obsolete by
advances in technology, and design.

The only mistake I made, was by assuming everyone had already reached the
same conclusions, and I wanted people to know I've done my homework and I'm
on board. Little did I know that a primitave nostalgia has taken hold in a
community I left 8 years ago, that was so different then.




No ****. You are the troll. GO AWAY!

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www.schnauzers.ws

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 15:41:34 -0700, CowPunk wrote:

On Jul 15, 2:53 pm, "Callistus Valerius"
wrote:

But let
me just say this, the landfills are full of old bikes made obsolete by
advances in technology, and design.


Actually most used bikes end up on a ship back to China.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...C1A9609482 60


You could find a more recent story? "AP Published: October 14, 1986"
--
Slack

On Jul 15, 5:23 pm, Slack wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 15:41:34 -0700, CowPunk wrote:
On Jul 15, 2:53 pm, "Callistus Valerius"
wrote:

But let
me just say this, the landfills are full of old bikes made obsolete by
advances in technology, and design.

Actually most used bikes end up on a ship back to China.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...113EF937A25753...

You could find a more recent story? "AP Published: October 14, 1986"
--
Slack

Here you go sweetie.

http://www.sfbayguardian.com/entry.p...1&issue_num=40

On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 17:22:50 GMT, "Callistus Valerius"
wrote:

young people shouldn't race:

Yes. It's absurd. But it's why sponsors are able to make money:
viewers like to see thrills.

BRIMFIELD, ILL | Highland native Elizabeth Kobeszka -- a high school
valedictorian with a record of success and service -- died during a bicycle
race Saturday after she bumped another bike and hurtled into an oncoming
truck.

Her mother, Vickie Kobeszka, described Elizabeth, 24, as a gifted and
dedicated academic and athlete.

"When she was 16, she was 16 going on 60, that's how intellectual and
responsible she was," Kobeszka said.

Although Elizabeth Kobeszka moved from Highland to Ohio in grade school,
much of her family remains in the region. Elizabeth Kobeszka's grandparents,
Chester and Virginia Ziemniak, own Highland Blueprint. Vickie Kobeszka
graduated from Highland High School as Vickie Ziemniak. Elizabeth Kobeszka's
father, Highland native Ed Kobeszka, lives in Missouri, Vickie Kobeszka
said.

Elizabeth Kobeszka, most recently of Chicago, died at OSF St. Francis
Hospital in Peoria about four hours after the crash Saturday morning during
the 20th annual Proctor Cycling Classic, Peoria County Coroner Johnna
Ingersoll said.

Kobeszka was riding with a pack of cyclists when she hit another bike about
three miles from the finish line on the 17-mile route near Brimfield, about
20 miles northwest of Peoria, police said.

The collision knocked her into the eastbound lane of the country road, where
a horse trailer pulled by a truck ran her over, police said. Ingersoll said
Kobeszka died of multiple injuries, including head injuries. She was wearing
a helmet.

Vickie Kobeszka said Monday she plans to call the truck's driver to tell him
she does not blame him for the accident.

"It has got to be a horrific time for him as well," she said. "I'm just
trying to get my courage up to do this."

Elizabeth Kobeszka founded her Ohio high school's chapter of the Z Club, a
youth offshoot of Zonta International, a women's organization, her mother
said. At Northwestern University, she ran cross country, participated in a
Catholic group and studied in Spain. She was a saleswoman for Johnson &
Johnson in Chicago when she died.

Elizabeth Kobeszka recently voiced uncertainty about her career, Vickie
Kobeszka said. She wanted to be sure she was helping, doing the right thing,
Kobeszka said.

"She always said, 'I want to make a difference,'" she said.

Kobeszka hopes her daughter's death illustrates the need to make sure
athletes are safe at events, she said. Vickie Kobeszka praised hospital
staff, her daughter's teammates and supportive strangers, but said her
daughter's death could have been prevented if the road was blocked to
traffic.

"Here's a young life that's gone now, unnecessarily," she said.

Visitation and funeral service arrangements were pending Monday at
Fagen-Miller Funeral Home in Highland.

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On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:53:07 GMT, "Callistus Valerius"
wrote:

Dick!

Quoted from a previous response to your attitude problem.

"Your problem, Callistus, is that you instantly assume that you are right
across the spectrum - which you aren't. YOU PERSONALLY think the 29 is
the
slickest thing since greased **** slid off the shovel, but there are
those of us out here who think it is perfectly silly, and want to stay
with the 26-er that we know and love. So, by attacking all we hold dear,
you lay yourself open to some flak. And being the dick-head you have
since
proved yourself to be, you proceed to call US dickheads for disagreeing
with your stupidity. For an explanation of why this behaviour warrants
this response, see "Vandeman" in the "Troll" section of your local
library
(if you can find it)"

Do you not learn from your mistakes?

Andy H
-----------
I checked out Vandeman's web site, and it is a work of a mad man,

Lack of specifics are a sure indication of BS. It means that you can't
defend your assertions.

but he's
not a troll. He's confused, life is a stew, where everything is thrown into
the pot, so he can reach whatever conclusion he can pull out of the sky.
But even mad men have moments of brillance, so you can't dismiss it all.

I own a 26er, that's why I quit mtb, and went to road. 29 brought me back
to mtb. It's a can or worms, so I don't want to reopen the issue. But let
me just say this, the landfills are full of old bikes made obsolete by
advances in technology, and design.

The only mistake I made, was by assuming everyone had already reached the
same conclusions, and I wanted people to know I've done my homework and I'm
on board. Little did I know that a primitave nostalgia has taken hold in a
community I left 8 years ago, that was so different then.

--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande