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My wife just bought an Electrolux dish washer and it's manual leaves a great deal to be desired. Thus my very off topic questions: It has a salt reservoir for the water softener - how often does one have to re-fill it? How can one tell when it is empty? It has a reservoir for a rinse detergent - how often does one have to fill it? How can one tell when it is empty? The wash and dry programs seem to range from almost 3 hours to about 30 minutes. What program would one initially select for table dishes for a family of two? -- cheers, John B. |
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On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 16:34:56 +0700, John B. wrote:
My wife just bought an Electrolux dish washer and it's manual leaves a great deal to be desired. Thus my very off topic questions: It has a salt reservoir for the water softener - how often does one have to re-fill it? How can one tell when it is empty? It and other reservoirs are one of those things you will just hae to check regularly until you get a feel for your dishwasher. It has a reservoir for a rinse detergent - how often does one have to fill it? How can one tell when it is empty? The wash and dry programs seem to range from almost 3 hours to about 30 minutes. What program would one initially select for table dishes for a family of two? Again it is suck it and see from experience, Tthe amount of washing plates from each meal take will vary between different meals. Try starting with the shortest, if not cleaning, make the next wash longer. Also, does it have a "pre-wash cycle where you can wash/rinse the plates each time you put a meals worth in, until you get a washer full to run the full wash. Caveat; depending on the machine, you might be better off doing a full wash each time. |
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Am 29.11.2019 um 10:34 schrieb John B.:
My wife just bought an Electrolux dish washer and it's manual leaves a great deal to be desired. Thus my very off topic questions: It has a salt reservoir for the water softener - how often does one have to re-fill it? How can one tell when it is empty? This strongly depends on how ward your water is, in areas with soft water you may take "combined" dishwater tabs including salt instead. In our "hard water" area, for a family of 4 we need one or two salt refills per year. Not knowing Electrolux directly, typically there is red "swimmer gague" inside the salt compartment, you need to re-fill when you don't see it any more. I tend to forget and only re-fill when the washing result is not good any more. It has a reservoir for a rinse detergent - how often does one have to fill it? How can one tell when it is empty? Similar to salt. Additionally, you might need to adjust the salt and rinse quantities per washing dependent on you machine type. You notice too much detergent when the dishes have a detergent-feel after the wash and too little when the dishes have water stains after drying. The wash and dry programs seem to range from almost 3 hours to about 30 minutes. What program would one initially select for table dishes for a family of two? Typically, there are programs for "table dishes" and for "cooking implements" (hotter and longer). Then there might be additional programs "quick" (less temperature, less cleaning than the standard program) and "energy saving" (longer but less temperature than the equivalent "table dishes" and "cooking implements" programs). Modern dishwashers measure the amount of dirt in the water, so you must not pre-rinse dishes before putting them into the dishwasher (or the dishwasher takes a program that doesn't clean properly on the wrong assumption your dishes are almost clean), just remove the solids. |
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Am 29.11.2019 um 11:30 schrieb Rolf Mantel:
Am 29.11.2019 um 10:34 schrieb John B.: My wife just bought an Electrolux dish washer and it's manual leaves a great deal to be desired. Thus my very off topic questions: It has a salt reservoir for the water softener - how often does one have to re-fill it? How can one tell when it is empty? This strongly depends on how ward your water is, in areas with soft water you may take "combined" dishwater tabs including salt instead. In our "hard water" area, for a family of 4 we need one or two salt refills per year. Not knowing Electrolux directly, typically there is red "swimmer gague" inside the salt compartment, you need to re-fill when you don't see it any more. I tend to forget and only re-fill when the washing result is not good any more. You need to regularly use a kilolumens, neutral-white, BIKE lamp to shine into opened reservoir to check for remaining salt nuggets. It has a reservoir for a rinse detergent - how often does one have to fill it? How can one tell when it is empty? Similar to salt. Additionally, you might need to adjust the salt and rinse quantities per washing dependent on you machine type. You notice too much detergent when the dishes have a detergent-feel after the wash and too little when the dishes have water stains after drying. Don't use rinse detergent, the fluid is unhealthy and will slowly corrode the machine. Wife will need to remove remaining spots with a cloth, though. Soon open the washer to let steam escape after drying ends. Don't expose body parts or anti-reflective spectacle lenses to the hot steam / air. The wash and dry programs seem to range from almost 3 hours to about 30 minutes. What program would one initially select for table dishes for a family of two? Typically, there are programs for "table dishes" and for "cooking implements" (hotter and longer). Then there might be additional programs "quick" (less temperature, less cleaning than the standard program) and "energy saving" (longer but less temperature than the equivalent "table dishes" and "cooking implements" programs). Modern dishwashers measure the amount of dirt in the water, so you must not pre-rinse dishes before putting them into the dishwasher (or the dishwasher takes a program that doesn't clean properly on the wrong assumption your dishes are almost clean), just remove the solids. ACK. The moment you start rinsing manually, the no-brainer program reverts to ... wife; water; laundry detergent; kitchen sink; cloth. Bonus: Even less work if wife eats from a mildly dished steel bowl or a banana tree leaf. HTH. SCNR. |
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On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 11:30:07 +0100, Rolf Mantel
wrote: Am 29.11.2019 um 10:34 schrieb John B.: My wife just bought an Electrolux dish washer and it's manual leaves a great deal to be desired. Thus my very off topic questions: It has a salt reservoir for the water softener - how often does one have to re-fill it? How can one tell when it is empty? This strongly depends on how ward your water is, in areas with soft water you may take "combined" dishwater tabs including salt instead. In our "hard water" area, for a family of 4 we need one or two salt refills per year. Not knowing Electrolux directly, typically there is red "swimmer gague" inside the salt compartment, you need to re-fill when you don't see it any more. I tend to forget and only re-fill when the washing result is not good any more. It has a reservoir for a rinse detergent - how often does one have to fill it? How can one tell when it is empty? Similar to salt. Additionally, you might need to adjust the salt and rinse quantities per washing dependent on you machine type. You notice too much detergent when the dishes have a detergent-feel after the wash and too little when the dishes have water stains after drying. The wash and dry programs seem to range from almost 3 hours to about 30 minutes. What program would one initially select for table dishes for a family of two? Typically, there are programs for "table dishes" and for "cooking implements" (hotter and longer). Then there might be additional programs "quick" (less temperature, less cleaning than the standard program) and "energy saving" (longer but less temperature than the equivalent "table dishes" and "cooking implements" programs). There seem to be 4 programs ranging from 227 minutes to 30 minutes and a "Prewash" that takes 14 minutes. Modern dishwashers measure the amount of dirt in the water, so you must not pre-rinse dishes before putting them into the dishwasher (or the dishwasher takes a program that doesn't clean properly on the wrong assumption your dishes are almost clean), just remove the solids. Thanks for the above. I'm not the chief cook and bottle washer but the damned "manual" is in English so I've got to read it and demonstrate my expertise :-( Usually "stuff" you buy here comes with a manual or instructions in Thai but this one doesn't and dish washers certainly aren't common enough that you can just skip next door and ask how they did it. -- cheers, John B. |
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On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 18:11:41 +0700, John B. wrote:
I'm not the chief cook and bottle washer but the damned "manual" is in English so I've got to read it and demonstrate my expertise :-( English english, Chinglish or Jinglish english? SWMBO'd used her glue gun for the first time recently and the "instructions were cryptic to say the least. FWIW, we're going to be facing the same problem as John as we've just had a new dishwasher delivered and I'm part way through hooking it all up. Thankfully I can leave her to sort through the manual. Sigh for the days where everything in the houshold just had dials and buttons. Between the clothes washers, the oven, the microwave and now the dishwasher, we have library of instruction manuals for appliances. I loath apliances with screens, unless i'm being paid t look at them. Usually "stuff" you buy here comes with a manual or instructions in Thai but this one doesn't and dish washers certainly aren't common enough that you can just skip next door and ask how they did it. Sometimes you can pick them up off the internet. Try a search for the model number. |
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On 11/29/2019 1:34 AM, John B. wrote:
My wife just bought an Electrolux dish washer and it's manual leaves a great deal to be desired. Thus my very off topic questions: It has a salt reservoir for the water softener - how often does one have to re-fill it? How can one tell when it is empty? It has a reservoir for a rinse detergent - how often does one have to fill it? How can one tell when it is empty? The wash and dry programs seem to range from almost 3 hours to about 30 minutes. What program would one initially select for table dishes for a family of two? -- cheers, John B. Periodically add the liquids until the reservoirs are full. You have to experiment with program selection. On Monday I'm getting a new dishwasher delivered to a rental that I own. Glad that it doesn't have this new-fangled water-softener feature. |
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John B., 2019-11-29 10:34+0100:
My wife just bought an Electrolux dish washer and it's manual leaves a great deal to be desired. Thus my very off topic questions: It has a salt reservoir for the water softener - how often does one have to re-fill it? How can one tell when it is empty? It has a reservoir for a rinse detergent - how often does one have to fill it? How can one tell when it is empty? Most recent dishwashers have little lights somewhere on their control panel, to indicate when you have to refill the salt or rinse tank. The wash and dry programs seem to range from almost 3 hours to about 30 minutes. What program would one initially select for table dishes for a family of two? I think the longest program is the economic one: it takes time to wash, but does so with little water and power. The shorter programs are either light washing, when you have only dishes that are not very dirty or hard to whash, for instance glasses, or fast washing, which is a faster and more expensive version of the regular program, to be used when you are in a hurry and need your dish clean in a short time. -- Tanguy |
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On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 06:22:52 -0800, sms
wrote: On 11/29/2019 1:34 AM, John B. wrote: My wife just bought an Electrolux dish washer and it's manual leaves a great deal to be desired. Thus my very off topic questions: It has a salt reservoir for the water softener - how often does one have to re-fill it? How can one tell when it is empty? It has a reservoir for a rinse detergent - how often does one have to fill it? How can one tell when it is empty? The wash and dry programs seem to range from almost 3 hours to about 30 minutes. What program would one initially select for table dishes for a family of two? -- cheers, John B. Periodically add the liquids until the reservoirs are full. Yes, or course. But is there any estimate on how long toe periods are? Should one check every hour, every day, every week, etc.? You have to experiment with program selection. On Monday I'm getting a new dishwasher delivered to a rental that I own. Glad that it doesn't have this new-fangled water-softener feature. -- cheers, John B. |
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On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 16:36:56 -0000 (UTC), Tanguy Ortolo
wrote: John B., 2019-11-29 10:34+0100: My wife just bought an Electrolux dish washer and it's manual leaves a great deal to be desired. Thus my very off topic questions: It has a salt reservoir for the water softener - how often does one have to re-fill it? How can one tell when it is empty? It has a reservoir for a rinse detergent - how often does one have to fill it? How can one tell when it is empty? Most recent dishwashers have little lights somewhere on their control panel, to indicate when you have to refill the salt or rinse tank. This one does not have that facility. The wash and dry programs seem to range from almost 3 hours to about 30 minutes. What program would one initially select for table dishes for a family of two? I think the longest program is the economic one: it takes time to wash, but does so with little water and power. The shorter programs are either light washing, when you have only dishes that are not very dirty or hard to whash, for instance glasses, or fast washing, which is a faster and more expensive version of the regular program, to be used when you are in a hurry and need your dish clean in a short time. It was just that I had thought that 3 hours and 45 minutes was a long time to spend washing dishes. But you are correct that the manual shows that as the most economic program. -- cheers, John B. |
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