Beloki's crash.. how would have Clinchers performed?

"Robert Nicholson" wrote in message
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My heart goes out to Beloki it's so painful to see a main in such
distress like that.

I hope that he can make a swift and full recovery.

Could his tire have come off so easily if he had been using clinchers?
Assuming of course
he was using tubulars.


Clinchers have the advantage that they don't roll off if the rim gets hot
(and the tubular glue melts).

Tubulars have a few advantages. They are marginally lighter, but the most
important thing in a road race with long, winding descents is that if a
tubular flats, the rider can ride out a flat on a downhill turn (the tire
stays on the rim, usually). A clincher in the situation will almost surely
slide out.


Interestingly, Indurain preferred clinchers due to reason #1, but most
prefer tubulars.


BTW, if you are a Masters Fattie, ride clinchers. You won't get sewup glue
all over yourself, your living room, your bathroom and your dog trying to
mount tubs.

"Robert Nicholson" wrote in message
om...
My heart goes out to Beloki it's so painful to see a main in such
distress like that.

I hope that he can make a swift and full recovery.

Could his tire have come off so easily if he had been using clinchers?
Assuming of course
he was using tubulars.

It looked like the wheel momentarily stopped rotating right before he went
sideways. At the speeds he was doing, I doubt either type of tire would've
had an advantage.

My heart goes out to the guy. It'll be next year before he's ready to race
again. Hope he had health insurance!

I dunno Henry. I can manage to avoid getting glue all over myself, but then
I'm only 10-15# overweight. That have something to do with it?

Mike

"Mike S." mikeshaw2@coxDOTnet wrote in message
news:c5MQa.6955$Bp2.762@fed1read07...

I dunno Henry. I can manage to avoid getting glue all over myself, but
then
I'm only 10-15# overweight. That have something to do with it?



I don't get glue on myself either.

The first few times though, got it all over the place.

"warren" wrote in message
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Henry only uses one hand.



Damn, just got rid of one rbr stalker only to come up with another.


My masturbatory practices are none of your business.

In article c5MQa.6955$Bp2.762@fed1read07,
Mike S. mikeshaw2@coxDOTnet wrote:
My heart goes out to the guy. It'll be next year before he's ready to race
again. Hope he had health insurance!

I believe Spain has government provided health care.


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On 15 Jul 2003 13:32:55 GMT, (Mike Iglesias) wrote:

In article c5MQa.6955$Bp2.762@fed1read07,
Mike S. mikeshaw2@coxDOTnet wrote:
My heart goes out to the guy. It'll be next year before he's ready to race
again. Hope he had health insurance!

I believe Spain has government provided health care.

Great, now he'll be dead in six weeks from a staph infection.


--
Scott Johnson
"Always with the excuses for small legs. People like you are
why they only open the top half of caskets." -Tommy Bowen

In article ,
says...

Clinchers have the advantage that they don't roll off if the rim gets hot
(and the tubular glue melts).

Tubulars have a few advantages. They are marginally lighter, but the most
important thing in a road race with long, winding descents is that if a
tubular flats, the rider can ride out a flat on a downhill turn (the tire
stays on the rim, usually). A clincher in the situation will almost surely
slide out.

This assumes the tubular stays on the rim, which it did not for Beloki.

Interestingly, Indurain preferred clinchers due to reason #1, but most
prefer tubulars.

I can still recall the time Indurain almost lost it on a downhill, but
unclipped a foot and managed to stay upright and continue.

BTW, if you are a Masters Fattie, ride clinchers. You won't get sewup glue
all over yourself, your living room, your bathroom and your dog trying to
mount tubs.

That's me.
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"Mike S." mikeshaw2@coxDOTnet wrote in message news:c5MQa.6955$Bp2.762@fed1read07...
"Robert Nicholson" wrote in message
om...
My heart goes out to Beloki it's so painful to see a main in such
distress like that.

I hope that he can make a swift and full recovery.

Could his tire have come off so easily if he had been using clinchers?
Assuming of course
he was using tubulars.

It looked like the wheel momentarily stopped rotating right before he went
sideways. At the speeds he was doing, I doubt either type of tire would've
had an advantage.


He was using clinchers, you can see this from the TV coverage. The
inner tube exploded on the hot tarmac after he locked the wheel the
first time. Does anyone use tubulars these days?

Another disadvantage for using tubies (esp. for juniors and new Cat IV
riders) is that if you roll one and survive without a crash (a miracle
in and of itself) you are NOT eligible for a free lap (that was the
case years ago when I was racing, it might be different now, if
someone wants to verify in the USCF rules)

Another reason I like tubies is a roadside flat is easier to fix, pull
the old one off, put your spare on, inflate it and ride off (here is a
neat trick, where you would want to GENTLY heat the rims with brakes
to soften the glue and let the spare settle in)

I am a fattie burnout that is returning to riding after an extended
hiatus. I took my bike in for a tune up, the mechaninc (young guy,
early 20's) saw the wheels and said "I've never seen stuff like that
before." OK, Mavic 850 hubs, Galli "Top Pro" rims, Vittoria Nuovo Pro
tubies and a regina freewheel, am I that dated (LMAO)

"Kurgan Gringioni" wrote in message
Clinchers have the advantage that they don't roll off if the rim gets hot
(and the tubular glue melts).

Tubulars have a few advantages. They are marginally lighter, but the most
important thing in a road race with long, winding descents is that if a
tubular flats, the rider can ride out a flat on a downhill turn (the tire
stays on the rim, usually). A clincher in the situation will almost surely
slide out.



BTW, if you are a Masters Fattie, ride clinchers. You won't get sewup glue
all over yourself, your living room, your bathroom and your dog trying to
mount tubs.

In article , jjpsych
wrote:
Another reason I like tubies is a roadside flat is easier to fix, pull
the old one off, put your spare on, inflate it and ride off

And then you get to go home and spend 45 minutes patching it. 2 minutes
longer to change the clincher and you're done with it. I race on Conti
Sprinters but it's nice having clinchers to warm up on and if I get a
flat during the warmup I can repair it and still have a racing spare.


I am a fattie burnout that is returning to riding after an extended
hiatus. I took my bike in for a tune up, the mechaninc (young guy,
early 20's) saw the wheels and said "I've never seen stuff like that
before." OK, Mavic 850 hubs, Galli "Top Pro" rims, Vittoria Nuovo Pro
tubies and a regina freewheel, am I that dated (LMAO)

That is old stuff that has been improved upon, except for the hubs. Put
those on some new rims.

-WG