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Should Cyclists Pack Guns?
On Apr 19, 1:11 pm, Road Glidin' Don wrote:
On Apr 19, 9:34 am, donquijote1954 wrote: Hey, we get screamed at, doored at, Hopefully a door opener gets you some day, so we don't have to put up with your retarded cross-posts anymore. I'd consider it an act of terrorism. Bicycles should have the right to be free from opening doors as well as from invasive cars. If someone has the right ot bear arms, we should have the right to ride a bike SAFELY on the streets, ie. WE NEED BIKE LANES. |
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we are #1in gun violence
On Apr 19, 3:48 pm, (Matthew T. Russotto)
wrote: In article , Just A User wrote: Okay so that is one, but they are a lot less common than here in the U.S. Here in the gun happy U.S. we have at least a couple of mass shootings per year. A lie, of course. We are not the only one, but we are #1in gun violence... It's "as easy to buy weapons as a loaf of bread," says this article that gauges world opinion... "The U.S. is not the only country in which random acts of gun violence have erupted in seemingly everyday circumstances to destroy lives, families and communities," said Britain's Guardian newspaper. "But the U.S. is one of the few countries that seems collectively unwilling and politically incapable of doing anything serious to stop such things happening again."The slayings Monday at Virginia Tech reinforced a perception that in the U.S., it is "as easy to buy weapons as a loaf of bread," in the words of one Russian woman on a Moscow street. "Any madman can get hold of a gun," said Natalya Ivanova, a 22-year-old secretary. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...ationworld-hed |
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Should Cyclists Pack Guns?
"Thumper" wrote:
Definitely, all motorcycle riders should carry sidearm's (not bicyclists though, they're all fruitcakes). LOL! I wish they'd (bicyclists) would pay something to ride the things on the streets. Around here, they take one entire lane away from vehicle traffic and give it to bicyclists who I rarely see riding in one. They sure get a lot of free asphalt and impede the traffic flow for their selfishness. We have a few bicycle rallys in the countryside each year that causes the entire road to be closed for the day. People, mostly ranchers, cannot leave or enter their property until the bicycle event is over. One said he was going to release 200 head of cattle on the road just to make the event "more eventful(less)." Unfortunately, if we use them guns we'll go to jail. Yep. If they other party's family pushed the issue in court, their lawyers will find it "illegally carried, stored, loaded, safety off, state-line illegality, etc." You won't win (mostly 'cause you're a stinkin' biker). Kind'a makes packing one on a bike pointless. Besides, they'll just run you over or off the road anyway. By the time you get to it - if you still can - they'll be long gone. You have NO defense on a motorcycle -- unless you are in a pack of a dozen or so other bikers who still may be alive to do the subsequent dirty work for you that you cannot. Mack |
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Should Cyclists Pack Guns?
Just A User wrote:
Curtis L. Russell wrote: On 19 Apr 2007 08:34:20 -0700, donquijote1954 wrote: I guess we cyclists are too pacific for that (or just that we aren't Republicans), but in light of all that violence out there, shouldn't we rethink our strategy (everyone to himself) and get together to launch a good nonviolent campaign? I don't expect 'normal' from you, but don't you find this just a little bit tasteless considering what just happened on the Virginia Tech campus? And using 'Republicans' must be your way to compensate for not being able to actually make a complete, cogent thought on your own. I'm sure there are some reflexive 'thinkers' such as yourself that will think you made some point or another. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... Upon mentioning VA Tech, I have to put in my two cents, Cho was a wack job, but personally I think the right to bear arm part of the constitution needs to be re thought. In countries, such as the U.K. where gun control laws are very strict, they don't have incidents like those at the campus on Monday. Now as to cyclists packing heat, thats just extra weight I don't want to carry around on my rides. Ken Before Monday, the U.S. had not had an incident like that. The U.K. also has surviellance cameras every 15 feet. Would you be willing to live in an Orwellian world for a false sense of security? I personally figure if some crazy wacko nutjob wants to go on a killing spree, he'll find a way, with, or without a gun, and I'ld just as soon improve my odds by having one to stop him. Now that I've poked at the ant bed a little bit, i'm gonna go have a nap. |
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On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:35:39 -0700, "M. MacDonald"
wrote: "Thumper" wrote: Definitely, all motorcycle riders should carry sidearm's (not bicyclists though, they're all fruitcakes). LOL! I wish they'd (bicyclists) would pay something to ride the things on the streets. Around here, they take one entire lane away from vehicle traffic and give it to bicyclists who I rarely see riding in one. They sure get a lot of free asphalt and impede the traffic flow for their selfishness. We have a few bicycle rallys in the countryside each year that causes the entire road to be closed for the day. People, mostly ranchers, cannot leave or enter their property until the bicycle event is over. One said he was going to release 200 head of cattle on the road just to make the event "more eventful(less)." Of he could let the cows hang out on the road overnight the night before .... -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
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Should Cyclists Pack Guns?
On Apr 19, 8:34 am, donquijote1954
wrote: Hey, we get screamed at, doored at, spitted upon, pushed around and even killed, isn't it time we enjoy the same benefits as other Americans? When is a cyclist going into a rage and mow down all those careless SUV drivers who make us feel worthless? [snip] SpikeBike did this *years* ago. Weren't you paying attention? http://members.aol.com/clubnbc/spike_1.htm -- Michael |
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we are #1in gun violence
On 19 Apr 2007 13:33:35 -0700, donquijote1954
wrote: On Apr 19, 3:48 pm, (Matthew T. Russotto) wrote: In article , Just A User wrote: Okay so that is one, but they are a lot less common than here in the U.S. Here in the gun happy U.S. we have at least a couple of mass shootings per year. A lie, of course. We are not the only one, but we are #1in gun violence... It's "as easy to buy weapons as a loaf of bread," says this article that gauges world opinion... Well, the articel is full of ****, as is 'world opinion', including the nonexistent 'world opinion' cited by the anti-gun crowd. Here's a news flash for you - you can find a 'world opinion' for anything, on any side of any subject. "The U.S. is not the only country in which random acts of gun violence have erupted in seemingly everyday circumstances to destroy lives, families and communities," said Britain's Guardian newspaper. "But the Left wing lunatic pseudo-news rag. U.S. is one of the few countries that seems collectively unwilling and politically incapable of doing anything serious to stop such things happening again."The slayings Monday at Virginia Tech reinforced a perception that in the U.S., it is "as easy to buy weapons as a loaf of bread," in the words of one Russian woman on a Moscow street. "Any Well, THAT settles it ! If some random whore walking the street in Moscow says 'It's like such and such in America', it must be true ! madman can get hold of a gun," said Natalya Ivanova, a 22-year-old secretary. As they can, and as easily, in Russia. -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
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In article . com,
donquijote1954 writes: Hey, we get screamed at, doored at, spitted upon, pushed around and even killed, isn't it time we enjoy the same benefits as other Americans? When is a cyclist going into a rage and mow down all those careless SUV drivers who make us feel worthless? I think you'll find your feelings of worthlessness are rooted within. having a gun won't fix that, any more than will driving a motor vehicle, getting drunk, or any combination of the above. Imagine this scenario: You get hit and as you roll down the pavement you draw and... 1) drop the gun, causing it to uncontrolledly discharge 2) accidentally shoot an innocent bystander 3) inflict revenge that greatly exceeds the wrong/slight done to you 4) shoot your eye out 5) lose the gun in some bushes, where some 7 year old kid will later find it I guess we cyclists are too pacific for that (or just that we aren't Republicans), but in light of all that violence out there, shouldn't we rethink our strategy (everyone to himself) and get together to launch a good nonviolent campaign? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^ There's already a bunch of them. They just don't have your name on them (thank Goodness.) -- Nothing is safe from me. Above address is just a spam midden. I'm really at: tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca |
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Should Cyclists Pack Guns?
On Apr 19, 2:22 pm, donquijote1954
wrote: On Apr 19, 1:11 pm, Road Glidin' Don wrote: On Apr 19, 9:34 am, donquijote1954 wrote: Hey, we get screamed at, doored at, Hopefully a door opener gets you some day, so we don't have to put up with your retarded cross-posts anymore. I'd consider it an act of terrorism. Bicycles should have the right to be free from opening doors as well as from invasive cars. If someone has the right ot bear arms, we should have the right to ride a bike SAFELY on the streets, ie. WE NEED BIKE LANES. You've got a newsgroup for bicycles which you don't stay in. No reason to suppose, if you had bike lanes, you'd stay in them either. You've got a lot to learn about responsible use and sharing before you start preaching to others, retard. |
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Should Cyclists Pack Guns?
On Apr 19, 9:03 am, wrote:
On 19 Apr 2007 08:34:20 -0700, donquijote1954 Excellent ! He supports the Constitution and fundamental rights... Just not civil liberties. Question: Do you support the right for women to vote? The founding fathers didn't. But we changed THAT to our liking, didn't we? |
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